USA is one of very few nations where the poor people are fat

[Ray From Cleveland]

20 trillion dollars in debt.........

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

Good. If our debt climbs under Trump, we'll just blame DumBama for it. That's how it works.......right?

If Obama started a World depression, dingbat. You are just unbelievable. Stick to driving truck and bitching about your pothead tenants...

And keep collecting your welfare and stay on USMB all day long.

I'm still retired not on welfare thank you very much you seem to be here all the time too so... LOL

Check my posts genius. I only post before and after work, and sometimes when I'm waiting in line to get unloaded at a dock. And those posts come from my cell phone.

 

[bgrouse]

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

So do you want more wealthy people in your state or less? Do you want more wealthy people in your city or less?

When Lebron James left Cleveland, many speculated it was because we do have a higher state tax on the wealthy. He came back, but look at what we lost while he was gone.

Lower income people pay higher state taxes? Well they can leave anytime they want. In fact we'll just ship them to your state.

You're too fixated on "higher income" and "lower income." The middle class and lower class are those who do the work. Some rich kid who inherited a bunch of money doesn't do anything. A rich man's money wouldn't mean anything without someone to provide those goods and services (the working middle class and poor). Money is used to help the economy move along and help allocated resources. Lazy rich people who inherited the money are just a side-effect. Technically, they're worthless, but the government respects the money system (even if those deadbeats benefit unfairly) to keep the economy working since money could lose value if the government makes it a habit of taking it from people it deems worthless (even if in this case it would be correct).

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

So do you want more wealthy people in your state or less? Do you want more wealthy people in your city or less?

When Lebron James left Cleveland, many speculated it was because we do have a higher state tax on the wealthy. He came back, but look at what we lost while he was gone.

Lower income people pay higher state taxes? Well they can leave anytime they want. In fact we'll just ship them to your state.

You're too fixated on "higher income" and "lower income." The middle class and lower class are those who do the work. Some rich kid who inherited a bunch of money doesn't do anything. A rich man's money wouldn't mean anything without someone to provide those goods and services (the working middle class and poor). Money is used to help the economy move along and help allocated resources. Lazy rich people who inherited the money are just a side-effect. Technically, they're worthless, but the government respects the money system (even if those deadbeats benefit unfairly) to keep the economy working since money could lose value if the government makes it a habit of taking it from people it deems worthless (even if in this case it would be correct).

If somebody gets money legally, WTF would you care how they got it? Why should those people be treated any differently than those who worked for their money?

Do you think lottery winners should be treated any differently? They didn't work for their money either. They just gambled a couple of bucks and got lucky. Or what about those who make out in casinos or at the race tracks?

The people who "do the work" get paid for the work they do. The people who inherit a company and continue to provide jobs and taxation are the people who give them the work.

Nobody is paid by how hard they physically work. People are paid by how much profit their work creates, their talents, their experience, and their market worth.

The Decline of Inherited Money

 

[bgrouse]

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

So do you want more wealthy people in your state or less? Do you want more wealthy people in your city or less?

When Lebron James left Cleveland, many speculated it was because we do have a higher state tax on the wealthy. He came back, but look at what we lost while he was gone.

Lower income people pay higher state taxes? Well they can leave anytime they want. In fact we'll just ship them to your state.

You're too fixated on "higher income" and "lower income." The middle class and lower class are those who do the work. Some rich kid who inherited a bunch of money doesn't do anything. A rich man's money wouldn't mean anything without someone to provide those goods and services (the working middle class and poor). Money is used to help the economy move along and help allocated resources. Lazy rich people who inherited the money are just a side-effect. Technically, they're worthless, but the government respects the money system (even if those deadbeats benefit unfairly) to keep the economy working since money could lose value if the government makes it a habit of taking it from people it deems worthless (even if in this case it would be correct).

If somebody gets money legally, WTF would you care how they got it? Why should those people be treated any differently than those who worked for their money?

Do you think lottery winners should be treated any differently? They didn't work for their money either. They just gambled a couple of bucks and got lucky. Or what about those who make out in casinos or at the race tracks?

The people who "do the work" get paid for the work they do. The people who inherit a company and continue to provide jobs and taxation are the people who give them the work.

Nobody is paid by how hard they physically work. People are paid by how much profit their work creates, their talents, their experience, and their market worth.

The Decline of Inherited Money

Lazy rich layabouts/rich kids aren't rich because they have talent or experience.

All I'm saying is you should stop blindly worshiping the rich and understand what they are.

 

[francoHFW]

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

Good. If our debt climbs under Trump, we'll just blame DumBama for it. That's how it works.......right?

If Obama started a World depression, dingbat. You are just unbelievable. Stick to driving truck and bitching about your pothead tenants...

And keep collecting your welfare and stay on USMB all day long.

I'm still retired not on welfare thank you very much you seem to be here all the time too so... LOL

Check my posts genius. I only post before and after work, and sometimes when I'm waiting in line to get unloaded at a dock. And those posts come from my cell phone.

Congratulations you young punk dupe LOL.

 

[francoHFW]

I don't recall Trump saying our taxes are the highest in the world. Were only discussing business taxes here, not the overall tax rate. Furthermore, your chart doesn't include state and local taxes. Our tax rate is much closer to 50% when you include those. Denmark has a tax rate of 60%, so I think your chart is bullshit. Given the leftwing organization that publishes it, that's doubly so.

America has the highest corporate tax rate. Franco is easily confused and works hard to confuse others with his lies about taxes and the fact that the topic is Federal Income Taxes.

Yes but our effective tax rates is down below most of their countries. Our effective tax rate companies actually pay is 12 13% so idiotic you won't be happy until we're a Banana Republic and we're not far off now thanks to you morons...

 

[francoHFW]

FDR and Wilson made us rich? They were looters who robbed us. They didn't produce a single thing. They did not increase the productivity of the American economy by one dollar. In fact, they caused staggering losses to our economy. Men like Henry Ford, JJ Hill, Jonh D. Rockefeller and Thomas Edison made us rich.

Demand comes from people with jobs. The people you call "robber barrons" provide those jobs.

Read the good old days, they were terrible... You have absolutely no clue what life was like for the great majority...

All the good things that makes life bearable we got from Democrats... Social Security unemployment disability retirement etc etc Health Care daycare Medicare Medicaid civil rights

20 trillion dollars in debt.........

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

And I don't believe anyone here is lying, even you total dupes who are amazingly full of s***. The only people lying politicians and pundits. What a horror and laughing stock you are.

 

[Thinker101]

Read the good old days, they were terrible... You have absolutely no clue what life was like for the great majority...

All the good things that makes life bearable we got from Democrats... Social Security unemployment disability retirement etc etc Health Care daycare Medicare Medicaid civil rights

20 trillion dollars in debt.........

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

And I don't believe anyone here is lying, even you total dupes who are amazingly full of s***. The only people lying politicians and pundits. What a horror and laughing stock you are.

Good news, you qualify for group number 2.

 

[koshergrl]

Late to the party but you know... fattening food is cheaper

Nutritious, low calorie, good quality food is more expensive.

That's what all comes to

Meat and cabbage. Pork and cabbage is cheaper than cheap processed food. .and goes further. I can get ten lbs of pork for ten bucks. A head of cabbage is 1.50. That and eggs and not much else will get a family of 4+ through 3 days. I quit eating or buying processed foods some months ago. We eat better now and spend much less.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

All over the world people starve to death. They die of malnutrition. Their bones get soft. Their bellies swell. Not in the United States where the cause of death is from obesity related illness.

If that isn't bad enough we are told to hate the wealthy who are actually persons to emulate and idolize. You will never get anywhere having an obese homeless person as a role model. Okay, okay, I agree if the rich would stop feeding these fatties maybe they would be motivated.

 

[ChrisL]

All over the world people starve to death. They die of malnutrition. Their bones get soft. Their bellies swell. Not in the United States where the cause of death is from obesity related illness.

If that isn't bad enough we are told to hate the wealthy who are actually persons to emulate and idolize. You will never get anywhere having an obese homeless person as a role model. Okay, okay, I agree if the rich would stop feeding these fatties maybe they would be motivated.

Yes, because Paris Hilton is very admirable.

 

[bgrouse]

All over the world people starve to death. They die of malnutrition. Their bones get soft. Their bellies swell. Not in the United States where the cause of death is from obesity related illness.

If that isn't bad enough we are told to hate the wealthy who are actually persons to emulate and idolize. You will never get anywhere having an obese homeless person as a role model. Okay, okay, I agree if the rich would stop feeding these fatties maybe they would be motivated.

You won't get anywhere with a rich kid deadbeat as your role model either.

 

[ChrisL]

I used to think that poor people were obese because they couldn't afford healthy food, but I'm pretty sure a bag of carrots or a head of lettuce is cheaper than a box of Twinkies.

 

[Snouter]

I might go ahead and get a FIVE GUYS double cheeseburger with bacon with all the toppings and an order of fries tomorrow. I wish they offered milk shakes though. Just soda or water to show they do not use a freezer.

 

[bripat9643]

So you are a robber baron? LOL it was those filthy politicians that made the middle class rich and even the working class... No more. And once again our economic problem is no demand because you ruined the consumer class... How to Pander to the greedy idiot mega-rich GOP.

FDR and Wilson made us rich? They were looters who robbed us. They didn't produce a single thing. They did not increase the productivity of the American economy by one dollar. In fact, they caused staggering losses to our economy. Men like Henry Ford, JJ Hill, Jonh D. Rockefeller and Thomas Edison made us rich.

Demand comes from people with jobs. The people you call "robber barrons" provide those jobs.

Read the good old days, they were terrible... You have absolutely no clue what life was like for the great majority...

All the good things that makes life bearable we got from Democrats... Social Security unemployment disability retirement etc etc Health Care daycare Medicare Medicaid civil rights

20 trillion dollars in debt.........

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

You're forgetting the trillion dollar "stimulus" that Obama signed. The TARP bailout actually returned a profit, so you can't blame the Obama deficits on that. You also can't blame the recession since Bush also had a recession due to 9/11 to deal with. Reagan had a recession caused by Carter to deal with.

Douche bag snowflakes always have a million excuses as to why their guy isn't responsible for the deficits under his administration.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't recall Trump saying our taxes are the highest in the world. Were only discussing business taxes here, not the overall tax rate. Furthermore, your chart doesn't include state and local taxes. Our tax rate is much closer to 50% when you include those. Denmark has a tax rate of 60%, so I think your chart is bullshit. Given the leftwing organization that publishes it, that's doubly so.

America has the highest corporate tax rate. Franco is easily confused and works hard to confuse others with his lies about taxes and the fact that the topic is Federal Income Taxes.

Yes but our effective tax rates is down below most of their countries. Our effective tax rate companies actually pay is 12 13% so idiotic you won't be happy until we're a Banana Republic and we're not far off now thanks to you morons...

What is the effective tax rate in other countries? Your chart doesn't show that.

 

[Slyhunter]

I used to think that poor people were obese because they couldn't afford healthy food, but I'm pretty sure a bag of carrots or a head of lettuce is cheaper than a box of Twinkies.

Need teeth to eat the carrots.
Spaghetti is a dollar a pound. We eat a lot of pasta. Bread and cake is free from the food pantry.

 

[francoHFW]

FDR and Wilson made us rich? They were looters who robbed us. They didn't produce a single thing. They did not increase the productivity of the American economy by one dollar. In fact, they caused staggering losses to our economy. Men like Henry Ford, JJ Hill, Jonh D. Rockefeller and Thomas Edison made us rich.

Demand comes from people with jobs. The people you call "robber barrons" provide those jobs.

Read the good old days, they were terrible... You have absolutely no clue what life was like for the great majority...

All the good things that makes life bearable we got from Democrats... Social Security unemployment disability retirement etc etc Health Care daycare Medicare Medicaid civil rights

20 trillion dollars in debt.........

90% of the debt before Obama was from Reagan and the bushes, Obama's is 80 to 90% bailouts and aid for the victims of bushes corrupt depression, dingbat. He changed nothing about welfare and unemployment, it was just a huge depression d u h, super dupe.

You're forgetting the trillion dollar "stimulus" that Obama signed. The TARP bailout actually returned a profit, so you can't blame the Obama deficits on that. You also can't blame the recession since Bush also had a recession due to 9/11 to deal with. Reagan had a recession caused by Carter to deal with.

Douche bag snowflakes always have a million excuses as to why their guy isn't responsible for the deficits under his administration.

5 trillion of Obama's at least were due to extra unemployment and Welfare for the many millions of victims... Still hundred billion a year easily... You dupes live in a dream world...

 

[ScienceRocks]

Do you right wing nuts ever use your fucking brains?

Maybe the answer is simple and it has to do with the cost of high carbed foods being cheaper compared to low carbed foods. Of course, you won't listen or care as you just love to bash poor people.

 

[francoHFW]

Tarp all paid back you're joking, dupe. A gigantic mess that half the world is still in.