USA Should Divide Into 2 Separate Nations

[CrusaderFrank]

Would we partition the USA equally by states, 28.5 each?

 

[alang1216]

The city dwellers will never stand for the rural people chasing them off public lands that they have gone to so much trouble to steal and destroy.

The urban areas of the United States for the 2010 Census contain 249,253,271 people, representing 80.7% of the population, and rural areas contain 59,492,276 people, or 19.3% of the population. If all the rural separatists would be satisfied with moving to Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona maybe we could work something out.

 

[2aguy]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

The left wing nation would never leave the Right wing nation alone....

Can't you just go back on hiatus?

Hiatus...are you talking to me....?

 

[Onyx]

OFF TOPIC! Post on topic or get out of the thread.

A better solution is never off topic.

 

[Onyx]

Maybe you need to go to a country where this is truly happening so you can adjust your attitude. I'm not a Rah-Rah USA guy, but this is ignorant.

It is truly happening here, and it is the easiest argument to make when your head is not stuck in a propaganda machine.

What gives you permission to do anything? What takes from your labor? What puts you down for disobedience?

I'll let you rant some bullshit about the US being a state that represents the will of the people now.

 

[Freewill]

It wouldn't work. the liberal half would turn into liberal crap holes and then the liberals would demand to be let in the conservative side. It would be called their right.

 

[owebo]

It wouldn't work. the liberal half would turn into liberal crap holes and then the liberals would demand to be let in the conservative side. It would be called their right.

We could put a wall around California....

 

[Norman]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a
distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

So you are basically saying, let's divide the parasites and the producers into different nations.

And you think the parasites are going to agree? You must be nuts...

 

[bripat9643]

What happens to the Liberal states when they collapse like Venezuela and are conquered by Mexican drug gangs?

We'll have to build a wall to keep the Blue state aliens out.

 

[Kondor3]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

No need.

We already know what happens when LibTards gain and maintain control over a period of decades.

We already have Common Sense-Free Zones.

We call them Democratically Controlled Inner Cities.

a.k.a. Neo-Plantations.

 

[bripat9643]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a
distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

So you are basically saying, let's divide the parasites and the producers into different nations.

And you think the parasites are going to agree? You must be nuts...

Of course they won't. That's the whole point of Hillary's campaign slogan "we're stronger together." What it really means is that the parasites are stronger when they can suck off the productive members of society.

 

[bripat9643]

Blue states: liberal, educated, money producing states verses

Red States Are Welfare Queens

'Red State Socialism' graphic says GOP-leaning states get lion's share of federal dollars

Corporations now located in blue states will flee across borders into red states for the low corporate tax rates (like Donald Trump's current propose 15%) leaving blue states an economic train wreck.

PS - liberals are MISeducated, and ignoramuses with regard to the REAL WORLD. I give quizzes on Islamization, immigration, and race relations. They flunk every time.

Don't worry, the blue states will improve their economy by increasing taxes on corporations and creating lot of freeby boondoggle benefit programs

 

[bripat9643]

The left wing nation would never leave the Right wing nation alone....

Giving the right wing nation (UCSA) cause to take action against the left (ULSA). And since the UCSA woul dhave all the military leaders and expertise, the left being inept at military affairs, this would leave the ULSA with a cure - a good ass-kicking.

The left is undefeated in World Wars. The right got its ass kicked by Iraqi insurgents. Sorry, try again.

The left won Korea and Vietnam?

 

[presonorek]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

This is a terrible idea. It didn't work well for Pakistan and India at all. There is a reason we are called the United States of America. We are united. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Don't separate the country. It's a terrible idea.

We'd still hate each other just the same but we could foster our hatred for the other side and let it flourish. You'd also be a nation with bombs and weapons of all sorts. You are right next door to each other so it would be very easy to have a massive nuclear war. Sounds dumb as junk.

 

[Toronado3800]

What existing countries would each of these two indelendant Americas be closest to?

Same they are now. Why do you ask ?

No silly, simple question. If you divide the country up into your dream land and Hillary's dream land like you propose what would each look like?

Would Hillary's America 2 look like England essentially? France? Where?

How about America 1. Is it Trump's vision or W Bush's? What country would it resemble?

 

[SwimExpert]

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a nation is. OK. Let's do that.

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edition).

The problem with us in the USA is that that NO, we are NOT a distinctive culture, and only conservatives see us as having a distinctive single language in common. Liberals have created voting ballots that have almost 2 dozen different languages. They also have designed programs to be bi-lingual, or in more languages than just that.

But while language is generally the most determining cultural factor in shaping a nation, some other aspects of culture play a part too. These could be food, music, recreational activities, etc., and not to be overlooked is politics. Clearly, conservatives and liberals are living in 2 different worlds. There is very little agreement.

Why then should these 2 very disparate groups constantly engage in a struggle to co-exist with one another, as a single national entity ? We really shouldn't. I suggest that the USA break into 2 separate nations. One guided by liberal policies, and one by conservative culture.

And if liberals, in THEIR nation, want to impose all the harms of ceaseless immigration upon themselves, they can have at it. If they want to allow their economy to be pillaged for tens of Billion$$/year, let them do that. If they want to have birthright citizenship in THEIR nation, and allow Mexico et al to rip their tax treasuries for tens of Billions$$ more with the anchor baby racket and false documentation, have a ball, liberals.

If liberals want to endanger themselves with gun-free zones, giving terrorists a clear path to massacring them, that would be THEIR choice. If liberals choose to align themselves with Muslim Brotherhood members (like Obama and Hillary Clinton do), only THEY will suffer the consequences of that. And if they want to go around crowing about racial discrimination (while racially discriminating against Whites in Affirmative Action), only THEIR White people will suffer from that racism, not conservative Whites.

Unfortunately, even this reform cannot undo the damage that has been inflicted upon ALL of us by Hillary Clinton's reckless exposure of top secret US SAPs to the entire world, but at least we Conservatives could be assured that we won't have a treacherous nutjob like her in power over us, doing more harm to OUR nation.

And if liberals wish to have a high corporate tax rate and annihilate businesses with excessive regulation, that will be THEIR problem when those businesses pack up and leave (and probably move to OUR nation, the United Conservative States of America)

And if liberals want to allow criminals to run rampant over them, with light sentencing, early release from prisons, no stop & frisk, and the infamous > "give them space to destroy" mind-boggling statement of Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings, with stand down orders to the police, the resulting riots will be only THEIR problem, no one else's.

Let's have the UCSA, and the ULSA, and do it ASAP..

You rebel fucks already got your asses kicked once for this. Don't make us do it again.

 

[Toronado3800]

The left wing nation would never leave the Right wing nation alone....

Giving the right wing nation (UCSA) cause to take action against the left (ULSA). And since the UCSA woul dhave all the military leaders and expertise, the left being inept at military affairs, this would leave the ULSA with a cure - a good ass-kicking.

The left is undefeated in World Wars. The right got its ass kicked by Iraqi insurgents. Sorry, try again.

The left won Korea and Vietnam?

I just don't know if either side would claim they did better in either there.

 

[BluesLegend]

That would last about 6 months and when the left states run out of food they would come begging us on their knees for our garbage scraps.

 

[Flash]

The stupid and greedy Liberals have screwed up this country to point where it can't be fixed, even at the ballot box. We have become a welfare state shithole.

Democracies always seem to get to this point when 51% of the population finds out they can use the force of the government to steal from the other 49%.

The very fact that this asshole Obama was elected and win or lose this Left Wing asshole Crooked Hillary will get at least 50 million votes is a great indication that this country ain't worth shit any more.

Over 150 years ago we understood that this nation should be separated from the greedy Liberals but we lost that fight. Hopefully we won't lose the next one.

 

[BluesLegend]

The stupid and greedy Liberals have screwed up this country to point where it can't be fixed, even at the ballot box. We have become a welfare state shithole.

Democracies always seem to get to this point when 51% of the population finds out they can use the force of the government to steal from the other 49%.

The very fact that this asshole Obama was elected and win or lose this Left Wing asshole Crooked Hillary will get at least 50 million votes is a great indication that this country ain't worth shit any more.

Over 150 years ago we understood that this nation should be separated from the greedy Liberals but we lost that fight. Hopefully we won't lose the next one.

When it goes belly up conservatives will take over and the left can work on prison farms.