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Do whites who do all this whining about racial preferences not understand that white is a race and that whites get the most preferences?
No one answered your thread. We are done as a nation if this is not addressed. And it most likely will not be.true
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Ohpleasejustquit,Do whites who do all this whining about racial preferences not understand that white is a race and that whites get the most preferences?
Whites are 60 percent of the population, 77 percent of the workforce, and 80 percent of the management. Most of that management are white men who are 36 percent of the population. Asking dumb questions about Obama or Elizabeth Warren does not change this reality.If whites get the most preferences, why didn't B. Hussein O. point out his white background when he went to college and ran for office?
Why did Pocahontas say she was a squaw, instead of a rich white Margaret Drysdale-type broad from Boston (which she was)?
Those folks are demagogues but they aren't stupid. They knew there was an advantage to claiming POC standing.
Again, that black kid faced the white racism you didn't. The finger was on the scale against them.that black kid probably got a better education and more opportunities than I did, so why should the government put it's finger on the scale for them?
Again, that black kid faced the white racism you didn't. The finger was on the scale against them.
I knew someone with one black great-grandfather and applied to a decent, although not top school, and was rejected. She applied again to a much more competitive school, this time claiming she was bI-racial, and was welcomed in with open arms.If whites get the most preferences, why didn't B. Hussein O. point out his white background when he went to college and ran for office?
Why did Pocahontas say she was a squaw, instead of a rich white Margaret Drysdale-type broad from Boston (which she was)?
Those folks are demagogues but they aren't stupid. They knew there was an advantage to claiming POC standing.
1) you replied to yourselfOhpleasejustquit,
I hate to state the obvious but white is a race and whites do get hired by other whites only because of race.
If Affirmative Action is no longer acceptable, then legacy admissions should not be acceptable either. No points for your parents graduating from that school.The legal effort was brought to the high court by the conservative group Students for Fair Admissions, which argues that nearly four decades of affirmative action precedent have disproportionately harmed Asian American applicants and that institutions should amend their policies to adopt "race-neutral" standards. The justices will hear two cases Monday over admissions policies at the public University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the private Harvard University .
Edward Blum, the 70-year-old head at SFFA and a longtime critic of affirmative action, said the group represents nearly 20,000 students who are asking the high court to overturn its decision in Grutter v. Bollinger, which affirmed the partial use of race in admissions at the University of Michigan in a 5-4 opinion in 2003, so long as it didn't rely on race as a sole deciding factor.
Maya Wiley, the president and CEO of the LCEF, told the Washington Examiner. “One thing is clear — the future of our multiracial democracy is at stake. The civil rights community is united because we know that we are stronger together, even in the face of the so-called Students for Fair Admissions’
Affirmative action on the line as Supreme Court hears Harvard and UNC admissions case
Colleges across the United States are preparing for a future without race-based admissions policies as the Supreme Court will soon decide whether to end decades of affirmative action precedent.www.washingtonexaminer.com
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The Left doesn't actually believe in Civil Rights.
They demand racial discrimination in Education and in Employment.
They need to start accepting that everyone has the same Civil Rights.
Where is their "inclusion and equity" in Civil Rights?
They undermine the whole premise of their existence.
Preference by race is illegal under the constitution, preference by economic or social status isn't. Legacy admissions, like sports scholarships, are designed to raise money for the operation of the college. There is nothing illegal about that. If you want to end money having advantages, you need to change your name to Don Quixote and start attacking windmills with your noble steed Dulcinea and lance.If Affirmative Action is no longer acceptable, then legacy admissions should not be acceptable either. No points for your parents graduating from that school.
Also, these wealthy people donate a couple million to a school, knowing that will pay their kid's way into said school. No more of that either.
I've never seen anything in the Constitution concerning college admissions. Can you point out where it is in the Constitution?Preference by race is illegal under the constitution, preference by economic or social status isn't. Legacy admissions, like sports scholarships, are designed to raise money for the operation of the college. There is nothing illegal about that. If you want to end money having advantages, you need to change your name to Don Quixote and start attacking windmills with your noble steed Dulcinea and lance.
He can't because it's not there.I've never seen anything in the Constitution concerning college admissions. Can you point out where it is in the Constitution?
Not necessarily. You have never been black so you need to stop pretending that because a black family might have a little more money than a white one that things which happen for whites with money do so for blacks similarly. That black kid might be stuck in a suburban majoriy white school system where they face racism from other students, teachers and administrators which will impact the quality of that kids education. You would not face that.Yet he had more wealth than me, more opportunity than me, and probably didn't face a shred of actual racism unless we are talking about someone growing up in the 60's or 70's, i.e. the parents that are now a doctor and a lawyer and were able to overcome all that.
Why should I pay for the sins of the past in perpetuity?
All institutional racism in government and most private industry has been abolished. The only people keeping shreds of it alive are people like you.
Not necessarily. You have never been black so you need to stop pretending that because a black family might have a little more money than a white one that things which happen for whites with money do so for blacks similarly. That black kid might be stuck in a suburban majoriy white school system where they face racism from other students, teachers and administrators which will impact the quality of that kids education. You would not face that.
AA is not institutional racism. Whites are a race and whites get the majority of admissions beased on race because they are the majority racial group. It's time whites stopped pretending they aren't a race but everyone else is.
The current case is about whether colleges can discriminate according to RACE by developing standards specifically designed to advantage one race and disadvantage another.If Affirmative Action is no longer acceptable, then legacy admissions should not be acceptable either. No points for your parents graduating from that school.
Also, these wealthy people donate a couple million to a school, knowing that will pay their kid's way into said school. No more of that either.
If Affirmative Action is no longer acceptable, then legacy admissions should not be acceptable either. No points for your parents graduating from that school.
Also, these wealthy people donate a couple million to a school, knowing that will pay their kid's way into said school. No more of that either.
14th Amendment, Section One: "...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."I've never seen anything in the Constitution concerning college admissions. Can you point out where it is in the Constitution?
I just did. College admission standards have to be held to the same standard as other procedures and laws.He can't because it's not there.
LOL! That is complete, utter hogwash.14th Amendment, Section One: "...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
"In Shelley v. Kraemer (1948), the Court showed increased willingness to find racial discrimination illegal. The Shelley case concerned a privately made contract that prohibited "people of the Negro or Mongolian race" from living on a particular piece of land."
Affirmative action is a clear violation of that clause making some races more equal than others. A very liberal SCOTUS carved out an exception for college admissions, but that is going to be overruled by the current strict constitutionalist court.
