Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[MacTheKnife]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

 

[jc456]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

Not true at all.

Uh huh. 9-1-1 audio is out.

Listen if you dare:

Ahmaud Arbery killing: man called 911 to report 'black male running' prior to shooting

Recordings of 911 calls obtained by the Guardian provide details on the moments before a man was shot while jogging in Georgia

www.google.com

Oh oh, and if you bothered to read the article it stated that when asked by the operator if a crime was being committed the response was garbled, so let be clear the man killed was known to run in the area and the two men that chased him did not even tell the operator if a crime was committed.

Also calling 911 is not evidence of a crime being committed and it is them calling claiming one was being done and had lived in that region it is possible that guy was killed for being black.

So your link does not help you and you should have read the article because the caller never said what was being done.

Also why drive past the guy and wait for him to come up the road?

Bet the true crime is the guy was shagging a daughter of the two guys...

More nonsense. Pathetic There does not have to be a crime to be a suspect....being a suspect merely means one is suspected of comitting a crime.....they they followed him so they could tell the police where he was....nothing illegal about anthing they did...but one has to have some knowledge of the law to understand that....too many on here lack even a basic understanding of the law....especially the law regarding self defense.

Except you excluded the part where their lawyer argued they were executing a citizens arrest. Under Georgia law this did not qualify as a citizens arrest. Talk about understanding the law. Go read up on it.

we will see right? When were you swore in as judge to make that ruling?

 

[Ame®icano]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "fuck off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. Fuck you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

Das rite! You don't want help, until you need help. Than you demand it, or you'll cry racism.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

Why did these dudes feel it necessary to approach a guy on the street without contacting the police first? How stupid.

They can say that they feared for their lives all day long, but they are the people brandishing firearms. Who was or should have been in fear?

At the same time, this guy was stupid to try and take the shotgun away from the driver. I understand wanting to disarm somebody if you honestly believe they will use it on you, but he was outnumbered and unarmed. He may have been better off just continuing to run. They may have eventually killed him if he ran away, but now he is dead AND there is video showing that him attacking and punching the guy with the shotgun. He provided them with a possible defense.

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The thing is we do not know what was being said between the two, so there stuff we may never no why he went for the firearm...

There was a 911 call but it does not exonerate the two guys at all and in fact when asked if a crime was committed the caller said no.

The story seem they said he look like someone robbing the area, and if so it still was not their job to chase him down and wait for him.

 

[jc456]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

Why did these dudes feel it necessary to approach a guy on the street without contacting the police first? How stupid.

They can say that they feared for their lives all day long, but they are the people brandishing firearms. Who was or should have been in fear?

At the same time, this guy was stupid to try and take the shotgun away from the driver. I understand wanting to disarm somebody if you honestly believe they will use it on you, but he was outnumbered and unarmed. He may have been better off just continuing to run. They may have eventually killed him if he ran away, but now he is dead AND there is video showing that him attacking and punching the guy with the shotgun. He provided them with a possible defense.

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they did contact the police first. they didn't want the dude to leave. they want the police to interrogate him.

 

[colfax_m]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

 

[jc456]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

Why did these dudes feel it necessary to approach a guy on the street without contacting the police first? How stupid.

They can say that they feared for their lives all day long, but they are the people brandishing firearms. Who was or should have been in fear?

At the same time, this guy was stupid to try and take the shotgun away from the driver. I understand wanting to disarm somebody if you honestly believe they will use it on you, but he was outnumbered and unarmed. He may have been better off just continuing to run. They may have eventually killed him if he ran away, but now he is dead AND there is video showing that him attacking and punching the guy with the shotgun. He provided them with a possible defense.

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The thing is we do not know what was being said between the two, so there stuff we may never no why he went for the firearm...

There was a 911 call but it does not exonerate the two guys at all and in fact when asked if a crime was committed the caller said no.

The story seem they said he look like someone robbing the area, and if so it still was not their job to chase him down and wait for him.

again, their intentions were to hold him until the police arrived. he didn't want that. That's very obvious. damn, they called the police, seems intentions were for the police to question him, not shoot him. Why else would they have contacted the police? let's hear your explanation.

 

[jc456]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

you have no clue as to how a chase happened or not. you aren't fking god dude. I keep telling you that.

 

[colfax_m]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

you have no clue as to how a chase happened or not. you aren't fking god dude. I keep telling you that.

The suspects already admitted to police that they were chasing him. It's in the police report. Read it.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

He appears to be an accomplice/co-conspirator, so he may have committed a crime.

Thats total nonsense

 

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

you have no clue as to how a chase happened or not. you aren't fking god dude. I keep telling you that.

The suspects already admitted to police that they were chasing him. It's in the police report. Read it.

ok, you have no idea the status of any weapon. unless of course you're still god. Again, if you had a fking brain, if their intentions were to shoot the kid, #1. wouldn't call the police, #2. They would have just shot him while they were moving in the truck. fk I can't stand your kind of stupid.

 

[L.K.Eder]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

can police exonerate someone? cool

 

[jc456]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

can police exonerate someone? cool

in some scenarios yes

 

[Faun]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

The video you posted was a black man running towards a white truck and then attacking somebody with a gun. Do you have this video of what you’re saying?

I think your white hood is obscuring your view

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

well that video clearly shows the jogger attacked the man in the front of the truck. The dude in the truck bed wasn't even watching until the jogger jumped the man in the front. that's as clear as glass. Nor does that video show the truck went around the jogger to cut him off. Nope, that never happened. Again, the dude in the truck bed's hands are empty and he's still in the truck. If their intentions was to attack the jogger, that dudes position isn't logical at all.

LOL

You dumbshits never say anything that isn't dumb shit, huh?

The video shows the truck stopped ahead of the guy jogging down the street -- and then the jogger fighting for his life with a guy holding a shotgun at him.

Spoiler: graphic

Fry them.

 

[colfax_m]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

you have no clue as to how a chase happened or not. you aren't fking god dude. I keep telling you that.

The suspects already admitted to police that they were chasing him. It's in the police report. Read it.

ok, you have no idea the status of any weapon. unless of course you're still god.

What the hell? Do you think the shotgun that he was murdered with magically materialized in the air?

The two men in the pick up were both armed.

If you READ THE POLICE REPORT you'd know that. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

they did contact the police first. they didn't want the dude to leave. they want the police to interrogate him.

Then, follow him. Be a good witness.

But don't confront the guy with guns and expect him to cooperate.

Whatever you do, don't let that guy go for your gun. When you do that, you pretty much HAVE to shoot him.

At best, this is a tragedy the did not need to happen. We have a right to own firearms but we must be smart about how we use them.

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[L.K.Eder]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

The two men did not witness the jogger breaking into their house, so that's not a justifiable reason to chase after him.

They chased after him with firearms. The jogger had a reasonable right to fear for his life and safety and acted in self defense even after trying to run away from them. The two men are responsible for his death that occurred as a result.

you have no clue as to how a chase happened or not. you aren't fking god dude. I keep telling you that.

The suspects already admitted to police that they were chasing him. It's in the police report. Read it.

the real amerikans using common sense only said that sarcastically, to trigger da libs and the negroes, while not being racist. yep.

 

[L.K.Eder]

[

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

can police exonerate someone? cool

in some scenarios yes

tell me how, perfessor. i am listening.

 

[Faun]

I was just adding that there's really no logical case to be made that the victim lunged at the shooter if one watches the video slowly.

Well that's completely wrong. Pointing a gun at someone is assault. If i point a gun at you, you have a right to defend your life. I sense a bit of bias in you. You seem smart enough to figure this outt, but there is apparently a barrier to you doing so.

No you are wrong....pointing a gun at someone is not assault.....study up and get back with us...however no one pointed a gun at him until he attacked the guy with the shotgun.

Also no...just because someone may point a gun at you does not give you the right to attack him....Take a hike you lack the good sense needed to understand even this simple case of self defense.

LOLOL

Fucking moron, if someone is pointing a gun at you for no apparent reason, you have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and may legally kill them in self-defense. No one has to wait to be shot before defending themselves.