Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

LOL

You dumbshits never say anything that isn't dumb shit, huh?

The video shows the truck stopped ahead of the guy jogging down the street -- and then the jogger fighting for his life with a guy holding a shotgun at him.

Fry them.

I have given this entire matter as fair of an assessment as I can. At best, everyone involved acted stupid.

Confronting somebody you suspect of a crime is not your job and very dangerous, especially if you do so while armed. It's a stupid risk to take.

At the same time, when being confronted by several people with guns, while you are jogging, why not just keep jogging? If that is not an option, why attempt to take the shotgun away from one, when others are also armed? Maybe they kill you anyway if you try to run or if you try comply with their "arrest" but they sure as hell will kill you if you try to go for ONE of their guns. Jesus.

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[jc456]

they did contact the police first. they didn't want the dude to leave. they want the police to interrogate him.

Then, follow him. Be a good witness.

But don't confront the guy with guns and expect him to cooperate.

Whatever you do, don't let that guy go for your gun. When you do that, you pretty much HAVE to shoot him.

At best, this is a tragedy the did not need to happen. We have a right to own firearms but we must be smart about how we use them.

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I agree with all that.

being stupid isn’t a crime, even though there are stupid criminals

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Fucking moron, if someone is pointing a gun at you for no apparent reason, you have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and may legally kill them in self-defense. No one has to wait to be shot before defending themselves.

Well, that is certainly the LEGAL justification for attempting to disarm ONE of the multiple armed people pointing guns at you.

It's really STUPID, but legally justified, I suppose.

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[Faun]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

LOL

Dumbfuck, they were overruled by the video that was released, proving the killers lied about what happened.

 

[Faun]

LOL

You dumbshits never say anything that isn't dumb shit, huh?

The video shows the truck stopped ahead of the guy jogging down the street -- and then the jogger fighting for his life with a guy holding a shotgun at him.

Fry them.

I have given this entire matter as fair of an assessment as I can. At best, everyone involved acted stupid.

Confronting somebody you suspect of a crime is not your job and very dangerous, especially if you do so while armed. It's a stupid risk to take.

At the same time, when being confronted by several people with guns, while you are jogging, why not just keep jogging? If that is not an option, why attempt to take the shotgun away from one, when others are also armed? Maybe they kill you anyway if you try to run or if you try comply with their "arrest" but they sure as hell will kill you if you try to go for ONE of their guns. Jesus.

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Oh? what did the jogger do that was stupid?

 

[Faun]

Fucking moron, if someone is pointing a gun at you for no apparent reason, you have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and may legally kill them in self-defense. No one has to wait to be shot before defending themselves.

Well, that is certainly the LEGAL justification for attempting to disarm ONE of the multiple armed people pointing guns at you.

It's really STUPID, but legally justified, I suppose.

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You're faced with one of two options... hope the guy doesn't shoot you -- or fight for your life.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

 

[bodecea]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

Not true at all.

Uh huh. 9-1-1 audio is out.

Listen if you dare:

Ahmaud Arbery killing: man called 911 to report 'black male running' prior to shooting

Recordings of 911 calls obtained by the Guardian provide details on the moments before a man was shot while jogging in Georgia

www.google.com

Damn, you just handed this to us on a silver platter. LOL The caller pretty much says Ahmaud isn't doing anything wrong.

911 Operator - "And you said someone is breaking into it right now?"
The Caller - "No, it's all open, it's under construction"

911 Operator - "What is he doing?"
The Caller - "He's running down the street"

911 Operator - "I just need to know what he's doing wrong?"
The caller has no answer to that question.

Well, hmm , curious, if their intentions were to drop the dude, why would they call authorities? You have to explain that. See, to logical folks, their call means the opposite.

If they called the authorities, then why didn't they let the authorities do their job? You have to explain that. See, to logical folks, that's the more important question.

Its amazing how ridiculous some of the posters (like this one above) can be.....let me ax you dis boyoooo.............ever called the police....if you had you would know it takes a while...sometimes a long while for them to get on the scene.....thus the good citizens were trying to keep track of the suspect and slow down his escape from the area ....to give the police the time needed to arrive on the scene....this thread is like trying to teach 3rd graders....where do all these simpletons come from? Maybe most of them are black...I would hate to think white folk could be so stupid.

I'm so glad you don't make any racist posts. That would be very telling if you did.

Hell, I am a proud racist sexist bigot and even I know those two were not in the right and should have not chased the guy down...

You are an embarassment to good white folk....what do you mean they chased him down....they merely followed him....as in they did not chase him down and tackle him, or hand cuff him or restrain him in any manner, shape or form....they and everyone has a right to follow anyone....especially a suspect in a crime.

We can see who the embarassment [sic] is to GOOD folk, white or otherwise.

 

[jc456]

Fucking moron, if someone is pointing a gun at you for no apparent reason, you have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and may legally kill them in self-defense. No one has to wait to be shot before defending themselves.

Well, that is certainly the LEGAL justification for attempting to disarm ONE of the multiple armed people pointing guns at you.

It's really STUPID, but legally justified, I suppose.

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Especially when you hold the barrel against your midsection

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Dumbfuck, they were overruled by the video that was released, proving the killers lied about what happened.

What did they lie about?

Everything I read is supported by the video.

Not saying you're wrong. I just haven't seen anything they said that was contradicted.

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[Natural Citizen]

clearly the black jogger cut to the left making a bee line for the guy with the gun

I dunno, maybe we should try crayons. Is that more to your level?

Here's a crayon version of what happened in the video.

The assassin clearly repositioned himself and approached the victim here and stood armed directly blocking his only path around the obstructing vehicle. He very likely ran right into the guy pointing the gun at him.

About how long do you think the barrel was on that shotgun, btw?

 

[Mac-7]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

Thats delusional

 

[Papageorgio]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

Whoever is guilty they need to have the death penalty.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

Thats delusional

yeah. i am telling you the statute for getaway drivers being charged with murder.

example.

Wilmington man sentenced for driving getaway car in homeless man’s murder

Jaqun Orlando Copeland was sentenced for accessory to first degree murder, assaulting law enforcement and a weapon charge Monday in New Hanover County court.

www.wect.com

 

[bodecea]

I am not arguing in defense of the shooters and they put themselves in this mess.

Yeah, I know you're not.

I was just adding that there's really no logical case to be made that the victim lunged at the shooter if one watches the video slowly.

The video clearly shows that the shooter repositioned himself as the camera panned away to cut off the path of the victim as he circled around the front of the truck to resume his course.

He literally had no place to go but front-first into the barrel of a rifle.

You so dumb you cannot even watch a video and see what happened.....clearly the black jogger cut to the left making a bee line for the guy with the gun....if had continued running in the direction he was running before he decided to attack the guy with the gun he would be alive today.

Finally you admit he was a jogger. I guess that gets one killed if black in Georgia.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

Thats delusional

yeah. i am telling you the statute for getaway drivers being charged with murder.

example.

Wilmington man sentenced for driving getaway car in homeless man’s murder

Jaqun Orlando Copeland was sentenced for accessory to first degree murder, assaulting law enforcement and a weapon charge Monday in New Hanover County court.

www.wect.com

you are not even close

 

[L.K.Eder]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

Thats delusional

yeah. i am telling you the statute for getaway drivers being charged with murder.

example.

Wilmington man sentenced for driving getaway car in homeless man’s murder

Jaqun Orlando Copeland was sentenced for accessory to first degree murder, assaulting law enforcement and a weapon charge Monday in New Hanover County court.

www.wect.com

maybe that does not apply to real white merkans. but roddy did more than drive a getaway car.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

..plain and simple:
..he was doing no wrong
..the suspects admit to chasing/blocking/intercepting him--and they admit he even peacefully tried to get away
...they shot him
..he finally was FORCED to stand his ground

I have a slightly different opinion, after seeing the video.

He was doing no wrong by jogging.
They did chase/block/intercept him
I have not read where he "peacefully" tried to get away
He tried to take the shotgun away from one of them, even punched him multiple times
The struggle went on long enough for the person with the handgun to shot many times over, without hitting the shotgun guy, but he did not shoot. The shotgun guy could have shot him several times, but did not. The gun was going off because of the struggle.
At no time did it appear to me that this guy could not have just ran away, given the multiple opportunities for both gunmen to shoot him.
I never once saw him attempt to flee.

Despite the jogger not having a duty to flee, the fact that he didn't when many opportunities presented themselves, indicate that he was not acting out of fear, but out of anger.

Either way, everybody was stupid in this situation.

.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

Thats nonsense

accessory to murder

Thats delusional

yeah. i am telling you the statute for getaway drivers being charged with murder.

example.

Wilmington man sentenced for driving getaway car in homeless man’s murder

Jaqun Orlando Copeland was sentenced for accessory to first degree murder, assaulting law enforcement and a weapon charge Monday in New Hanover County court.

www.wect.com

maybe that does not apply to real white merkans. but roddy did more than drive a getaway car.

You better stick to basketball

 

[Jitss617]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

Yep...you got it....that is why the police exonerated them but now are being over-ruled by politicians trying to cater to the negro vote and to prevent the natives from rioting.

LOL

Dumbfuck, they were overruled by the video that was released, proving the killers lied about what happened.

Link to that video no one saw except you?