Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Coyote]

Is anybody going to answer my question about what reasonable action would’ve save this guys life?

Run into the trees, ot to the houses, or the other way, or ask these motherfuckers what the hell they want.

I guess these idiots on here going to go with run at the guy with a gun.



A whole lot of stupid up in here.

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How was he to know they wouldn’t shoot him downnif he ran?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

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[BWK]

Because they were chasing him, attempting to cut him off and intercept him and pulled their truck up to him specifically to stop him.

And that does not justify Arbery's aggression.

If you can’t see where McMichael is, then how can you say it’s clear that he never approached Arbery? You can’t. It’s not “clear”. It’s anything but.

You can't see him anywhere in the frame when Arbery RUNS AT HIM!!!!

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The video confirms this was self defense, not aggression. The shot rang out at the point Avery was rounding the vehicle. The aggression is from those who were in possession of illegally loaded firearms.

Yeah, what part of the video do you see where the dead guy initially feared for his life? It’s not there. All you see is the black guy being aggressive toward a white dude. That’s what’s making you fucking pissed off. A white dude killed a black dude who deserved it.

Boo fucking who.

Guys having guns does not equal aggression, you gun-grabbing twat. Running at someone is. You can cry all you want. The black dude was the aggressor and deserved to die. Fuck him.


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All you have to do, is put your instinct goggles on, pretend you are Avery running in the video yourself, and tell me what you see. My eyes and instincts tell me I would have done the same exact thing. Avery knew that running in the grass was his end too. And from where I see it, it looked like open territory to the right to me.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We do know that. You and those like you want to avoid that reality at all costs. The dude should not have been bothered.

I think you’ve underestimated the relevance of this circumstance.

When you’re faced with someone pointing a gun at you, what is your first response? I would really like to know.

Answer that question.

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[Canon Shooter]

It appears to all of us at this dude is dead because he decided to run at the guy with a fucking gun.

"All of us"? Who's that? The other entities living inside your head?

At this stage, you're just being stupid. McMichael was on the driver's side with a shotgun, and Arbery ran to the passenger side.

If you say you can't see that, you're a fucking liar...

 

[BWK]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

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What this guy decided to do, was based totally on what the two white guys actually did.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Because they were chasing him, attempting to cut him off and intercept him and pulled their truck up to him specifically to stop him.

And that does not justify Arbery's aggression.

If you can’t see where McMichael is, then how can you say it’s clear that he never approached Arbery? You can’t. It’s not “clear”. It’s anything but.

You can't see him anywhere in the frame when Arbery RUNS AT HIM!!!!

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The video confirms this was self defense, not aggression. The shot rang out at the point Avery was rounding the vehicle. The aggression is from those who were in possession of illegally loaded firearms.

Yeah, what part of the video do you see where the dead guy initially feared for his life? It’s not there. All you see is the black guy being aggressive toward a white dude. That’s what’s making you fucking pissed off. A white dude killed a black dude who deserved it.

Boo fucking who.

Guys having guns does not equal aggression, you gun-grabbing twat. Running at someone is. You can cry all you want. The black dude was the aggressor and deserved to die. Fuck him.


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All you have to do, is put your instinct goggles on, pretend you are Avery running in the video yourself, and tell me what you see. My eyes and instincts tell me I would have done the same exact thing. Avery knew that running in the grass was his end too. And from where I see it, it looked like open territory to the right to me.

What about run the other way?

What about stop and ask him what the fuck they want?

What about Ron 90° from the truck toward the woods?

You are so full of shit. You know you’re full of shit.

Nobody, when a gun is pointed at them, runs at the gun. Nobody.

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[Coyote]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

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Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

 

[Canon Shooter]

When you’re faced with someone pointing a gun at you, what is your first response? I would really like to know.

Answer that question.

It would be to run to the opposite side of the truck.

Just like Arbery did.

Oh, and thank you for finally admitting that McMichael pointed the gun at Arbery. That's assault with a deadly weapon...

 

[Coyote]

We do know that. You and those like you want to avoid that reality at all costs. The dude should not have been bothered.

I think you’ve underestimated the relevance of this circumstance.

When you’re faced with someone pointing a gun at you, what is your first response? I would really like to know.

Answer that question.

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There is no one answer. It really depends on a lot variables.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It appears to all of us at this dude is dead because he decided to run at the guy with a fucking gun.

"All of us"? Who's that? The other entities living inside your head?

At this stage, you're just being stupid. McMichael was on the driver's side with a shotgun, and Arbery ran to the passenger side.

If you say you can't see that, you're a fucking liar...

Answer this fucking question and stop avoiding it.

When someone is pointing a gun at you, is it your first instinct to run at them and try to take the gun away?

You won’t answer honestly because you’re a fucking asswipe. You know you’ve been defeated. You know that it was absolutely unreasonable for the fucking idiot to run it somebody pointing a gun in hand.

So, if you can’t see somebody pointing a gun at him, we can reasonably assume that nobody did porn ago and had it because nobody would run it somebody pointing a gun at them.

Don’t get pissed at me because I have hit on the very essence of this entire situation.

When somebody points a gun at you, you run at them and try to take the gun away don’t you? You’re that fucking stupid aren’t you?



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[Canon Shooter]

What about run the other way?

That's what Arbery did. That's ridiculously obvious in the video...

What about stop and ask him what the fuck they want?

If I'm a black guy and I've got two armed rednecks chasing me down, the last thing I'm gonna' do is stop and chat to find out what's on their mind. Hell, I'm a white guy and if I've got two armed rednecks chasing me down, the last thing I'm gonna' do is stop and chat to find out what's on their mind.

My God, you're fucking stupid...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

When you’re faced with someone pointing a gun at you, what is your first response? I would really like to know.

Answer that question.

It would be to run to the opposite side of the truck.

Just like Arbery did.

Oh, and thank you for finally admitting that McMichael pointed the gun at Arbery. That's assault with a deadly weapon...

So, why did this dude run at McMichael at the front of the truck, if McMichael was (allegedly) pointing a gun at him?

Is that what you would’ve done?

It is isn’t it? You’re that fucking stupid.



Run at the guy pointing a gun at you.


You have been defeated and you know it.

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[KissMy]

These guys are trying to get us to believe they had no intention of stopping him.

So? Trying to stop somebody is not assault.

Going after somebody and try to take their gun away from him is very much assault.

What's equally clear is that McMichaels then went from the driver's side of the truck to the front of the truck. Why would he have done that if he had no interest in confronting the jogger?

He did. Irrelevant. Confronting is not assaulting.

The only person that you can tell is committing assault in this video is the dead guy.

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We can't say, with any degree of certainty, what happened in front of the truck. The fact that they armed themselves and chased him down and tried to stop him, though, strongly suggests to any rational, non-racist that Travis McMichael put him self in a position where Arbery felt he needed to be in fear for his life. Struggling for the gun may well have been the only thing Arbery felt would help save his life.

What you claim to be irrelevant is actually an important factor to this case.

I'll say this for the retarded kids in the class: If you arm yourself and chase someone down and attempt to stop them, you cannot claim self defense. I believe the law in all 50 states would bear that out; even in Georgia.

Why did Travis McMichael confront Arbery with a shotgun if all he and his father wanted to do was talk to him?

It's not that way in all 50 states, however it is in Georgia. They are not allowed to attempt to defend property, stop, preach to, question or detain suspects in GA. They only have the right to observe & report to police. They acted like LEO's getting out of truck to perform an armed confrontation. Arbery was stupid for grabbing the gun, but McMichael shouldn't have confronted him with or without a gun in the first place.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What about run the other way?

That's what Arbery did. That's ridiculously obvious in the video...

What about stop and ask him what the fuck they want?

If I'm a black guy and I've got two armed rednecks chasing me down, the last thing I'm gonna' do is stop and chat to find out what's on their mind. Hell, I'm a white guy and if I've got two armed rednecks chasing me down, the last thing I'm gonna' do is stop and chat to find out what's on their mind.

My God, you're fucking stupid...

The dead deer did not run the other way. He never ran the other way. The other way is toward the guy with the camera.

Are you that fucking stupid? Seriously?



You are that fucking stupid aren’t you?



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[Winco]

How do you know?

You bring a loaded gun to school how do you know that’s not what he wanted to do?

By the same reason, you bring your loaded Shotgun and your backup, DAD, has a loaded handgun, and you confront someone a gun point, then by your Jitss617 , these two clowns had every intention of "Shooting up the jogger" just like you claim he was going to "shoot up the school"

Gawd it is fun to own you.
You fuuckking Idiot.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

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Thats a deflection. Why? Because normal people don't do that.

 

[IM2]

You aren't being reasonable. Some things are apparent.

Why? Because I can’t understand why a guy like this, who is being confronted by two dudes with guns, would not run the other way, or run into the trees, or run toward the houses, or stop and ask these motherfuckers what the fuck they want?

I’m being unreasonable because I think a guy is acting unreasonably when faced with all these choices, and he decides to run at the guy carrying a gun?

I have nothing more to say about anything else until somebody can explain this shit.

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There is only one question to be asked here bootney and it is, "Why did these 2 men decide to take the law into their own hands?"

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

These guys are trying to get us to believe they had no intention of stopping him.

So? Trying to stop somebody is not assault.

Going after somebody and try to take their gun away from him is very much assault.

What's equally clear is that McMichaels then went from the driver's side of the truck to the front of the truck. Why would he have done that if he had no interest in confronting the jogger?

He did. Irrelevant. Confronting is not assaulting.

The only person that you can tell is committing assault in this video is the dead guy.

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We can't say, with any degree of certainty, what happened in front of the truck. The fact that they armed themselves and chased him down and tried to stop him, though, strongly suggests to any rational, non-racist that Travis McMichael put him self in a position where Arbery felt he needed to be in fear for his life. Struggling for the gun may well have been the only thing Arbery felt would help save his life.

What you claim to be irrelevant is actually an important factor to this case.

I'll say this for the retarded kids in the class: If you arm yourself and chase someone down and attempt to stop them, you cannot claim self defense. I believe the law in all 50 states would bear that out; even in Georgia.

Why did Travis McMichael confront Arbery with a shotgun if all he and his father wanted to do was talk to him?

It's not that way in all 50 states, however it is in Georgia. They are not allowed to attempt to defend property, stop, preach to, question or detain suspects in GA. They only have the right to observe & report to police. They acted like LEO's getting out of truck to perform an armed confrontation. Arbery was stupid for grabbing the gun & got himself killed, but McMichael confronted him with or without a gun in the first place.

If that is true, and I suspect it is, McMichael is guilty of unlawful arrest.

Not murder. Unlawful arrest.

The black dude is dead because he thought he could disarm somebody and not get shot. Darwin at work. Natural selection.

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[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

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Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

"Huge" I would have beaten their fat asses and shoved that gun down the fat dude's throat. But that is besides the point. Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the fucking road? Normal people do not do that.