Video of Muslim Bakers refusing to serve homosexual wedding

The law is the law. It doesn't matter if perpetrators are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, atheist, etc.
Then why aren't the muslims being sued?

Maybe because the dummy heavily edited the video to a point where you can't tell what's going on most of the time, and didn't name any of the bakeries he went to? I don't know. Just a thought. :dunno:
 
The current state of Christianity is definitely a lot better than the current state of disaster that is Islam. That doesn't mean Christian BULLSHIT should be allowed to stand. :cool:
When will you be joining the Governor of Connecticut Dannel Malloy (ISIS) in lining up Christians on beaches?
 
It's up to Christians to live more tolerant lives on their own accord, like Christ himself told them to.

Sure, but shouldn't a teaching work both ways? I know there are self professed gay Christians out there, if so, should not the teachings of Christ apply to them also?

Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway
 
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It's up to Christians to live more tolerant lives on their own accord, like Christ himself told them to.

Sure, but shouldn't a teaching work both ways? I know there are self professed gay Christians out there, if so, should not the teachings of Christ apply to them also?

Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.
 
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The law is the law. It doesn't matter if perpetrators are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, atheist, etc.
Then why aren't the muslims being sued?

Maybe because the dummy heavily edited the video to a point where you can't tell what's going on most of the time, and didn't name any of the bakeries he went to? I don't know. Just a thought. :dunno:
You're being disingenuous. Man up and admit there's a double standard. You don't have a problem forcing Christians (who are peaceful) but you don't dare speak against the muslims (who execute gays). Are you afraid of them or is it just that opposing them would be going against your party and Obama?
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

The same exact standards apply.
It's up to Christians to live more tolerant lives on their own accord, like Christ himself told them to.

Sure, but shouldn't a teaching work both ways? I know there are self professed gay Christians out there, if so, should not the teachings of Christ apply to them also?

Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.

The idea that Christians must refuse to do business with homosexuals is simply a made up belief.

And that's the problem with this extremist view of religious special privilege. All you really have to do is claim that your personal prejudices are of a religious nature and, poof! you get a magic free pass from the law of the land.

It's idiocy.
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

The same exact standards apply.
Sure, but shouldn't a teaching work both ways? I know there are self professed gay Christians out there, if so, should not the teachings of Christ apply to them also?

Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.

The idea that Christians must refuse to do business with homosexuals is simply a made up belief.

And that's the problem with this extremist view of religious special privilege. All you really have to do is claim that your personal prejudices are of a religious nature and, poof! you get a magic free pass from the law of the land.

It's idiocy.
Who said they "must" refuse to do business with homos?
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

The same exact standards apply.
Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.

The idea that Christians must refuse to do business with homosexuals is simply a made up belief.

And that's the problem with this extremist view of religious special privilege. All you really have to do is claim that your personal prejudices are of a religious nature and, poof! you get a magic free pass from the law of the land.

It's idiocy.
Who said they "must" refuse to do business with homos?

So if they don't have to, then it isn't a religious mandate, it's a personal choice, which takes religion out of it. The Constitution doesn't protect acting on your personal prejudices from being subject to the law
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

The same exact standards apply.
When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.

The idea that Christians must refuse to do business with homosexuals is simply a made up belief.

And that's the problem with this extremist view of religious special privilege. All you really have to do is claim that your personal prejudices are of a religious nature and, poof! you get a magic free pass from the law of the land.

It's idiocy.
Who said they "must" refuse to do business with homos?

So if they don't have to, then it isn't a religious mandate, it's a personal choice, which takes religion out of it. The Constitution doesn't protect acting on your personal prejudices from being subject to the law
You're grasping at straws.
 
The law is the law. It doesn't matter if perpetrators are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, atheist, etc.
Then why aren't the muslims being sued?

Maybe because the dummy heavily edited the video to a point where you can't tell what's going on most of the time, and didn't name any of the bakeries he went to? I don't know. Just a thought. :dunno:
You're being disingenuous. Man up and admit there's a double standard. You don't have a problem forcing Christians (who are peaceful) but you don't dare speak against the muslims (who execute gays). Are you afraid of them or is it just that opposing them would be going against your party and Obama?

Um... no. I'm not even a Democrat. The fact is that he didn't name any of the bakeries he went to. Who are people supposed to be outraged at? Every Muslim bakery? That might work if he didn't acknowledge in the video that a majority of the bakeries accepted his request.
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

Of course we can and should.
Damn right. Just as Islamic bullshit like Sharia law is illegal in this country, so should Christian bullshit be. We should be fine with the good in those religions, but the evil we need to boot the fuck out.

Christian Bullshit like the US Declaration of Independence, which expressed the principles the US Constitution was written to sustain, and the laws against Murder, assault, theft and libel?

.

.

.

You do know that western juris prudence rests entirely upon Judea-Christian principle, right?

LOL! YOU DON'T KNOW... do ya?

BE HONEST! (Which means resist your natural tendency to do what you'd normally do...)

I love too how the loser suggests we keep only "the good" things from Christianity or the bible. You get that? He will define what is "good." Lol at how arrogant and narcissistic they all are.
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

The same exact standards apply.
Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway


I will even help you out. The Greek word for 'homosexual' was ΠΑΙΔΕΡΑΣΤΕ (or "paiderasste") Here is a link to the New Testament in Greek (the language it was actually written in). Online Greek Interlinear Bible Search the entire thing and find one place...just one...where Jesus even used the word. I can save you time....you won't find it. I have searched and it aint there. According to what the Bible attributes to Him, He didn't say a single word about it one way or the other.

The idea that Christians must refuse to do business with homosexuals is simply a made up belief.

And that's the problem with this extremist view of religious special privilege. All you really have to do is claim that your personal prejudices are of a religious nature and, poof! you get a magic free pass from the law of the land.

It's idiocy.
Who said they "must" refuse to do business with homos?

So if they don't have to, then it isn't a religious mandate, it's a personal choice, which takes religion out of it. The Constitution doesn't protect acting on your personal prejudices from being subject to the law
You're grasping at straws.

Why didn't the Constitution - according to the Supreme Court - protect Mormon polygamy?

That was a purely religious belief, practiced by a Christian religion.
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

Of course we can and should.
Damn right. Just as Islamic bullshit like Sharia law is illegal in this country, so should Christian bullshit be. We should be fine with the good in those religions, but the evil we need to boot the fuck out.

Christian Bullshit like the US Declaration of Independence, which expressed the principles the US Constitution was written to sustain, and the laws against Murder, assault, theft and libel?

.

.

.

You do know that western juris prudence rests entirely upon Judea-Christian principle, right?

LOL! YOU DON'T KNOW... do ya?

BE HONEST! (Which means resist your natural tendency to do what you'd normally do...)

I love too how the loser suggests we keep only "the good" things from Christianity or the bible. You get that? He will define what is "good." Lol at how arrogant and narcissistic they all are.

So you believe that Muslims have the religious right to practice Sharia Law in this country, even if you don't consider it 'good'?

That's really your position?
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

Of course we can and should.
Damn right. Just as Islamic bullshit like Sharia law is illegal in this country, so should Christian bullshit be. We should be fine with the good in those religions, but the evil we need to boot the fuck out.

Christian Bullshit like the US Declaration of Independence, which expressed the principles the US Constitution was written to sustain, and the laws against Murder, assault, theft and libel?

.

.

.

You do know that western juris prudence rests entirely upon Judea-Christian principle, right?

LOL! YOU DON'T KNOW... do ya?

BE HONEST! (Which means resist your natural tendency to do what you'd normally do...)

I love too how the loser suggests we keep only "the good" things from Christianity or the bible. You get that? He will define what is "good." Lol at how arrogant and narcissistic they all are.

So you believe that Muslims have the religious right to practice Sharia Law in this country, even if you don't consider it 'good'?

That's really your position?

LOL! What color is the sky in your world?
 
The law is the law. It doesn't matter if perpetrators are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, atheist, etc.
Then why aren't the muslims being sued?

Maybe because the dummy heavily edited the video to a point where you can't tell what's going on most of the time, and didn't name any of the bakeries he went to? I don't know. Just a thought. :dunno:
They're all in Dearborn, Michigan, a heavily Muslim city. How hard do you think they are to find?
 
You can't apply the same standard to muslims you apply to Christians. Where have you been, anyway?

Muslim sensitivity trumps all. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Muslims bring a hate crime for being asked to make a gay wedding cake!
 
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Since the right is basically just sucking up and only writing of their discontent on forums....

Doesn't that make the right (of which I am a part) equally cowardly?
Well if I shoot a leftist asshole, I go to jail. So what do you expect me to do?
 
It's up to Christians to live more tolerant lives on their own accord, like Christ himself told them to.

Sure, but shouldn't a teaching work both ways? I know there are self professed gay Christians out there, if so, should not the teachings of Christ apply to them also?

Name one place where Jesus spoke against homosexuals

When he sanctified marriage as being between one man and one woman. Matthew 19:1-6

Horse shit. All Jesus said in Matthew 19:1-6 is that married couples should not get divorced. Jesus refers to male and female in regard to marriage, yes, but so would most of us because that is the most common form of marriage we experience. Homosexual marriages were legal in Rome at the time but they still represented such a small proportion of marriages that one would not be expected to go out of their way to refer to them. Jesus refers to marriage in the most common way it existed then and today but he does not specify that it is the only recognizable form of marriage, nor does he say a word about homosexuality or the nature of homosexual relationships in even the most general form. Are you reading the Bible or writing your own?


1 Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19 - Divorce - When Jesus had finished - Bible Gateway

I am so sick and tired of you know it all academics who know nothing about the bible, do not believe in God, and certainly spit on every TRUE follower of Christ pretending to know it.

You are an absolute fool. I have no inclination to address you or your pathetic ignorant arrogant disposition. However, I will address this pathetic attempt on your part to insinuate that homosexuality is perfectly OK to Christ and the notion that Christ does not see it as the abomination it is, or how you insinuate that being an unrepentant sinner is perfectly ok. Since, what you say will influence people that do not know better to accept such idiocy.

One, the Holy Spirit is the AUTHOR if the WORD. So, what does that mean. When the Holy Spirit writes through any author in the bible it IS THE WORDS OF CHRIST. Since, the Holy Spirit testifies to the TRUTH and testifies to CHRIST.

That being said, the WORD is CRYSTAL CLEAR that homosexuality is AN ABOMINATION. I will list the verses for those that have been corrupted by your self righteous ignorant devilish crap.

LEVITICUS 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

LEVITICUS 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.

JUDGES 19:22-23 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your house so we [Benjamites living in Gibeah] can have sex with him." The owner of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile."

1 KINGS 14:24 There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land [Rehoboam was king at the time]; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.

1 KINGS 15:12 He [King Asa] expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land [Judah] and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made.

1 KINGS 22:46 He [King Jehosophat] rid the land [Judah] of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa.

2 KINGS 23:7 He [King Josiah] also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes, which were in the temple of the Lord and where women did weaving for Asherah.

New Testament

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 TIMOTHY 1:9-11 We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

JUDE 1:7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Now, to make it clear everyone. I am no saint, and I myself have not exactly been moral in my life (to say the least.) That, does not make it OK. That does not let me off of the hook as it were.

That means I am subject to the same judgement as any unrepentant sinner.

What does it all mean? It means you post lies. The lies come from the eternal liar.
 

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