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i’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol
Why wouldn’t you have your gun? He’s running toward you. And there is a hammer in the picture. We don’t know when he threw it or if McMichaels saw himi’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol
It’s simple. In his other hand was a357 Magnum. And his idiot son was trying to stop an unarmed jogger from getting past his truck while brandishing a shotgun.
bringing firearms when attempting to detain someone you did not see commit a crime is aggravated assault, a felony.
Because Arbery ended up dead for whatever reason as the victim of their aggravated assault, the McMichaels are charged with murder while committing a felony.,
its an open and shut case because the vvideo shows the attempts to detain.
No. Not true. Gregory McMichael told police he saw a man running past his house and so he grabbed his .357 Magnum and told his idiot son to grab his shotgun so they could stop him.He’s running toward you
They never said stop him lol LIARshotgun so they stop him.
cool storyThen Dirty Harry and Festus pursued an unarmed jogger for basically the crime of jogging while black. And then the third white neighbor shows up and uses his car as a weapon to corner the jogger and force him to reverse his direction. Then we see the culmination and completion of the aggravated assault and violent death of a man who was jogging while black on the video.
cool story, you have an Imaginationit’s clear cut guilty for the gunman, maybe less so for the one who used his car as a weapon, but this case is solid. Another case that was obvious due to what was caught on video was when the young Nazi James Fields Rammed his car into a crowd at Charlottesville. I called murder and hate crime based on study if the video and that is what the Nazi got.
where you defending the Nazi back then by denying visual reality like you are doing today for the killers in the Arbery shooting?
Just curious.
It could be said of both sides who either support a quick release or a quick hanging.I wouldn't think so if the case is tried with a proper lay out of the evidence, otherwise in which happens in most cases that are tried across this nation. Yes we as a nation can get it wrong sometimes, but I think that's the exception and not the majority rule most of the time.View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCEForced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with forceThis is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s houseWho said that?Except for black people huh?Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.
Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?
I'm not a lawyer, but it certainly sounds like a pretty good case for Reasonable Doubt and the subsequent exoneration of the McMichael's family. The libs have to be prepared for acquittal and a finding of Total and Complete innocence. Will the Libs schedule a riot if the verdict comes down against them?
A lot of people are getting their hopes up that this is going to be a quick trial and a quick hanging of the McMichaels.
I just don't see that happening and their leaders need to realize this.
Not enough. Just one part of it.Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gunLet all things be done decent and in order.Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.
All things here are way out of order.
That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.
All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .
we see the video
It could be said of both sides who either support a quick release or a quick hanging.I wouldn't think so if the case is tried with a proper lay out of the evidence, otherwise in which happens in most cases that are tried across this nation. Yes we as a nation can get it wrong sometimes, but I think that's the exception and not the majority rule most of the time.View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCEForced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with forceThis is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s houseWho said that?Except for black people huh?Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.
Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?
I'm not a lawyer, but it certainly sounds like a pretty good case for Reasonable Doubt and the subsequent exoneration of the McMichael's family. The libs have to be prepared for acquittal and a finding of Total and Complete innocence. Will the Libs schedule a riot if the verdict comes down against them?
A lot of people are getting their hopes up that this is going to be a quick trial and a quick hanging of the McMichaels.
I just don't see that happening and their leaders need to realize this.
It's a wait and see for all, but the exchanges have been definitely an eye opener for all. Let the chips fall where they may, but hopefully justice will prevail in regards to where the strongest evidence does lead, and ultimately it will end in justice being won in it's purest form available in our midst.
It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTYNot enough. Just one part of it.Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gunLet all things be done decent and in order.Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.
All things here are way out of order.
That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.
All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .
we see the video
Attacks Travis for what ? This will be the huge elephant in the room that will be explored intensely and thoroughly in the trial..... How did these three end up attempting to detain or stop the foward travel of a man running in the street, even if it is assumed that the man was leaving a property that he may or may not have burglarized ?? The question will be, did they have the legal right to do what they did ??? If not, then everything from that point forward will be the focus of the trial for these three, and if Arbery did burglarize the property, then he has paid the ultimate price for that already, so the focus will be on legalities and illegalities of the acts committed by all in the situation.This is the police report there is no other report.. as of now.. it’s a joke.. it was ruled justifiable homicide twice.. which it is.. i’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol The narrative given to us by the left-wing media is that this was two men lynching a black guy which is absolutely not true.. if you view the video that way you’ll respond to it that way.. but if you watch you’ll see Arbery attacks Travis. Game overThank you for posting this but do you have access to the entire report, or the detective's report?View attachment 340160Are you black?Do you happen to have a hyperlink to the police report, if not I can search for it.He was caught leaving the dwelling by TravisCaught doing what & by whom?
They were in the yard when they saw him running,, the neighborhood was in high alert, even the police told English to contact McMichaels if there’s another break inBoth of them? If so why didn't they have the homeowner preserve the video tape, have the homeowner file a police report and then they could have obtained the report/incident/CAD number and provided it to dispatch on the day they claimed to have seen him again and that should have been the extent of their "involvment" in their neighbor's situation.
idk it’s in the police reportWhere is the video of him putting his hands down his pants?
Bryan actually pans over to the hammer on the ground.. The please report is four paragraphs long for a murder I’ve gotten into fistfights on the street that were five pages long this police report wasn’t very well written.The picture of what might be a hammer, from what source was it obtained? Is it a single frame from a video, was is it a snapshot? Was it evident at the scene of the crime when the police arrived, was it pointed out by the McMichaels and logged into evidence?
Two things of note with this Narrative is first of all Gregory McMichael is listed as a "witness" when in actuality he was a participant in the incident. The second thing I noted is that the Narrative appears to be nothing more than a recitation of what Gregory McMichael claims to have happened. Where's the statement of the actual shooter, Travis? In other words I'd like to see the statements they gave the detectives, including where they admitted that they were attempting an citizen's arrest.
And does no one else find it notable that a man who is former law enforcement and had his law enforcement rights to arrest revoked, then attempts to execute a citizen's arrest? I mean the way I see it is if as a law enforcement officer he had his ability to arrest people revoked, why would he then believe that as a private citizen he could attempt an arrest of this nature?
I’m for American justice you rob my neighbors house over and over and over again you’re told not to go in over and over again you continue to do it you grab your dick in front of my house, you’re going to be confronted, he provoked Michael’s to follow him,, And then he attacked Travis Travis was happening to protect himself with a gun and he blew a hole in his chestAttacks Travis for what ? This will be the huge elephant in the room that will be explored intensely and thoroughly in the trial..... How did these three end up attempting to detain or stop the foward travel of a man running in the street, even if it is assumed that the man was leaving a property that he may or may not have burglarized ?? The question will be, did they have the legal right to do what they did ??? If not, then everything from that point forward will be the focus of the trial for these three, and if Arbery did burglarize the property, then he has paid the ultimate price for that already, so the focus will be on legalities and illegalities of the acts committed by all in the situation.This is the police report there is no other report.. as of now.. it’s a joke.. it was ruled justifiable homicide twice.. which it is.. i’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol The narrative given to us by the left-wing media is that this was two men lynching a black guy which is absolutely not true.. if you view the video that way you’ll respond to it that way.. but if you watch you’ll see Arbery attacks Travis. Game overThank you for posting this but do you have access to the entire report, or the detective's report?View attachment 340160Are you black?Do you happen to have a hyperlink to the police report, if not I can search for it.He was caught leaving the dwelling by TravisCaught doing what & by whom?
They were in the yard when they saw him running,, the neighborhood was in high alert, even the police told English to contact McMichaels if there’s another break inBoth of them? If so why didn't they have the homeowner preserve the video tape, have the homeowner file a police report and then they could have obtained the report/incident/CAD number and provided it to dispatch on the day they claimed to have seen him again and that should have been the extent of their "involvment" in their neighbor's situation.
idk it’s in the police reportWhere is the video of him putting his hands down his pants?
Bryan actually pans over to the hammer on the ground.. The please report is four paragraphs long for a murder I’ve gotten into fistfights on the street that were five pages long this police report wasn’t very well written.The picture of what might be a hammer, from what source was it obtained? Is it a single frame from a video, was is it a snapshot? Was it evident at the scene of the crime when the police arrived, was it pointed out by the McMichaels and logged into evidence?
Two things of note with this Narrative is first of all Gregory McMichael is listed as a "witness" when in actuality he was a participant in the incident. The second thing I noted is that the Narrative appears to be nothing more than a recitation of what Gregory McMichael claims to have happened. Where's the statement of the actual shooter, Travis? In other words I'd like to see the statements they gave the detectives, including where they admitted that they were attempting an citizen's arrest.
And does no one else find it notable that a man who is former law enforcement and had his law enforcement rights to arrest revoked, then attempts to execute a citizen's arrest? I mean the way I see it is if as a law enforcement officer he had his ability to arrest people revoked, why would he then believe that as a private citizen he could attempt an arrest of this nature?
Not enough. Just one part of it.
I’m for American justice you rob my neighbors house over and over and over again you’re told not to go in over and over again you continue to do it you grab your dick in front of my house, you’re going to be confronted, he provoked Michael’s to follow him,, And then he attacked Travis Travis was happening to protect himself with a gun and he blew a hole in his chestAttacks Travis for what ? This will be the huge elephant in the room that will be explored intensely and thoroughly in the trial..... How did these three end up attempting to detain or stop the foward travel of a man running in the street, even if it is assumed that the man was leaving a property that he may or may not have burglarized ?? The question will be, did they have the legal right to do what they did ??? If not, then everything from that point forward will be the focus of the trial for these three, and if Arbery did burglarize the property, then he has paid the ultimate price for that already, so the focus will be on legalities and illegalities of the acts committed by all in the situation.This is the police report there is no other report.. as of now.. it’s a joke.. it was ruled justifiable homicide twice.. which it is.. i’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol The narrative given to us by the left-wing media is that this was two men lynching a black guy which is absolutely not true.. if you view the video that way you’ll respond to it that way.. but if you watch you’ll see Arbery attacks Travis. Game overThank you for posting this but do you have access to the entire report, or the detective's report?View attachment 340160Are you black?Do you happen to have a hyperlink to the police report, if not I can search for it.He was caught leaving the dwelling by TravisCaught doing what & by whom?
They were in the yard when they saw him running,, the neighborhood was in high alert, even the police told English to contact McMichaels if there’s another break inBoth of them? If so why didn't they have the homeowner preserve the video tape, have the homeowner file a police report and then they could have obtained the report/incident/CAD number and provided it to dispatch on the day they claimed to have seen him again and that should have been the extent of their "involvment" in their neighbor's situation.
idk it’s in the police reportWhere is the video of him putting his hands down his pants?
Bryan actually pans over to the hammer on the ground.. The please report is four paragraphs long for a murder I’ve gotten into fistfights on the street that were five pages long this police report wasn’t very well written.The picture of what might be a hammer, from what source was it obtained? Is it a single frame from a video, was is it a snapshot? Was it evident at the scene of the crime when the police arrived, was it pointed out by the McMichaels and logged into evidence?
Two things of note with this Narrative is first of all Gregory McMichael is listed as a "witness" when in actuality he was a participant in the incident. The second thing I noted is that the Narrative appears to be nothing more than a recitation of what Gregory McMichael claims to have happened. Where's the statement of the actual shooter, Travis? In other words I'd like to see the statements they gave the detectives, including where they admitted that they were attempting an citizen's arrest.
And does no one else find it notable that a man who is former law enforcement and had his law enforcement rights to arrest revoked, then attempts to execute a citizen's arrest? I mean the way I see it is if as a law enforcement officer he had his ability to arrest people revoked, why would he then believe that as a private citizen he could attempt an arrest of this nature?
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your version of what happened is based on absolutely nothing but idiocy.
It’s true the act of continually going into that house was a provocative act,, Arbery was told not to go ! Our neighbors supposed to sit there and be terrorized? They followed him until the cops came, he got shotI’m for American justice you rob my neighbors house over and over and over again you’re told not to go in over and over again you continue to do it you grab your dick in front of my house, you’re going to be confronted, he provoked Michael’s to follow him,, And then he attacked Travis Travis was happening to protect himself with a gun and he blew a hole in his chestAttacks Travis for what ? This will be the huge elephant in the room that will be explored intensely and thoroughly in the trial..... How did these three end up attempting to detain or stop the foward travel of a man running in the street, even if it is assumed that the man was leaving a property that he may or may not have burglarized ?? The question will be, did they have the legal right to do what they did ??? If not, then everything from that point forward will be the focus of the trial for these three, and if Arbery did burglarize the property, then he has paid the ultimate price for that already, so the focus will be on legalities and illegalities of the acts committed by all in the situation.This is the police report there is no other report.. as of now.. it’s a joke.. it was ruled justifiable homicide twice.. which it is.. i’m not sure how somebody can be charged with murder when they’re on the phone with the fucking cops lol The narrative given to us by the left-wing media is that this was two men lynching a black guy which is absolutely not true.. if you view the video that way you’ll respond to it that way.. but if you watch you’ll see Arbery attacks Travis. Game overThank you for posting this but do you have access to the entire report, or the detective's report?View attachment 340160Are you black?Do you happen to have a hyperlink to the police report, if not I can search for it.He was caught leaving the dwelling by TravisCaught doing what & by whom?
They were in the yard when they saw him running,, the neighborhood was in high alert, even the police told English to contact McMichaels if there’s another break inBoth of them? If so why didn't they have the homeowner preserve the video tape, have the homeowner file a police report and then they could have obtained the report/incident/CAD number and provided it to dispatch on the day they claimed to have seen him again and that should have been the extent of their "involvment" in their neighbor's situation.
idk it’s in the police reportWhere is the video of him putting his hands down his pants?
Bryan actually pans over to the hammer on the ground.. The please report is four paragraphs long for a murder I’ve gotten into fistfights on the street that were five pages long this police report wasn’t very well written.The picture of what might be a hammer, from what source was it obtained? Is it a single frame from a video, was is it a snapshot? Was it evident at the scene of the crime when the police arrived, was it pointed out by the McMichaels and logged into evidence?
Two things of note with this Narrative is first of all Gregory McMichael is listed as a "witness" when in actuality he was a participant in the incident. The second thing I noted is that the Narrative appears to be nothing more than a recitation of what Gregory McMichael claims to have happened. Where's the statement of the actual shooter, Travis? In other words I'd like to see the statements they gave the detectives, including where they admitted that they were attempting an citizen's arrest.
And does no one else find it notable that a man who is former law enforcement and had his law enforcement rights to arrest revoked, then attempts to execute a citizen's arrest? I mean the way I see it is if as a law enforcement officer he had his ability to arrest people revoked, why would he then believe that as a private citizen he could attempt an arrest of this nature?
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your version of what happened is based on absolutely nothing but idiocy.
Where did that happen? Do democrats always have a fake narrative when it comes to race? LolSo a couple of drunken rednecks see a black guy go running past their house and their solution is to get their guns, get in the pickup, and go confront him.
And what could possibly go wrong with that scenario?
So a couple of drunken rednecks see a black guy go running past their house and their solution is to get their guns, get in the pickup, and go confront him.
And what could possibly go wrong with that scenario?
Lol he’s a democrat they set the narrative haSo a couple of drunken rednecks see a black guy go running past their house and their solution is to get their guns, get in the pickup, and go confront him.
And what could possibly go wrong with that scenario?
I didn't hear about these guys being drunk at all. Where did you hear that?
Conservatives and some Democrats of all races believe in the justice system no matter how flawed it can be sometimes, and they (those that agree in this way), don't have agitators in their name stirring up bullcrap nor do they believe in agitators stirring up bullcrap in their name such as with (mob rule through chaos and anarchy),based on quick assumptions and lies in an attempt to overthrow that justice system in which they believe..It could be said of both sides who either support a quick release or a quick hanging.I wouldn't think so if the case is tried with a proper lay out of the evidence, otherwise in which happens in most cases that are tried across this nation. Yes we as a nation can get it wrong sometimes, but I think that's the exception and not the majority rule most of the time.View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCEForced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with forceThis is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s houseWho said that?Except for black people huh?Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.
Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?
I'm not a lawyer, but it certainly sounds like a pretty good case for Reasonable Doubt and the subsequent exoneration of the McMichael's family. The libs have to be prepared for acquittal and a finding of Total and Complete innocence. Will the Libs schedule a riot if the verdict comes down against them?
A lot of people are getting their hopes up that this is going to be a quick trial and a quick hanging of the McMichaels.
I just don't see that happening and their leaders need to realize this.
It's a wait and see for all, but the exchanges have been definitely an eye opener for all. Let the chips fall where they may, but hopefully justice will prevail in regards to where the strongest evidence does lead, and ultimately it will end in justice being won in it's purest form available in our midst.
Conservatives really haven't rioted after trials where police have been actually convicted of murder. There were no protests when Officer Eppolito and Caracappa went to prison. If the evidence were to indicate guilt or even if it didn't and the jury still convicted in this McMichaels case, Conservatives aren't going to riot if the past is predictive of the future.