violence of the left vs right

[gipper]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

What a fucked up liar you are.

Chelsea Clinton: Kathy Griffin's Trump-beheading photo ‘vile and wrong'

Chelsea Clinton on Tuesday criticized Kathy Griffin for a “vile” photo of the comedian posing with a fake decapitated head resembling President Trump.

“This is vile and wrong,” Clinton tweeted. “It is never funny to joke about killing the president.”

Just one man's opinion. No need to be so nasty today Old Crotch.

I bet when Kathy comes to your town, you will gladly pay money to see her. Right?

NEVER!!! watta bitch

Old Crotch LOVES her!

 

[iceberg]

OldLady and i were talking about which side is more prone to violence to justify their "thoughts" and to me, the left by far. my examples were anti-fa cause who can argue that, but she dismissed them as no more "left" than KKK is right - so let's remove 'em. after that i will pull from various sources and many may not be "mainstream" so i expect some push back - but that's fine. the question is more "is this real, and is it an example of violence from a particular side"?

let's start off with a left leaning site.
Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any | HuffPost
In the face of media, politicians, and GOP primary voters normalizing Trump as a presidential candidate—whatever your personal beliefs regarding violent resistance—there’s an inherent value in forestalling Trump’s normalization. Violent resistance accomplishes this. In spite of this, such resistance is apparently more offensive and unacceptable to societal norms and liberal sensibilities than the nastiness being resisted in the first place.
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this does try to pre-face it with "good old boy" stereotyping and of course let's scream CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION to get an emotional buy in - but they pretty much say get violent. resist. it's your duty.

and just wow - that article is a piece of shit and why i usually avoid huffpost.

the article ends with:
And when those who hold that privilege dismiss the potential validity or logic of violent resistance, it’s effectively an effort to dictate the rules under which oppressed peoples respond to existential threats, and to silence forms of resistance disagreeable to privileged sensibilities. Don’t be that liberal.
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Liberal Intolerance for Conservative Ideas Is Inspiring Violence - Say Anything
Meanwhile, the sort of left wing violence Beinart decries is moving off campus. Progressive demonstrators rioted for days after Trump’s election day victory. His inauguration prompted more violence. Over the weekend pro-Trump rallies also invited violence from the left, notably in California and Minnesota.
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How The American Left Made Political Violence The New Normal
On Thursday night, leftist protesters at a Donald Trump rally in San Jose, California, chased down Donald Trump supporters and beat them bloody, spit in their faces, pelted a female Trump supporter with eggs, hurled rocks at police horses, and broke down metal barriers – all while burning American flags and screaming slogans like “America Was Never Great!” and “Make America Mexico Again!”

Why violence is all liberals have left

Election Rejection: Liberal Hatred and Hypocrisy Rage in Violence Due to Biased Media | Zero Hedge
calling out the media for encouraging it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...risy-and-cliches-the-democratic-party-in-2017

Violent Rhetoric Is Terrible, But Actual Violence Is Cool

then you have people making up hate from the right to justify their behaviors against mom and dad for example
There Is No Violent Hate-Crimewave in 'Trump's America'

that one went viral and everyone at it up cause they said SEE WHY WE MUST BE VIOLENT FIRST!!! only it was a lie.

and this one is just a good study:
Left-wing v. right-wing violence

i actually appreciated the breakdown in how he does it on this page.

i'll let you tag in with examples of the right. from what i'm seeing i would say that while both sides are capable of it, the left today uses the potential "evil" of the right to justify their anger, hate and yes, violence. just the other day in texas it got heated in our gov and a R called ICE cause protestors were holding signs saying I'M ILLEGAL AND YOU CAN'T DO SHIT (more or less and the other guy said he'd put a bullet in his head - a D. which is worse, calling ICE on illegal immigrants or threatening a mans life?

tag - you're it.

Thanks, Iceberg, for the articles and examples. I see what you are saying, and I'm certainly not in agreement with those who think violence is a good response, even to bigotry. Certainly not to political rallies or college speakers. I have no intention of defending that.
There are plenty of examples of the Right's violent rhetoric and promotion of violence, but once again you are asking me to argue a side here, and I'm not going to.
My position is and has been that the right should not be using the left as an excuse for violence. The left should not be using violence either, or promoting or excusing it.
Maybe one of the Dyed Blue Democrats on here will jump in and continue this discussion, but I'm not wading through a bunch of Right sites looking for examples. I do appreciate that you did that for me, though.
Thanks again.

well i agree 100% that the right should not use their violence as an excuse for your own. never said they should, never said it was right.

i merely said it was human nature and some will. again - not taking a side - either side - i'm more like an NFL announcer calling a game and just trying to see what is going on.

and all i did was google "examples of violence from the left" and found the examples in 2 pages. i can take out left and put in right to compare but a hot issue just came into work and damn it - gotta work.

 

[iceberg]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

except when CNN says "bad form" - you won't hear much from the fanatical left.

 

[irosie91]

left and right designations should be discarded as PASSE'

Why?

Originally-----or so I was told----in school, the designation of "RIGHT" politics was based on
the fact in some European country (great Britain) ---the "NOBLES" sat on the right side
of isle in political discussion and the "CLERGY" sat on the Left-------and the clergy favored
doing good stuff for the masses like lowering taxes and not hanging them for catching
a duck for supper. Thus Right referred to rich bastards who liked the status quo-----and
Left referred to the nice guys who wanted social justice. ------------that meaning is totally
gone

Okay, but that has nothing to do with what we have today.

right-----(not left) ---right----and it has nothing to do with what we called "RIGHT" vs
"LEFT" in 1960 either The designation has no PERSISTENT denotation or
connotaton

 

[gipper]

When the Left commits violence, the DNC media minimizes reporting it. When the right commits violence, the DNC media maximizes reporting it. They often lie about the causes of the violence in an effort to condemn those on the right.

To this day, Matthew Sheppard is believed to have been murdered by homophobes. A total lie fabricated by the DNC media. The murder of Trayvon by Zimmerman was promoted by the DNC media as a right winger gone nuts. Another lie....but dummies like Old Crotch, get easily duped every time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both sides have outliers who use violence: witness the knife killer in Portland or Dylan Roof or the abortion clinic shooter on the right, and I am sure you can find some on the left.

Both sides do it.

Who is more prone? That would be the far right because they are violently unstable in their collective mind.

 

[gipper]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

except when CNN says "bad form" - you won't hear much from the fanatical left.

Maybe...but she will ask forgiveness and LWNJs will forgive and support her career.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both sides have outliers who use violence: witness the knife killer in Portland or Dylan Roof or the abortion clinic shooter on the right, and I am sure you can find some on the left.

Both sides do it.

Who is more prone? That would be the far right because they are violently unstable in their collective mind.

And to this day you still have the nay sayers who deny that Matthew Sheppard was killed by anyone other than homophobes: the DNC, the Mexican mafia, Martians, anyone.

 

[gipper]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

except when CNN says "bad form" - you won't hear much from the fanatical left.

Maybe...but she will ask forgiveness and LWNJs will forgive and support her career.

Merely a publicity stunt...and I bet it will work to generate income for her.

 

[irosie91]

When the Left commits violence, the DNC media minimizes reporting it. When the right commits violence, the DNC media maximizes reporting it. They often lie about the causes of the violence in an effort to condemn those on the right.

To this day, Matthew Sheppard is believed to have been murdered by homophones. A total lie fabricated by the DNC media. The murder of Trayvon by Zimmerman was promoted by the DNC media as a right winger gone nuts. Another lie....but dummies like Old Crotch, get easily duped every time.

ok I still do not see the USEFULNESS of this GREAT DIVIDE. There are still sane democrats.
The problem lies with the CURRENT LEADERSHIP OF THE DONKEY------hellcat did this stuff to us----
and Bernie is a joke. The "DNC MEDIA"???

 

[gipper]

Both sides have outliers who use violence: witness the knife killer in Portland or Dylan Roof or the abortion clinic shooter on the right, and I am sure you can find some on the left.

Both sides do it.

Who is more prone? That would be the far right because they are violently unstable in their collective mind.

And to this day you still have the nay sayers who deny that Matthew Sheppard was killed by anyone other than homophobes: the DNC, the Mexican mafia, Martians, anyone.

What did I just post Jake?

 

[JakeStarkey]

When the Left commits violence, the DNC media minimizes reporting it. When the right commits violence, the DNC media maximizes reporting it. They often lie about the causes of the violence in an effort to condemn those on the right.

To this day, Matthew Sheppard is believed to have been murdered by homophones. A total lie fabricated by the DNC media. The murder of Trayvon by Zimmerman was promoted by the DNC media as a right winger gone nuts. Another lie....but dummies like Old Crotch, get easily duped every time.

ok I still do not see the USEFULNESS of this GREAT DIVIDE. There are still sane democrats.
The problem lies with the CURRENT LEADERSHIP OF THE DONKEY------hellcat did this stuff to us----
and Bernie is a joke. The "DNC MEDIA"???

The leadership of both parties is deranged.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both sides have outliers who use violence: witness the knife killer in Portland or Dylan Roof or the abortion clinic shooter on the right, and I am sure you can find some on the left.

Both sides do it.

Who is more prone? That would be the far right because they are violently unstable in their collective mind.

And to this day you still have the nay sayers who deny that Matthew Sheppard was killed by anyone other than homophobes: the DNC, the Mexican mafia, Martians, anyone.

What did I just post Jake?

Educate yourself, gip, I am going to the gym.

 

[gipper]

When the Left commits violence, the DNC media minimizes reporting it. When the right commits violence, the DNC media maximizes reporting it. They often lie about the causes of the violence in an effort to condemn those on the right.

To this day, Matthew Sheppard is believed to have been murdered by homophones. A total lie fabricated by the DNC media. The murder of Trayvon by Zimmerman was promoted by the DNC media as a right winger gone nuts. Another lie....but dummies like Old Crotch, get easily duped every time.

ok I still do not see the USEFULNESS of this GREAT DIVIDE. There are still sane democrats.
The problem lies with the CURRENT LEADERSHIP OF THE DONKEY------hellcat did this stuff to us----
and Bernie is a joke. The "DNC MEDIA"???

About 95% of the MSM media is in collusion with D party. It is likely the D party gets it's marching orders from the MSM.

I believe the MSM is responsible for much of the division in the nation, because of their dishonest left wing reporting.

 

[gipper]

Both sides have outliers who use violence: witness the knife killer in Portland or Dylan Roof or the abortion clinic shooter on the right, and I am sure you can find some on the left.

Both sides do it.

Who is more prone? That would be the far right because they are violently unstable in their collective mind.

And to this day you still have the nay sayers who deny that Matthew Sheppard was killed by anyone other than homophobes: the DNC, the Mexican mafia, Martians, anyone.

What did I just post Jake?

Educate yourself, gip, I am going to the gym.

I bet you can't lift more than 5 lbs.

 

[OldLady]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

What a fucked up liar you are.

Chelsea Clinton: Kathy Griffin's Trump-beheading photo ‘vile and wrong'

Chelsea Clinton on Tuesday criticized Kathy Griffin for a “vile” photo of the comedian posing with a fake decapitated head resembling President Trump.

“This is vile and wrong,” Clinton tweeted. “It is never funny to joke about killing the president.”

I saw CNN this a.m. for just a couple minutes, and they were condemning it and "reviewing the contract they have with Griffin for the New Year's Eve shows"
NOBODY thinks this was appropriate, at least not that I've heard. Someone should ask Rightwinger

 

[iceberg]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

What a fucked up liar you are.

Chelsea Clinton: Kathy Griffin's Trump-beheading photo ‘vile and wrong'

Chelsea Clinton on Tuesday criticized Kathy Griffin for a “vile” photo of the comedian posing with a fake decapitated head resembling President Trump.

“This is vile and wrong,” Clinton tweeted. “It is never funny to joke about killing the president.”

I saw CNN this a.m. for just a couple minutes, and they were condemning it and "reviewing the contract they have with Griffin for the New Year's Eve shows"
NOBODY thinks this was appropriate, at least not that I've heard. Someone should ask Rightwinger

everything i've seen has slapped it down. kinda comforting to see people back away from the edge.

 

[gipper]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

What a fucked up liar you are.

Chelsea Clinton: Kathy Griffin's Trump-beheading photo ‘vile and wrong'

Chelsea Clinton on Tuesday criticized Kathy Griffin for a “vile” photo of the comedian posing with a fake decapitated head resembling President Trump.

“This is vile and wrong,” Clinton tweeted. “It is never funny to joke about killing the president.”

I saw CNN this a.m. for just a couple minutes, and they were condemning it and "reviewing the contract they have with Griffin for the New Year's Eve shows"
NOBODY thinks this was appropriate, at least not that I've heard. Someone should ask Rightwinger

No one is going to say this is appropriate.

Just watch what happens to her career. If she gets invited on left wing media outlets, we will know.

 

[BULLDOG]

I rest my case........

I REST MY CASE.

 

[OldLady]

I rest my case........

she is taking a beating from this one. even chelsea is ripping her a new one. when CNN calls you out - you went way too far.

now of course fanatical conservatives are saying OFF WITH HER JOB and they need to cut that shit out. let CNN or any org do what they want wtih their employees in their own manner. i'm long since sick and tired of people demanding jobs because someone did something you didn't like.

I bet her actions will help her sagging career. LWNJs love it. Do doubt she did this solely to benefit herself.

Are LWNJs so easily duped?

What a fucked up liar you are.

Chelsea Clinton: Kathy Griffin's Trump-beheading photo ‘vile and wrong'

Chelsea Clinton on Tuesday criticized Kathy Griffin for a “vile” photo of the comedian posing with a fake decapitated head resembling President Trump.

“This is vile and wrong,” Clinton tweeted. “It is never funny to joke about killing the president.”

I saw CNN this a.m. for just a couple minutes, and they were condemning it and "reviewing the contract they have with Griffin for the New Year's Eve shows"
NOBODY thinks this was appropriate, at least not that I've heard. Someone should ask Rightwinger

No one is going to say this is appropriate.

Just watch what happens to her career. If she gets invited on left wing media outlets, we will know.

It's not going to happen.