Virginia to lower unemployment payments

[Katzndogz]

True, if you consider the growing divide between rich and poor a "good thing".

It isn't a divide that's causing a problem. That comes from poverty being so comfortable that no one ever need move out of poverty. There will always be "poor". In a land of billionaires, mere millionaires would have to live in poverty. To most of the world, our poor are those millionaires. A divide between rich and poor is always a good thing. Otherwise there is never a reason to get out of poverty. Our problem, and the problem in Japan, is that poverty has become so comfortable that there isn't a reason to get out of poverty. It's not the divide, the curve isn't sharp enough. Poverty should be painful. It should be so painful that no one would willingly live in poverty.

You make it sound so simple when the world's economy has been in it's worst recession in a hundred years.

BTW, there are that many jobs that pay a living wage in this country, anymore, after most of the unions have been busted, since Reagan.

When the unions go, everyone does better. Unions have outlived their usefulness and should take an honorable place in history, like the bustle.

The world's economy is in a recession because the welfare state is no longer sustainable. It is not realistic to expect that 1% can support the remaining 99% in cradle to grave retirement.

 

[Snookie]

It isn't a divide that's causing a problem. That comes from poverty being so comfortable that no one ever need move out of poverty. There will always be "poor". In a land of billionaires, mere millionaires would have to live in poverty. To most of the world, our poor are those millionaires. A divide between rich and poor is always a good thing. Otherwise there is never a reason to get out of poverty. Our problem, and the problem in Japan, is that poverty has become so comfortable that there isn't a reason to get out of poverty. It's not the divide, the curve isn't sharp enough. Poverty should be painful. It should be so painful that no one would willingly live in poverty.

You make it sound so simple when the world's economy has been in it's worst recession in a hundred years.

BTW, there are that many jobs that pay a living wage in this country, anymore, after most of the unions have been busted, since Reagan.

When the unions go, everyone does better. Unions have outlived their usefulness and should take an honorable place in history, like the bustle.

The world's economy is in a recession because the welfare state is no longer sustainable. It is not realistic to expect that 1% can support the remaining 99% in cradle to grave retirement.

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

 

[Katzndogz]

Or, perhaps, executive salary caps.

It's about time someone started showing some fiscal sanity. When we get to the point where CEOs earn seven figure salaries, while funding politicians to lower the minimum wage and cut welfare, it's time to put in place executive salary caps.

Apples and oranges.... it is of no concern to you if the owners (shareholders) of Exxon/Mobile want to pay the CEO $25,000,00+ a year... it's not taxpayer $$...

That's fair, but it's a concern of the workforce as a whole. What needs to happen is a cultural shift where those that hold up the country are given precedence over those that simply hold intellectual property, or a business degree.

The holder of intellectual property can employ 1,000 people. When those 1,000 people would sit on their asses waiting for someone to tell them what to do.

 

[Blooper]

It isn't a divide that's causing a problem. That comes from poverty being so comfortable that no one ever need move out of poverty. There will always be "poor". In a land of billionaires, mere millionaires would have to live in poverty. To most of the world, our poor are those millionaires. A divide between rich and poor is always a good thing. Otherwise there is never a reason to get out of poverty. Our problem, and the problem in Japan, is that poverty has become so comfortable that there isn't a reason to get out of poverty. It's not the divide, the curve isn't sharp enough. Poverty should be painful. It should be so painful that no one would willingly live in poverty.

You make it sound so simple when the world's economy has been in it's worst recession in a hundred years.

BTW, there are that many jobs that pay a living wage in this country, anymore, after most of the unions have been busted, since Reagan.

When the unions go, everyone does better. Unions have outlived their usefulness and should take an honorable place in history, like the bustle.

The world's economy is in a recession because the welfare state is no longer sustainable. It is not realistic to expect that 1% can support the remaining 99% in cradle to grave retirement.

You do realize that the labor allows the entire economy to function, right? It's the workers that are supporting the 1%, not the other way around.

 

[Blooper]

Apples and oranges.... it is of no concern to you if the owners (shareholders) of Exxon/Mobile want to pay the CEO $25,000,00+ a year... it's not taxpayer $$...

That's fair, but it's a concern of the workforce as a whole. What needs to happen is a cultural shift where those that hold up the country are given precedence over those that simply hold intellectual property, or a business degree.

The holder of intellectual property can employ 1,000 people. When those 1,000 people would sit on their asses waiting for someone to tell them what to do.

Are you familiar with the events following Argentina's bankruptcy? Well, simply, when workers were left up to their own devices, they took over empty factories and continued producing.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Japan is doing it.

Welfare benefits will be slashed by ¥74 billion over a three-year period starting from fiscal 2013, after a government panel found that some people are making more on the dole than the average low-income person who is not spends on living costs, it was learned Sunday.

It's about time someone started showing some fiscal sanity. When we get to the point where welfare pays more than working, it's time to lower welfare.

Or, perhaps, executive salary caps.

It's about time someone started showing some fiscal sanity. When we get to the point where CEOs earn seven figure salaries, while funding politicians to lower the minimum wage and cut welfare, it's time to put in place executive salary caps.

Good thing nothing in the consitution supports the governments ability to do that. The only mechanism you would have would be to impose that on government contractors.

Actually under the 10th Amendment, State governments could cap CEO salaries for companies within their states.

Not all governments = Federal.


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[Snookie]

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

It's all related to the general discussion about the exploitation of the american worker at the hands of the rich.

It's about sharing the pain equally.

 

[Blooper]

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

It's all related to the general discussion about the exploitation of the american worker at the hands of the rich.

It's about sharing the pain equally.

While I don't take nearly as hard line a stance, you're right in saying that. Throughout history, the struggle between rich and poor, the worker and the business owner, has been one of the most brutal to ever occur.

 

[Snookie]

It's been going on since the Source.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Or, perhaps, executive salary caps.

It's about time someone started showing some fiscal sanity. When we get to the point where CEOs earn seven figure salaries, while funding politicians to lower the minimum wage and cut welfare, it's time to put in place executive salary caps.

Apples and oranges.... it is of no concern to you if the owners (shareholders) of Exxon/Mobile want to pay the CEO $25,000,00+ a year... it's not taxpayer $$...

How about the oil depreciation allowance that is corporate welfare?

While I agree that gov support of industry sucks..GE ..cough,cough..
At least those companies supply jobs and benefit society.
While those sitting at home collecting unemployment are just a drain.

So in actuality everyone benefits from corporate welfare.
Not that I like it....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

It's all related to the general discussion about the exploitation of the american worker at the hands of the rich.

It's about sharing the pain equally.

And that's because we are war mongers?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Actually under the 10th Amendment, State governments could cap CEO salaries for companies within their states.

Not all governments = Federal.


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The Tenth Amendment that the courts pretty much pretend doesn't exist? Okay, sure.

Assuming you're correct, a state that would do such a thing would likely find itself dealing with an upheaval of businesses and jobs across the state line.

 

[WillowTree]

Go ahead, blame it on the underdogs and not the greedy and the war mongers.

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

It's all related to the general discussion about the exploitation of the american worker at the hands of the rich.

It's about sharing the pain equally.

Victimhood again? NO one forces you to work in America for evil rich white people.. Move or start your own damn business. Ever thought of that? I hear they need workers in china.

 

[WillowTree]

Actually under the 10th Amendment, State governments could cap CEO salaries for companies within their states.

Not all governments = Federal.


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The Tenth Amendment that the courts pretty much pretend doesn't exist? Okay, sure.

Assuming you're correct, a state that would do such a thing would likely find itself dealing with an upheaval of businesses and jobs across the state line.

A state that would do such a thing would likely find unemployment around 30%.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Actually under the 10th Amendment, State governments could cap CEO salaries for companies within their states.

Not all governments = Federal.


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The Tenth Amendment that the courts pretty much pretend doesn't exist? Okay, sure.

Assuming you're correct, a state that would do such a thing would likely find itself dealing with an upheaval of businesses and jobs across the state line.

Oh, sure, I totally agree.

However, they could do it under state law where they can't under federal law.


I didn't say it made sense or would make people happy.


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[Snookie]

Everyone is at fault from top to bottom, but I fail to see what war mongering has to do with North Carolina lowering its unemployment payments, which was the topic of this thread.

It's all related to the general discussion about the exploitation of the american worker at the hands of the rich.

It's about sharing the pain equally.

And that's because we are war mongers?

What do you mean by "we", white boy?

 

[WillowTree]

I'm going to give you a second clue. If demon craps keep extending unemployment to the moon it's going to be lowered a lot more. some day soon you'll be forced to get your lips off obama's ass and go to work.

 

[Snookie]

I'm going to give you a second clue. If demon craps keep extending unemployment to the moon it's going to be lowered a lot more. some day soon you'll be forced to get your lips off obama's ass and go to work.

Obama be president, got the power, you insignificant, don't mater, hater, we pwn you, WT. LOL.

 

[tjvh]

Unemployment shouldn't be treated as income to live on... It's meant to allow you some necessities, like food and shelter so you can get up off your ass and go out and actively find a job.