Voting Republican this term may end up changing the US Constitution to help the Far Right ideas

[Papageorgio]

What were the Democrats supposed to have done, when Roe vs Wade was set as the Law of the Land, as a Constitutional Right?

Codify? I do not remember Republicans ever saying that they were going to stop the Democrats from codifying Roe, it never became an issue.


Roe only became a problem when the Supreme Court got six Judges appointed, one of them nor fairly as Garland or another Democrat appointed should have been allowed to go through the Senate hearings and was not allowed.


So, the Republican have got their way for now. The future is ahead.

Since Roe v Wade, Democrats have said Republicans were a threat to end it. They used it in the 70's, 80's 90's and on into the next century and always hand wringing that it was in trouble if you let Republicans in charge, so for 50 years they worried about it, said it would be overturned and used it as a wedge issue for 50 years, so either they are really dumb and should not be elected or they are dishonest and should not be elected. Which is it?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Since Roe v Wade, Democrats have said Republicans were a threat to end it. They used it in the 70's, 80's 90's and on into the next century and always hand wringing that it was in trouble if you let Republicans in charge, so for 50 years they worried about it, said it would be overturned and used it as a wedge issue for 50 years, so either they are really dumb and should not be elected or they are dishonest and should not be elected. Which is it?

[Lots of Republican women are pro choice. The problem is that some who are in the Senate, do not realize when the SC Candidate are nothing but liars, or ignore their lies so that they will be appointed]



Throughout Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination process, Senator Susan Collins intentionally misled the public by saying that Kavanaugh did not pose a threat to Roe v. Wade’s protections for women and families. Yet, Kavanaugh’s dissent, in one of his first abortion cases, the recent June Medical Services v. Gee makes clear his intent to wage war on Roe.

It only took Kavanaugh four months into his lifetime appointment on the bench to prove that Susan Collins’ insistence that he would respect precedent was a complete lie. And now, she must own that, and answer to the millions of people in this country (and the vast majority who support Roe) who thought they could count on her to keep her word on her commitment to preserving Roe.

Susan Collins Intentionally Misled the Public about Kavanaugh: She Must be Held Accountable for Kavanaugh’s War on Roe - NARAL Pro-Choice America

We are made up of pro-choice women and men across the United States. Together, we protect a woman's right to choose.

www.prochoiceamerica.org

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

The one person most responsible for the looming loss of abortion rights—aside from the president who appointed three anti-Roe justices—is Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins, who in October of 2018 became the 50th and deciding vote in the Senate for Brett Kavanaugh. He would not have been confirmed if it weren’t for Collins, who wanted women to believe as she did that he would keep his word to her.

He did not.

Susan Collins Told American Women to Trust Her to Protect Roe. She Lied.

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

www.thedailybeast.com

[Either way, Republican Women AND Men, are mad.

Who will they vote for? Stay tuned.

Democrats did nothing?

These Republicans did everything to keep Roe from being Codified. And in the end, Susan Collins showed her colors about Roe:]

Republicans in the Senate blocked a national abortion rights bill which aimed to codify the right to abortion in the U.S. at a federal level.

The bill, pushed forward by Democrats as a protest gesture against revelations that the Supreme Court is seemingly preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade, needed to reach a 60-vote threshold to pass, but it failed to do so, as was widely expected.

The vote was opposed by 51 senators, with only 49 votes in favor—falling considerably short of the necessary threshold.

The measure was unanimously opposed by all Republican senators, who were joined by one Democrat, Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia.

Eight women were among the 50 Republican senators who voted to oppose abortion becoming enshrined in federal law: Senator Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith of Mississippi, Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Senator Susan Collins of Maine.

These 8 Republican Women Voted Against Codifying Roe v. Wade | Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith

www.hydesmith.senate.gov

 

[Oddball]

[Lots of Republican women are pro choice. The problem is that some who are in the Senate, do not realize when the SC Candidate are nothing but liars, or ignore their lies so that they will be appointed]



Throughout Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination process, Senator Susan Collins intentionally misled the public by saying that Kavanaugh did not pose a threat to Roe v. Wade’s protections for women and families. Yet, Kavanaugh’s dissent, in one of his first abortion cases, the recent June Medical Services v. Gee makes clear his intent to wage war on Roe.

It only took Kavanaugh four months into his lifetime appointment on the bench to prove that Susan Collins’ insistence that he would respect precedent was a complete lie. And now, she must own that, and answer to the millions of people in this country (and the vast majority who support Roe) who thought they could count on her to keep her word on her commitment to preserving Roe.

Susan Collins Intentionally Misled the Public about Kavanaugh: She Must be Held Accountable for Kavanaugh’s War on Roe - NARAL Pro-Choice America

We are made up of pro-choice women and men across the United States. Together, we protect a woman's right to choose.

www.prochoiceamerica.org

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

The one person most responsible for the looming loss of abortion rights—aside from the president who appointed three anti-Roe justices—is Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins, who in October of 2018 became the 50th and deciding vote in the Senate for Brett Kavanaugh. He would not have been confirmed if it weren’t for Collins, who wanted women to believe as she did that he would keep his word to her.

He did not.

Susan Collins Told American Women to Trust Her to Protect Roe. She Lied.

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

www.thedailybeast.com

[Either way, Republican Women AND Men, are mad.

Who will they vote for? Stay tuned.

Democrats did nothing?

These Republicans did everything to keep Roe from being Codified. And in the end, Susan Collins showed her colors about Roe:]

Republicans in the Senate blocked a national abortion rights bill which aimed to codify the right to abortion in the U.S. at a federal level.

The bill, pushed forward by Democrats as a protest gesture against revelations that the Supreme Court is seemingly preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade, needed to reach a 60-vote threshold to pass, but it failed to do so, as was widely expected.

The vote was opposed by 51 senators, with only 49 votes in favor—falling considerably short of the necessary threshold.

The measure was unanimously opposed by all Republican senators, who were joined by one Democrat, Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia.

Eight women were among the 50 Republican senators who voted to oppose abortion becoming enshrined in federal law: Senator Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith of Mississippi, Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Senator Susan Collins of Maine.

These 8 Republican Women Voted Against Codifying Roe v. Wade | Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith

www.hydesmith.senate.gov

 

[NotfooledbyW]

No

That’s the kind of argument I expect from a MAGA crazy Authoritarian control freak

 

[Billiejeens]

What were the Democrats supposed to have done, when Roe vs Wade was set as the Law of the Land, as a Constitutional Right?

Codify? I do not remember Republicans ever saying that they were going to stop the Democrats from codifying Roe, it never became an issue.


Roe only became a problem when the Supreme Court got six Judges appointed, one of them nor fairly as Garland or another Democrat appointed should have been allowed to go through the Senate hearings and was not allowed.


So, the Republican have got their way for now. The future is ahead.

You are just extremely ignorant.
The fringe went around making a law the proper way in 1973.
They knew that anyone who voted to not hold accountable a woman who killed her own baby would never get reelected.
In most of the country not that much has changed.
Bill Clinton coined safe, legal and rare.
The fringe groups went from that to
celebrate - the later in term and the more often the better.
Even most people who consider themselves Pro-choice find today's attitude abhorrent.

 

[Billiejeens]

That’s the kind of argument I expect from a MAGA crazy Authoritarian control freak

You are another one who is simply extremely ignorant.

 

[Papageorgio]

[Lots of Republican women are pro choice. The problem is that some who are in the Senate, do not realize when the SC Candidate are nothing but liars, or ignore their lies so that they will be appointed]



Throughout Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination process, Senator Susan Collins intentionally misled the public by saying that Kavanaugh did not pose a threat to Roe v. Wade’s protections for women and families. Yet, Kavanaugh’s dissent, in one of his first abortion cases, the recent June Medical Services v. Gee makes clear his intent to wage war on Roe.

It only took Kavanaugh four months into his lifetime appointment on the bench to prove that Susan Collins’ insistence that he would respect precedent was a complete lie. And now, she must own that, and answer to the millions of people in this country (and the vast majority who support Roe) who thought they could count on her to keep her word on her commitment to preserving Roe.

Susan Collins Intentionally Misled the Public about Kavanaugh: She Must be Held Accountable for Kavanaugh’s War on Roe - NARAL Pro-Choice America

We are made up of pro-choice women and men across the United States. Together, we protect a woman's right to choose.

www.prochoiceamerica.org

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

The one person most responsible for the looming loss of abortion rights—aside from the president who appointed three anti-Roe justices—is Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins, who in October of 2018 became the 50th and deciding vote in the Senate for Brett Kavanaugh. He would not have been confirmed if it weren’t for Collins, who wanted women to believe as she did that he would keep his word to her.

He did not.

Susan Collins Told American Women to Trust Her to Protect Roe. She Lied.

A constitutional right that has been in place for 50 years is about to be shattered on the wing of a promise to her that predictably turned out to be a lie.

www.thedailybeast.com

[Either way, Republican Women AND Men, are mad.

Who will they vote for? Stay tuned.

Democrats did nothing?

These Republicans did everything to keep Roe from being Codified. And in the end, Susan Collins showed her colors about Roe:]

Republicans in the Senate blocked a national abortion rights bill which aimed to codify the right to abortion in the U.S. at a federal level.

The bill, pushed forward by Democrats as a protest gesture against revelations that the Supreme Court is seemingly preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade, needed to reach a 60-vote threshold to pass, but it failed to do so, as was widely expected.

The vote was opposed by 51 senators, with only 49 votes in favor—falling considerably short of the necessary threshold.

The measure was unanimously opposed by all Republican senators, who were joined by one Democrat, Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia.

Eight women were among the 50 Republican senators who voted to oppose abortion becoming enshrined in federal law: Senator Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith of Mississippi, Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Senator Susan Collins of Maine.

These 8 Republican Women Voted Against Codifying Roe v. Wade | Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith

www.hydesmith.senate.gov

So once fifty years later, they were really concerned weren't they.

 

[Sixties Fan]

So once fifty years later, they were really concerned weren't they.

If that is how you wish to look at it.

I prefer that the Extremist Republicans chose to do it on the hide, and with all the dark money pouring in, they finally succeeded in getting what they wanted. Money talks.

For now.

 

[Batcat]

So, a Conservative newspaper prints that the Democrats are lying, projecting......if Conservatives say so, it must be true, right?

The Washington Times - Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › The_Washington_Times

The Washington Times is an American conservative daily newspaper published in Washington, D.C., that covers general interest topics with a particular ...

You are projecting that the Democrats are projecting, which is what the Republicans have been doing for the past 20 years.

But nice try.

But you will quote a liberal newspaper or internet outlet like it only publishes God’s truth.

Most of your sources stated the story about Trump hiring prostitutes to pee on a Moscows hotel bed was factual. That fiction came from the Steele Dossier

So I will publish an article from the New York Post which you of course will claim as unreliable as it is conservative.

The Steele dossier’s tawdry, absurd and fake ‘sources’

We’ve known for some time, thanks to the efforts of special counsel John Durham, that the Steele dossier was a Clinton-camp fabrication.

nypost.com

Now the New York Times admits the Steele Dossier was false. (I would use a link to the New York Times but they hide behind a paywall and I refuse to pay to read false garbage.)

NYT admits Steele Dossier as fake - BLiTZ

The New York Times was a major promoter of the now debunked Trump-Russia election conspiracy narrative, which featured the infamous Steele Dossier of outlandish and salacious claims about President Trump. Writes Art Moore Republican investigators turned up evidence that the document compiled by...

www.weeklyblitz.net

The New York Post was also right on the Hunter Biden laptop from hell story. The liberal media was running around claiming that story was just Russian disinformation.

MSN

www.msn.com

I dare you to watch this video. I doubt if you will as if you do it will be hard to avoid admitting your wonderful liberal media lies to you. However since you are a good sheeple I am sure you can convince yourself your liberal news media was right even though they now admit they were wrong.



Fox News told me Hunter Biden’s computer was the real thing right off. That’s why I listen to conservative media. Conservative media also told me Trump did not collude with Putin and the Steele Dossier was paid for by the DNC and Hillary and once again it was right.

 

[Sixties Fan]

But you will quote a liberal newspaper or internet outlet like it only publishes God’s truth.

Most of your sources stated the story about Trump hiring prostitutes to pee on a Moscows hotel bed was factual. That fiction came from the Steele Dossier

So I will publish an article from the New York Post which you of course will claim as unreliable as it is conservative.

The Steele dossier’s tawdry, absurd and fake ‘sources’

We’ve known for some time, thanks to the efforts of special counsel John Durham, that the Steele dossier was a Clinton-camp fabrication.

nypost.com

Now the New York Times admits the Steele Dossier was false. (I would use a link to the New York Times but they hide behind a paywall and I refuse to pay to read false garbage.)

NYT admits Steele Dossier as fake - BLiTZ

The New York Times was a major promoter of the now debunked Trump-Russia election conspiracy narrative, which featured the infamous Steele Dossier of outlandish and salacious claims about President Trump. Writes Art Moore Republican investigators turned up evidence that the document compiled by...

www.weeklyblitz.net

The New York Post was also right on the Hunter Biden laptop from hell story. The liberal media was running around claiming that story was just Russian disinformation.

MSN

www.msn.com

I dare you to watch this video. I doubt if you will as if you do it will be hard to avoid admitting your wonderful liberal media lies to you. However since you are a good sheeple I am sure you can convince yourself your liberal news media was right even though they now admit they were wrong.



Fox News told me Hunter Biden’s computer was the real thing right off. That’s why I listen to conservative media. Conservative media also told me Trump did not collude with Putin and the Steele Dossier was paid for by the DNC and Hillary and once again it was right.

You are another MAGA crazy Republican.

Just vote.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You are another one who is simply extremely ignorant

The fringe went around making a law the proper way in 1973

That is a religious right propaganda attack on any one outside the white evangelical Christian flock who is not pro-choice being labeled as the fringe.

There was nothing improper about the Decision in 1973 because the abortion procedure is not addressed in the Constitution nor is the concept of fetal personhood having your constitutional rights equal to the mother prior to birth.

Because the constitution itself is silent on the matter, a right is a right and it is the duty of the court to protect the citizen from being harmed or imposed upon by the government. That is our individual right and contract with the government when giving a consent to be governed. The decision was based on the concept of viability and it is a good decision because if a woman doesn’t want to carry a pregnancy to full-term that decision could easily be made prior to 28 weeks. The idea That voters in a state must have the right to decide what a woman does during pregnancy is the most absurd and fundamentally unconstitutional idea that could be dreamed up. It’s a disgrace the Catholic dominated supreme court has the gall to impose their religious beliefs on pregnant women Using the excuse that an non- activist and non Catholic religion dominated court 50 years ago made a mistake. It’s disgusting. And Trump is responsible for making it happen.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So once fifty years later, they were really concerned weren't they.

See my post #451 - Concern was not necessary.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So once fifty years later, they were really concerned weren't they

Since you do agree a pregnant woman has a right to terminate her own pregnancy it makes no difference that the right is not mentioned in the Constitution - she has a natural right to control her own body. Roe V Wade should not have been necessary but since it was settled law there is no justification for taking a natural right away by striking down Roe on the religious right phony conjured up bullshit states rights issue.

There was no reason for pro-choice Americans to be concerned because Supreme Court Justices are expected to stick to the law and when the law is not addressed in the Constitution, they are duty bound to protect the law abiding individual from coercion on matters of conscience from the Government.

Why do you disagree with that Papageorgio ?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Democrats and Republicans don’t give a damn about abortion

NFBW: Notwithstanding your cynical and absurd conclusion as quoted above, you have yet to answer which Party do you believe right now and moving forward, will protect a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy if that is her choice?
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[Westender]

Are you Impressed with a first term president who lost in a landslide, lied that he won as part of a plot to stay in the White House, but the plot failed because Pence refused to commit fraud, so he incited his mob to assault the Capitol and then sat and watched and did nothing to stop the attack,

I was impressed by a Trump economy on steroids and everybody with half a brain knew that the economy would go to crap once Biden came in. As soon as DeSantis takes over it will be back

 

[Godboy]

Much of the income is dark money, with the origins hidden. CMD has managed to identify some key donors – among them the Mercer Family Foundation set up by reclusive hedge fund manager Robert Mercer, and a couple of groups run by Leonard Leo, the mastermind behind the rightwing land grab in the federal courts.

More than $1m (£880,265) has also been donated in the form of Bitcoin.

The attraction to these groups and donors of pursuing a states route to rewriting the US constitution is easily explained. Over the past 12 years, since the eruption of the Tea Party in 2010, Republican activists have deployed extreme partisan gerrymandering to pull off an extraordinary takeover of state legislatures.

Bannon is not finished: his ‘precinct strategy’ could alter US elections for years
Read more
In 2010, Republicans controlled both chambers of just 14 state legislatures. Today, that number stands at 31.

“Republicans are near the high watermark in terms of their political control in the states, and that’s why the pro-Trump rightwing of the party is increasingly embracing the constitutional convention strategy,” said Arn Pearson, CMD’s executive director.

Should a convention be achieved, the plan would be to give states one vote each. There is no legal or historical basis for such an arrangement but its appeal is self-evident.

Inside Steve Bannonâs âdisturbingâ quest to radically rewrite the US constitution

By taking over state legislatures, Republicans hope to pass conservative amendments that cannot be electorally challenged

www.theguardian.com

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This is serious. The Far Right are basically religious extremists and others with extremists views to change the politics of the US to the way they want it, keeping all other Parties from possibly ever achieving the passing of Human and Civil Rights or the Presidency again.

Voting for the Republicans thinking they will improve people's economy, etc, is only giving them the tools to achieve all of their goals.


Voting in 2022, and possibly in 2024, for economic reasons only, is not the way the voters will hopefully go.


Without our Human and Civil Rights in place by law, the economic costs do become higher to most people who cannot afford paying certain health issues, etc. Discriminations of all kinds, Racism, Homophobia, and many other forms only grow.
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Since Trump took office in January 2017, his administration has worked aggressively to turn back the clock on our nation’s civil and human rights progress. Here’s how.

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

Documenting the Trump administration’s across-the-board assault on civil and human rights.

civilrights.org

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Do the proper research. There is still time before November 8.

Please, do not vote only based on economy, inflation and crime, which Republicans are allegedly said to be good at. Think about where voting Republican could possibly lead this country into in a few years.

There are a lot of Billionaires and others who want the Republicans in power, so that they will continue to do what they are used to doing, which is not care about the population, about climate change, people's health, voting rights, etc.

Republicans want an end to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. Can anyone afford to not have any of those if they need it, as the first two they receive them by right after a certain age?

Republicans, the PARTY which TAKES, and TAKES AWAY from the population. And give mostly to those who already have a lot of everything.

Think, before voting. Thank you.

Well maybe your shit party should have thought about that before wrecking everything in our country, just as we warned would happen when you did your green idiocy, weaponizing the DOJ, Bidens oil policies, government censorship, and defunding the police. Elections have consequences, you fucking dimwit.

 

[Batcat]

You are another MAGA crazy Republican.

Just vote.

Of course I will vote. You do the same.

 

[Papageorgio]

NFBW: Notwithstanding your cynical and absurd conclusion as quoted above, you have yet to answer which Party do you believe right now and moving forward, will protect a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy if that is her choice?
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I see neither party as protecting women’s rights as neither cared to solidify their position either way for 50 plus years, they use it as a political football and that has been proven.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

There is nothing so far that directly links Trump to telling the rioters to riot.

Trump is directly linked to pressuring Pence to commit fraud by recognizing the fake electors that Trump organized in seven states he knew he had lost

Trumo tweeted after the attack on the Capitol had already begun that Pence was a coward b cause he refused to do what the rioters wanted him to do. That tweet caused a major uptick in the violence directly caught on video.

Then Trump sat and watched for several hours a crowd chanting “hang Mike Pence” and did absolutely nothing to stop his mob that turned so violent and attempting to kill the VP. Because PENCE refused to commit fraud in order to stay in power.

I was impressed by a Trump economy on steroids

Do you mean Trump’s massive debt producing tax cut that produced one year at 2.9 GDP ??????

WHY WERE You impressed with that?

According to Trump 2.9 is anemic and weak.

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

LET ME REPEAT . . . .

According to Trump 2.9 is anemic and weak.

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.​

Trump had one peak year at 2.9 GDP AND Then slowed down so much in 2019 that talk of recession hitting during 2020 (an election years) was going around before COVID hit the inept and fucked up Trump Administration and devastated the economy as we all know.


SO you were equally as impressed with Obama’s 2.9 Yearly GDP economy if you were that impressed with Trump’s one time being able to match OBama’s record.?

IS THAT SO?


L let me take you back to 2019

The economy is currently ‘Failed’ according to TrumpO.

Why are TrumpOroids so massively impressed with TrumpO’s 2.9 GDP banner year but continue to demean the same from Obama as pitiful and weak?

END2210250437

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I see neither party as protecting women’s rights as neither cared to solidify their position either way for 50 plus years,

You reply to none of my points - just the same boilerplate cynicism over the past which makes no sense at all.

What is your answer in the here and now? . Which Party actually protected women’s rights in Kansas this past summer and which Party sought to abolish them in that state?

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