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No you're missing the point. They in fact did violate the law by arresting the man for refusing to provide them with an ID or give them his name and DOB, and the dumb ass who made the arrest just cost that town a sum of money. Congrats. The idea that Im a "lib" is comical BTW.You're missing the point. But then that's common among anti-police left wingers it seems. The cops violated no law checking out an unusual and therefore possibly suspicious situation.
Naturally you have a plan to protect your loved ones that does not involve the policeNah. They're just showing us all who they really are.
They always do. Always.
At the end of the day there isn't a nickel's worth of difference between a rabid statist wearing a red helmet and a rabid statist wearing a blue helmet.
I don’t know if a dad walking with his son at 6 am would be deemed “suspicious” if the dad and kid happened to be white.
But if the cop had behaved similarly with a white guy, the conclusion remains: it results in the violation of the man’s Constitutional rights.
I don’t know. The man appeared to be a “person of color.”Nobody knows if this one was white, black or mexican? Superbad is hoping was black. But you know?
Naturally you have a plan to protect your loved ones that does not involve the police
Yes?
Speaking of being repetitious which you say my post have been. You are certainly within your rights to scroll right over them and not respond further.What was he being arrested for? And you ignored everything I said.
By your "logic" a cop can go up to anyone on the street and say "Show me your ID or I'm going to arrest you" and then later claim the person looked suspicious.
If a "Paperz Pleaze!" Police State is what you want, then that's sad, but the problem is that your cheerleading for a Police State is what is leading all of us in that direction.
And if... In this nation , of the people, for the people, and by the people; one member of society can operate under their own set of rules...The police motto is “protect and serve”
Because “what ifs” do happen
Cooperate, don’t get lippy and everything ends up fine. Police are human also. Sure we all know now, they should have let him go. He’s now officially on Police radar.
I don’t know and don’t pretend to know the man’s race. Honestly, it is a matter of indifference to meThe guy wasn't black (the OP made an error, and for some reason the title hasn't been edited.) In the photos I've seen, he looks white. And his last name (Sexton) is not a Hispanic name.
Reasonable suspicion has to be articulable and specific.You weren’t there. Before the stop. You aren’t a cop. I’ll go with the guys on the ground instincts. Not you Monday morning QB ready to demand the Police firing.
sure check them out,, just dont violate their rights and beat up an innocent father in front of his child,,Any person walking in that particular area with a small boy when it is still dark outside would be unusual enough to justify checking out. If the kid was your son and being enticed or taken unlawfully, would you not want that to be checked out?
No reason to suspect any burglary occurred. No reason to suspect the son was subject to a terrible crime.Well, if you are burglarized or your son is the target of a terrible crime, I'm sure you will maintain the same attitude that the cops have no right to question the burglar or child trafficker/molester/kidnapper until they commit the crime.
You trust the cops apparently....
I dont care of you disagree,,I disagree
There not scores of adults walking children that morning for the cop to randomly choose from
Just one
Not sure what your "plans" are... But in reality, the police are most likely to show up, after the situation has resolved itself...Naturally you have a plan to protect your loved ones that does not involve the police
Yes?
I don’t know. The man appeared to be a “person of color.”
That doesn’t really change the analysis, imho. A person has a right to be left alone in most cases. Yes, the cop is entitled to approach a person for any reason and “ask.” But absent actual probable cause, or real “exigency,” the cop is supposed to simply take “no” as an answer.
He didn't body slam him. He took him down fairly gently. And, according to my great nephew, a cop I just asked, that is routine procedure when dealing with anyone resisting arrest which the guy obviously was doing. Had the guy submitted to being cuffed as he should have done by law in all 50 states and DC, he wouldn't have been taken down.I haven't read through this entire thread but I've seen enough to state my opinion.
Yeah I think that he looked more Hispanic in my opinion.
I know. That's my issue. I know that it's important to comply with the police but this "officer" went WAY overboard and let his power get to his head.
The man was only going for a walk with his kid and the "officer" had the nerve to body slam him right in front of his son and made him cry and traumatized him. Completely unacceptable to me and unjustified and I usually have a great respect for police officers but this was most definitely uncalled for.
Yes do as your told or it's your fault whn the cops are FORCED violate your rights......Cooperate, don’t get lippy and everything ends up fine. Police are human also. Sure we all know now, they should have let him go. He’s now officially on Police radar.
Well not fine in this case, maybe the perp goes in for warrants. If he gives his real name, DOB.
Well not fine in this case, maybe the perp goes in for warrants. If he gives his real name, DOB.Cooperate, don’t get lippy and everything ends up fine. Police are human also. Sure we all know now, they should have let him go. He’s now officially on Police radar.
Well not fine in this case, maybe the perp goes in for warrants. If he gives his real name, DOB.
