Wall for strong gun control

[Polishprince]

Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

 

[Geaux4it]

 

[Polishprince]

Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's the point. Gun control only disarms the Law Abiders, and makes them sitting ducks for the criminal element.

 

[Norman]

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

BigBrain hasn't yet figured out that guns don't kill people, they simply prevent tyranny. For example when the government proposes to replace its own population by that of the third world, people march out with ARs and that's the end of that.

Meanwhile, as Irish government has proposed to do the same to keep their con going, no one can do a shit. They are screwed, good bye Ireland.

 

[Brain357]

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Lol
Frivolous gun control laws make for a weak community...

By weak you mean ones with much lower homicide rates I assume.

 

[Brain357]

Why have gun control when only impact the law abiding citizen? Criminals could care less about gun control, that's why they are criminals

-Geaux

Funny claim given how many fewer shootings there are in countries with strong gun control.

Its not a claim but a fact. Furthermore, other countries don't have a failed diversity experiment like America does

-Geaux

Not even close to a fact. Pure BS.

 

[dudmuck]

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

BigBrain hasn't yet figured out that guns don't kill people, they simply prevent tyranny. For example when the government proposes to replace its own population by that of the third world, people march out with ARs and that's the end of that.

Meanwhile, as Irish government has proposed to do the same to keep their con going, no one can do a shit. They are screwed, good bye Ireland.

You hit on it

 

[Brain357]

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's the point. Gun control only disarms the Law Abiders, and makes them sitting ducks for the criminal element.

If they are just sitting ducks, why are homicide rates in countries with gun control a small fraction of ours?

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Lots of illegal ownership guarantees lots of homicides.

 

[Brain357]

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

BigBrain hasn't yet figured out that guns don't kill people, they simply prevent tyranny. For example when the government proposes to replace its own population by that of the third world, people march out with ARs and that's the end of that.

Meanwhile, as Irish government has proposed to do the same to keep their con going, no one can do a shit. They are screwed, good bye Ireland.

Funny that the same countries with strong gun control and low homicide rates are also low on tyranny. Go figure.

 

[Norman]

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

BigBrain hasn't yet figured out that guns don't kill people, they simply prevent tyranny. For example when the government proposes to replace its own population by that of the third world, people march out with ARs and that's the end of that.

Meanwhile, as Irish government has proposed to do the same to keep their con going, no one can do a shit. They are screwed, good bye Ireland.

You hit on it

There is no dilemma of any sort.

The government builds the wall to protect the nation from 3rd world hordes who vote against American freedoms every time. This means the land that is on the border will be seized, but for a good price. If you don't like it you can always move to the other side of the border where the American freedoms don't exist.

 

[Norman]

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Law enforcement in the United States is considered pretty corrupt by the left, so how are we so much different than Mexico?

We have police reportedly going out and killing people for being black, like in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has been compared to the Nazis by distinguished leftist congresspeople.

Mexico is the biggest source of immigrants for the United States, they are importing their culture, language and cuisine here, unimpeded too, without the Wall.

Without a doubt, Mexico is the best comparison for America.

Law enforcement shoots a lot of people because they themselves are shot a lot. Neither of these things happen often in countries with strong gun control.

Plenty of people get shot in Mexico, and they have very strict gun control. Ditto in Africa, where America also has a lot of immigrants from

BigBrain hasn't yet figured out that guns don't kill people, they simply prevent tyranny. For example when the government proposes to replace its own population by that of the third world, people march out with ARs and that's the end of that.

Meanwhile, as Irish government has proposed to do the same to keep their con going, no one can do a shit. They are screwed, good bye Ireland.

Funny that the same countries with strong gun control and low homicide rates are also low on tyranny. Go figure.

The ones replacing their population with that of 3rd world as we speak?

ROFLMAO!!! Low on tyranny. You need to take a breath. Those countries have internalized tyranny, it's the way of life. 70% tax rate is theft.

 

[Polishprince]

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's the point. Gun control only disarms the Law Abiders, and makes them sitting ducks for the criminal element.

If they are just sitting ducks, why are homicide rates in countries with gun control a small fraction of ours?

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Lots of illegal ownership guarantees lots of homicides.

That's just not true. Mexico, various other nations in Africa and Latin America where we are getting most of our immigrants have much higher homicide rates and very strict gun control

 

[Preacher]

Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

So you want to trade NATIONAL SECURITY which treasonous dems refuse to fund for attacking the 2nd amendment. Damn you leftists are all over the Anti Americanism today! Here are some FACTS for ya!

Did you know last year 7 MILLION illegals were denied guns during the background check?
FBI: 7 MILLION Illegal Aliens Tried to Buy Guns This Year - California Political Review
Did you know illegals are 250 times MORE likely to commit crimes?
Illegal Immigrant Crime Rates | National Review

My SCAAP-extrapolated crime figures actually are lower than those calculated by John Lott. Using Arizona Department of Corrections data spanning 1985–2017, Lott calculates that illegal immigrants in Arizona aged 18-35, for example, are 250 percent more likely to commit crimes than young U.S. citizens. Further, such illegal immigrants commit more serious crimes — such as murder, robbery, and sexual assault.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws.

If we had a wall, our gun ban would have worked?

 

[Rustic]

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Lol
Frivolous gun control laws make for a weak community...

By weak you mean ones with much lower homicide rates I assume.

Na, not really
Rural America has next to no violent crime due to personal firearm ownership and lack of frivolous gun control laws.
Most all of Americas violent crime is in progressive controlled urban America.

 

[Polishprince]

Why have gun control when only impact the law abiding citizen? Criminals could care less about gun control, that's why they are criminals

-Geaux

Funny claim given how many fewer shootings there are in countries with strong gun control.

The homicide rate in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is 3 times of America's. Yet their gun control is very strict. Even semi automatic weapons are banned, and every gun owner must justify his ownership to the government.

Doesn't help, at least with the homicide rate.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In America, some places have Draconian style gun control- places like Chicago.

Other places have relaxed gun control, even requiring law abiders to have firearms, like Kennesaw.

It would be interesting to compare apples and apples, instead of comparing America to countries like Japan or Germany that we have little to nothing in common with.

City laws are quite limited. It's very easy to get guns in. Chicago Draconian? They have concealed carry....

They have concealed carry...

We do now. But we had a ban from 1982-2010.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why have gun control when only impact the law abiding citizen? Criminals could care less about gun control, that's why they are criminals

-Geaux

Funny claim given how many fewer shootings there are in countries with strong gun control.

And yet again: what constitutes ‘strong’ gun control?

While we wait for a response, consider the fact that comparing the United States to other Western liberal democracies fails as a fallacy.

There are fewer shootings in other countries because those societies are considerably less violent than American society, having little to do with the availability of guns.

 

[Preacher]

Why have gun control when only impact the law abiding citizen? Criminals could care less about gun control, that's why they are criminals

-Geaux

Funny claim given how many fewer shootings there are in countries with strong gun control.

And yet again: what constitutes ‘strong’ gun control?

While we wait for a response, consider the fact that comparing the United States to other Western liberal democracies fails as a fallacy.

There are fewer shootings in other countries because those societies are considerably less violent than American society, having little to do with the availability of guns.

Which countries are you talking about exactly?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.

Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us.

Funny how they never were able to enforce the strong gun control here in Chicago.

Yes Chicago has no walls and it's surrounded by weak gun laws. Most the guns come from outside of Chicago.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's the point. Gun control only disarms the Law Abiders, and makes them sitting ducks for the criminal element.

If they are just sitting ducks, why are homicide rates in countries with gun control a small fraction of ours?

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Lots of illegal ownership guarantees lots of homicides.

If they are just sitting ducks, why are homicide rates in countries with gun control a small fraction of ours?

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia

Do the countries above us on this list have gun control?