Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

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Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

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Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

Could he be labled a terrorist? sure, but so what. Its of no importance when you look what ISIS and others are doing as an ORGANIZATION, world wide. Do you understand the difference between a concerted effort by these groups to ramp up the killings they are doing now to a much higher level compared to a Loon sleeping with a stack of bibles? I dont think you do. I don't think your smart enough to tell the difference.

Video: How ISIS is trying to recruit young Americans

look at the world and you will see that Islam is at war against every religion they butt up against whether it is Hindu, Bhudists, Coptics in Egypt, any minority religious group that stands in their way, Jews, athiests, gay people, you name it, the radical sects of Islam though a minority still stands in the millions and while you may have a few thousand crazy christians running around, they are not a dedicated network like radical islamists.
So by all means lets just open our borders and let anyone in who says they are a refugee, lets make it so much easier for them to set up their network here, never mind the fact that our FBI and CIA have to work overtime just to keep up with them. Your a genius

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

I have no problem putting KKK on a terrorist watch list, such as the guy in the article. There are still less than 5,000 of them in the US and whether they pose a bigger threat than radical Islam, that may be only because we have still a very tiny muslim population here. The majority of Americans are still christian of some sort but there is no denomination thats comparable to something like the wahabis or ISIS. Its not even close

The Crusades did actually insist CONVERT OR DIE to Muslims.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

...........SNIP"

Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

Why do you claim that he's not a terrorist?

He was obviously stockpiling Bibles for an Islamic book burning during a goat orgy!

 

[JakeStarkey]

. . . under double moons.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

There's been a lot of massacres out of Anatolia (Turkey)
Why does this one stand out?

List of massacres in Turkey - Wikipedia

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

...........SNIP"

Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

No, again. You appear to have a bias, possibly, against believers, why?

Because it is used to promote hate, just like islam is used to promote hate. Religion is a tool used by the right to promote mistreatment.

Haha, I thought Christianity teaches us to love our fellow man?
Well, yes some things against Sodomites, but what else is new?

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

...........SNIP"

Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

He is a Christian terrorist.

There's no such thing as Christian terrorists.

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

The Crusades did actually insist CONVERT OR DIE to Muslims.

How recent was that? I don't remember seeing anything about it in the papers.

 

[blackhawk]

If there is proof he is a member of a terrorist organization or that he committed his crime in the name of or support of one then call him a terrorist if not shut up.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

There's been a lot of massacres out of Anatolia (Turkey)
Why does this one stand out?

List of massacres in Turkey - Wikipedia

You really are not well versed on the crusades are you?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Christian terrorists almost act singly in the US: the sniper shooting pro-abortion people in Florida; the bomber in Georgia; the weirdo at the abortion clinic in Arizona; the Wal-Mart killer in Colorado. They exist, and nothing can be said that changes that unalterable fact.

 

[monkrules]

Christian terrorists almost act singly in the US: the sniper shooting pro-abortion people in Florida; the bomber in Georgia; the weirdo at the abortion clinic in Arizona; the Wal-Mart killer in Colorado. They exist, and nothing can be said that changes that unalterable fact.

Is there any difference between these christian terrorists and the lone ISIS sympathizers who ram vehicles into crowds?

 

[Tehon]

In order to be legally terrorism, the violence has to happen in the specific name of a cause or ideology, otherwise it's just violent crime.

Not true. It ultimately comes down to intent. If he intended to coerce the population or the government it can be deemed terrorism. It does not need to be linked to any cause or ideology.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes, he's a terrorist.

What was his purpose in those killings?

 

[monkrules]

Not true. It ultimately comes down to intent. If he intended to coerce the population or the government it can be deemed terrorism. It does not need to be linked to any cause or ideology.

The Walmart shooter may, or may not be a terrorist. But what about the KKK?

The KKK should definitely be labeled a terrorist organization. And the label should be used in media every time the KKK is mentioned. Members should also be identified so everyone can keep an eye on them. Why hasn't this already been done, in view of all the pain the KKK has caused so many innocent Americans.

 

[fncceo]

Problem?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You reall

Isn't that the last time Muslims tried to conquer the West?

 

[Tehon]

Not true. It ultimately comes down to intent. If he intended to coerce the population or the government it can be deemed terrorism. It does not need to be linked to any cause or ideology.

The Walmart shooter may, or may not be a terrorist. But what about the KKK?

The KKK should definitely be labeled a terrorist organization. And the label should be used in media every time the KKK is mentioned. Members should also be identified so everyone can keep an eye on them. Why hasn't this already been done, in view of all the pain the KKK has caused so many innocent Americans.

In my opinion, the definition of terrorism is a bit vague. I'm no fan of the KKK, but you are suggesting a rabbit hole I think we should be wary of.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Is there any difference between these christian terrorists and the lone ISIS sympathizers who ram vehicles into crowds?

Yes. Your ISIS sympathizers target INNOCENT human beings simply because they're not Muslim.

 

[Picaro]

If he were black, the Democrats would be praising and gushing over how brave is, and give him a job teaching at Harvard.