Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

[ScienceRocks]

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Outside of the comical and overt bias against religion as portrayed by the OP and and his derelict ilk, I see no direct cause that faith had anything to do with this. Demented extremists exist in all faiths, ideologies and organizations and cannot be used to rationally classify an entire group. Yet, as evidenced here, they still sadly persist, like a disease.
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All muslims are being blamed each time one of them attacks and we're unconstitutionally targeting them. Why not for other religions? Seems fair.

 

[Picaro]

The difference between killing in the name of Islam and killing in the name of Christianity is that Islam actually does promote violence and that there are lots of violent passages in the Koran. Christianity is based on 10 commandments, one being "thou shall not kill." So its a violation of Christianity to kill people indiscriminately. The Koran INSTRUCTS people to kill infidels.

You know nothing about the Catholic church. They tortured and killed for centuries.

Your heroic atheist states murdered hundreds of millions, and your lovely pagan sacrificial temples euphemistically called 'abortion clinics' have murdered over 60 million babies just to appease your bloodlust. Please, have your parents lock you in the basement and never let you out.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

There's been a lot of massacres out of Anatolia (Turkey)
Why does this one stand out?

List of massacres in Turkey - Wikipedia

You really are not well versed on the crusades are you?

Antioch is in Turkey, so Muslims won they took over the Byzantine.

 

[Picaro]

The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

 

[Picaro]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

There's been a lot of massacres out of Anatolia (Turkey)
Why does this one stand out?

List of massacres in Turkey - Wikipedia

You really are not well versed on the crusades are you?

Antioch is in Turkey, so Muslims won they took over the Byzantine.

Jake loves Islam; they practice pedophilia and the butt raping of young boys, something every Democrat in America is 110% supportive of. It's why homosexuals and their fans have been peddling Islam as some sort of 'enlightened culture' as compared to 'evul Xians for decades, and still do.

 

[ScienceRocks]

There is a thousand times more evidence that there's no god. who are you to kill anyone based on a false belief?
Also we're NOT communist! We're very much capitalist that believe in common sense.

 

[Political Junky]

The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

Christians took over the Americas.

 

[Picaro]

The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

Christians took over the Americas.

And so what? Actually it was states and traders who came over, not some Crusade, and the natives were fine with it for hundreds of years, so what point you have isn't clear nor even remotely relevant. Want to discuss what the 'natives' were like, and see if they rate a big giant Pity Party by the ever-shifting 'moral standards' of left wingers and Xian bashers?

 

[Political Junky]

The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

Christians took over the Americas.

And so what? Actually it was states and traders who came over, not some Crusade, and the natives were fine with it for hundreds of years, so what point you have isn't clear nor even remotely relevant. Want to discuss what the 'natives' were like, and see if they rate a big giant Pity Party by the ever-shifting 'moral standards' of left wingers and Xian bashers?

^^ Bullshit

 

[Picaro]

The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

Christians took over the Americas.

And so what? Actually it was states and traders who came over, not some Crusade, and the natives were fine with it for hundreds of years, so what point you have isn't clear nor even remotely relevant. Want to discuss what the 'natives' were like, and see if they rate a big giant Pity Party by the ever-shifting 'moral standards' of left wingers and Xian bashers?

^^ Bullshit

lol you don't know history, do you. Typical.

 

[Windparadox]

All muslims are being blamed each time one of them attacks and we're unconstitutionally targeting them. Why not for other religions? Seems fair.

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Are you changing the topic of your original post? Bibles, which you clearly mention in the OP, are not Muslim. Islam has nothing to do with this. If you can't stick to your own topic without changing the focus, kindly let me know.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You reall

Isn't that the last time Muslims tried to conquer the West?

You sliced the quote, so who knows the context of your confused statement.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I'm a Catholic (well I used to be). What people did hundreds of years ago means nothing. It's not an excuse for behavior today.

If we can use that as an excuse, then we can go around slaughtering blacks because hundreds of years ago blacks slaughtered each other in Africa. Hell they still do in some of these tribes.

Oh, I agree about 'back then'. It's Christians and Jews and Muslims killing today for their disturbed understanding of their religions.

Picaro: The Crusades were self-defense, period. As for putting cities to the sword, that was the usual practice for cities that refused to surrender. No matter how you spin it, the Crusades are no way remotely 'equivalent to Islmao-Vermin imperialism. That's just laughable propaganda.

^^^ And that is not the statement of a person who understands history. It is #altchristianagitprop

 

[JakeStarkey]

The massacres in Antioch and Jerusalem by the Crusaders had scores of thousands of murdered Jews and Muslims and some Christians.​

There's been a lot of massacres out of Anatolia (Turkey)
Why does this one stand out?

List of massacres in Turkey - Wikipedia

You really are not well versed on the crusades are you?

Antioch is in Turkey, so Muslims won they took over the Byzantine.

Jake loves Islam; they practice pedophilia and the butt raping of young boys, something every Democrat in America is 110% supportive of. It's why homosexuals and their fans have been peddling Islam as some sort of 'enlightened culture' as compared to 'evul Xians for decades, and still do.

I no more support such actions than you do as a relapsed Catholic support the pedophilia of the Catholic priesthood.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

...........SNIP"

Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

If he had a stack of Playboy magazines, would that be a factor in his decision to commit this crime? This matter doesn fit the definition of terrorism. Unlike ISIS, Al Kayduh, and the Taliban, he isn't trying to force people to accept some ideology thru violence.

Try as you will to prove it, Christians are not like Islamic Terrorists.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Ding. Dong. Nobody was discussing Islam or LGBTs here. Apparently, from the article, this guy lived surrounded by literature from his religion and then went out to kill people who were not of his ethnic background. Sounds like a terrorist. He killed people and wanted to kill more.

Is that his stated goal to force people to collect bibles?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?

"SNIP..........


Teresa Muniz says she gets a chill when she realizes her neighbor was on his way to commit America’s next horrific shooting. The “angry guy upstairs” drove to a nearby Walmart where witnesses say he walked in, calmly took out his handgun, and shot and killed three people waiting in line to pay. Neighbors described Ostrem as a bizarre, angry man who lived alone in an apartment with a stack of Bibles and virtually no furniture.

[...]

Hispanic residents said he was especially mean to them.

“He wouldn’t say nothing to us, but he talked to the only white couple who lives here,” Muniz said. “I don’t understand where that hatred comes from.”

There’s also this from ABC News.

Killed were Pamela Marques, 52, of Denver; Carlos Moreno, 66, of Thornton; and Victor Vasquez, 26, of Denver.

None were Walmart employees, and all were Hispanic.

...........SNIP"

Yep, ban all religious people from immigrating.

Could he be labled a terrorist? sure, but so what. Its of no importance when you look what ISIS and others are doing as an ORGANIZATION, world wide. Do you understand the difference between a concerted effort by these groups to ramp up the killings they are doing now to a much higher level compared to a Loon sleeping with a stack of bibles? I dont think you do. I don't think your smart enough to tell the difference.

Video: How ISIS is trying to recruit young Americans

look at the world and you will see that Islam is at war against every religion they butt up against whether it is Hindu, Bhudists, Coptics in Egypt, any minority religious group that stands in their way, Jews, athiests, gay people, you name it, the radical sects of Islam though a minority still stands in the millions and while you may have a few thousand crazy christians running around, they are not a dedicated network like radical islamists.
So by all means lets just open our borders and let anyone in who says they are a refugee, lets make it so much easier for them to set up their network here, never mind the fact that our FBI and CIA have to work overtime just to keep up with them. Your a genius

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

I have no problem putting KKK on a terrorist watch list, such as the guy in the article. There are still less than 5,000 of them in the US and whether they pose a bigger threat than radical Islam, that may be only because we have still a very tiny muslim population here. The majority of Americans are still christian of some sort but there is no denomination thats comparable to something like the wahabis or ISIS. Its not even close

Even I wouldnt say the Democrat Party's KKK are terrorists. They're more like a social club, albeit excluisionary.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You really are not well versed on the crusades are you

Isn't that the last time the Muslims tried to conquer the West?

Fixed it Jakey.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The Crusades did actually insist CONVERT OR DIE to Muslims

The Muzzies started it. Always have been troublemakers. It's in their Playbook.

 

[August West]

Dylan Roof`s shooting of 9 black church goers in Charleston was his attempt to start a race war. A purely political act. Are we allowed to call him a terrorist?