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That was a video interview, I don't even know whether there is its version with English subtitles or text.So, last time you demanded the original text of what Lavrov said, you remember? I provided the text. Now it is your turn, provide the text, please.
I wonder how the Russian media could misunderstand the interview, then. And sure, the 2022 article has nothing to do with the recent interview but it is about the same matter.That was a video interview, I don't even know whether there is its version with English subtitles or text.
I can give your a link on Russian news site (opposition) about his interview that has some citations. One of them is exactly about why Ukraine refused to sign this deal. I think you can translate it through online translator.
Кремль предлагал Украине прекратить войну — в обмен на ее отказ от вступления в НАТО Это заявил Давид Арахамия — глава украинской делегации на переговорах с РФ весной 2022 года. Российской пропаганде такая версия очень понравилась — Meduza
Лидер фракции «Слуга народа» в Верховной Раде Давид Арахамия, возглавлявший украинскую делегацию на переговорах с Россией, рассказал, что весной 2022 года Кремль предлагал закончить войну, если Украина примет нейтральный статус и откажется от вступления в НАТО. По его словам, Киев не стал...meduza.io
Except of that. Do you understand that the Wiki article links to the Telegraph's article as of 3 April 2022 when the negotiations were still ongoing? And it has nothing to do with the recent Arahamia's interview.
Comment on the Scholz stuff first then I will read and maybe comment on it.any comment on this ivan ?
Of course, only Russian 'media' is telling the truth. Eh? The time will show eventually.I wonder how the Russian media could misunderstand the interview, then. And sure, the 2022 article has nothing to do with the recent interview but it is about the same matter.
"In April, he said Russia had agreed to almost all Ukraine's peace proposals.[16] He added that he had the "feeling that the US and the UK will be the last to join when they see that others agree"
So Arakhamia agreed to the peace and it is all the truth. It also explains Russia´s sudden withdrawal.
Very evident that the "opposition" article or Arakhamia is not telling the truth today.
Again, he ran out of stuff. He can and will send more money but the UAF cannot fight with money.just accept this fact ivan
Why would he show 18 pages one by one? Just the most important one, I guess.Of course, only Russian 'media' is telling the truth. Eh? The time will show eventually.
Remember when at the summit with African leaders Putin showed one page from this draft deal? I wonder why he didn't show it in full.
Don't be silly, man. After he presented this draft on the press conference, it was quite understandable and logical to expect that either the foreign office or his administration would publish it in full afterwards. But it never happened.Why would he show 18 pages one by one? Just the most important one, I guess.
Again, he ran out of stuff. He can and will send more money but the UAF cannot fight with money.
Now for the telegram statement. It reads like written by someone who just got his draft notice.
Why would they publish the signed document, when it was violated by Ukraine immediately? You see, it can be like this or that. No proof for anything.Don't be silly, man. After he presented this draft on the press conference, it was quite understandable and logical to expect that either the foreign office or his administration would publish it in full afterwards. But it never happened.
Most important, my ass. 1 out of 18. Who do you want to fool?
The treaty wasn't 'signed'. It was preliminary agreed by the delegations (in Russian, this process is described by the word 'parafirovan'). To become it 'signed' the treaty should have gone through the ratification procedure by the two sides.Why would they publish the signed document, when it was violated by Ukraine immediately? You see, it can be like this or that. No proof for anything.
Let Russians speak Russian, maybe?The treaty wasn't 'signed'. It was preliminary agreed by the delegations (in Russian, this process is described by the word 'parafirovan'). To become it 'signed' the treaty should have gone through the ratification procedure by the two sides.
Because if you want to make a point, then make it in full. Or don't make it at all. As simple as that.
Okay, do you want to know why the Putin regime didn't disclose the treaty in full? Only my opinion, of course. Because there, somewhere in the 'unimportant' parts, there were political demands, hardly acceptable to Ukraine. And that was not only about NATO, of course.
do want you want in your Moscow ulus , or in your home, but you are not in position to force us to do it.Russians speak Russian,
Yeah, and not only that.Let Russians speak Russian, maybe?