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.2 degrees!!!!
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And some wonder why nobody cares about global warming!!!
Only the hyper-hysterical among us get freaked out by .2 degree's over 18 years!!!
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I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.
LOL. So says our purveyor of intelligent photons. LOL
.2 degrees!!!!Pardon me while I try not to choke on my just sipped coffee!!
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SSDD is a troll
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.
Open forum...if you don't want answers from anyone else, send him an IM...and how often do you jump in on conversations to which you were not originally a part?.....tell us mr hypocrisy.
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.
Open forum...if you don't want answers from anyone else, send him an IM...and how often do you jump in on conversations to which you were not originally a part?.....tell us mr hypocrisy.
Alright. You're a hypocrite. And an ignorant troll. Happy?
I will find that the hot end of the bar with the warmer cold end is significantly warmer than the hot end of the bar with the colder end.
The rate at which heat is conducted across a piece of material depends on the temperature difference across which it is moving. The effect is precisely analogous to net radiation between two bodies of different temperature. The rate of energy flow is dependent on the TWO temperatures involved. And nothing in the process possesses intelligence.
I answered up thread.
Actually, you didn't...you danced around the question and gave a weasel answer..another defense mechanism... So I am guessing that you don't think back conduction can happen but just can't bring yourself to actually say it....another defense mechanism. So I will continue on the guess than you don't think back conduction can happen but are just to timid to say it.
That being said, if a photon traveling at the speed of light has no distance to travel because of spatial length being infinitely contracted (relativity) and gets there in no time because infinite time dilation, how is energy transfer via radiation any different from energy transfer via conduction. A photon, according to science comes into existence traveling at the speed of light and therefore is already in contact with its destination. Energy won't conduct from cool to warm if the bodies are in physical contact and according to science, photons are already in contact with their destination when they come into existence.
It is unfortunate that you are unable to wrap your mind around this but if you are going to believe in photons, then you must try and let them exist in their own reference frame and stop trying to force them into yours. You envision photons as tiny little things zooming along very fast but traveling some distance and taking some time to get there....thinking of them in those terms is a failure on your part. From the photon's point of view, it is traveling no distance and taking no time to get there...it is essentially in physical contact with its destination from the time it comes into existence. No back conduction....no back radiation because they are essentially the same thing.
So now, are you going to deny relativity in order to make the idiotic claim that a photon must somehow know what it is like where it is going rather than accept relativity and admit that a photon knows what its destination is like because it is already there?
I also can't help but notice that Ian hasn't jumped in here to help you out. He typically can't resist these discussions. Could it be that he is actually thinking rather than just believing as you are doing? Could it be that he is trying to allow a photon its own perspective rather than trying to make it conform to his? What are the ramifications to energy transfer if you allow a photon its on perspective rather than trying to jam it into your own?
.So no luck finding a direction in SB?
No luck necessary.
The Stefan–Boltzmann law, also known as Stefan's law, describes the power radiated from a black body in terms of its temperature. Specifically, the Stefan–Boltzmann law states that the total energy radiated per unit surface area of a black body across all wavelengths per unit time (also known as the black-body radiant exitance or emissive power),, is directly proportional to the fourth power of the black body's thermodynamic temperature T:![]()
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Can you point out where direction is in that definition?
As usual, you hide your lie behind a bit of truth. You do show the law written in the form for thermal energy being radiated by an actual black body...but as you know, or perhaps you don't...the law is written in different forms for different situations. We are talking about a radiator that is not a black body and the radiator is radiating into its cooler surroundings. In that situation (otherwise known as the real world) the equation takes the form of:
which just happens to be the form used in physics for the hard sciences texts.![]()
That equation describes a one way energy transfer between a radiator and its cooler surroundings. If the equation were describing a two way energy transfer between a radiator and its cooler surroundings and then back to the radiator, the equation would take the form of:
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So let the denying begin....first deny relativity and claim that a photon must spend some time traveling a distance to its destination and then deny that equations in physics describe things that are happening in the physical world and in order to describe different things, the equation must be altered to make the description accurate. Deny it all toddster...that's what believers do when their beliefs are challenged.
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SSDD is a troll
I don't understand your point. Anywhere in the universe energy is flying all over the place. The second law doesn't say anything about what individual particles can do. It only tells what can and cannot happen in large ensembles of interacting particles, ie. the nature of heat.So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.
The speed of light is not infinite. While a photon may experience no time passing, the rest of the universe does. Events can and do take place while the photon is traveling between points.
I don't understand your point. Anywhere in the universe energy is flying all over the place. The second law doesn't say anything about what individual particles can do. It only tells what can and cannot happen in large ensembles of interacting particles, ie. the nature of heat.So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.
I read through a lot of this thread but could find no reason why he could come conceivably think that way. He seems to know physics and thermodynamic terminology but comes to conclusions that are well beyond the norms of physics.This is why we all disagree with SSDD. He asserts that the SLoT applies to all energy transfers right down to the atomic level, rather than just a statistical description of large numbers of interactions.
I read through a lot of this thread but could find no reason why he could come conceivably think that way. He seems to know physics and thermodynamic terminology but comes to conclusions that are well beyond the norms of physics.This is why we all disagree with SSDD. He asserts that the SLoT applies to all energy transfers right down to the atomic level, rather than just a statistical description of large numbers of interactions.
Did I say that? Where? Link?So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.Explain how energy is conducted from hot to cold. And then why it won't conduct from cold to hot. Explain in your own words. Then I'll point out your confusion.
So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....