Warmest March on record according to the Japanese Meteorological Agency

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.2 degrees!!!!:rofl::eusa_dance::eusa_dance: Pardon me while I try not to choke on my just sipped coffee!!


And some wonder why nobody cares about global warming!!!


Only the hyper-hysterical among us get freaked out by .2 degree's over 18 years!!!:spinner:
 
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.


Open forum...if you don't want answers from anyone else, send him an IM...and how often do you jump in on conversations to which you were not originally a part?.....tell us mr hypocrisy.
 
LOL. So says our purveyor of intelligent photons. LOL

Tell me rocks, do you believe in back conduction?...that is energy transfer from a cool object to a warm object when the two are in physical contact? If you do, can you give us an observed measured example? If you don't can you perhaps describe the difference between zero time and zero distance between objects and physical contact.

Perhaps you also care to deny relativity and or the Lorentz relativity equations like toddster.

This should be interesting. I await with baited breath...but fully expect no actual response so don't worry about disappointing me.
 
.2 degrees!!!!:rofl::eusa_dance::eusa_dance: Pardon me while I try not to choke on my just sipped coffee!!

Wonder how many orders of magnitude the margin of error is than the claimed warming? They never seem to want to include the error bars.
 
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SSDD is a troll
 
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SSDD is a troll


So you proved my point...the error bars are much larger than the claimed warming. Feel better now that the magnitude of your histrionics is made clear?
 
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.


Open forum...if you don't want answers from anyone else, send him an IM...and how often do you jump in on conversations to which you were not originally a part?.....tell us mr hypocrisy.

Alright. You're a hypocrite. And an ignorant troll. Happy?
 
Tell me rocks, do you believe in back conduction?...that is energy transfer from a cool object to a warm object when the two are in physical contact? If you do, can you give us an observed measured example?
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I have two steel bars a meter in length. One end of each bar is maintained at 100C. The other end of the first bar is chilled to 0C, the other end of the second bar is chilled to -100C.

I turn off the temperature controls and wait 30 seconds, then measure the temperature of the hotter ends of both bars. What will I find?

I will find that the hot end of the bar with the warmer cold end is significantly warmer than the hot end of the bar with the colder end.

The rate at which heat is conducted across a piece of material depends on the temperature difference across which it is moving. The effect is precisely analogous to net radiation between two bodies of different temperature. The rate of energy flow is dependent on the TWO temperatures involved. And nothing in the process possesses intelligence.
 
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That question was directed at Muhammed.


Open forum...if you don't want answers from anyone else, send him an IM...and how often do you jump in on conversations to which you were not originally a part?.....tell us mr hypocrisy.

Alright. You're a hypocrite. And an ignorant troll. Happy?

You are projecting as much as mamooth....It isn't me who whines when someone answers a point that I didn't make specifically to them....a trait we have all seen you exhibit time after time...and yes, you are an ignorant troll as evidenced by your unwillingness to give Ian any sort of straight answer to any of his numerous pointed questions. Me? I give an answer and don't dance around like you...You many not like the answer, but I don't dodge.
 
I will find that the hot end of the bar with the warmer cold end is significantly warmer than the hot end of the bar with the colder end.

Which just means that it conducted more energy into the cool metal...neither end received any energy from the cold metal...the amount of energy moving via conduction is a product of the temperature differential. Now, do you still want to claim that there is, or can be back conduction?

The rate at which heat is conducted across a piece of material depends on the temperature difference across which it is moving. The effect is precisely analogous to net radiation between two bodies of different temperature. The rate of energy flow is dependent on the TWO temperatures involved. And nothing in the process possesses intelligence.

No back conduction and no back radiation either...as far as photons are concerned radiation is the same as conduction as they are, via spatial length dilation and time dilation in contact with their destination from the time of their origin. Zero distance and zero time between points is the same as physical contact....unless you care to describe the difference...

Or like toddster deny relativity and claim that the Lorentz relativity equations are wrong.
 
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Are you suggesting, as you did with radiation, that the cold end of the bar knows the temperature of the hot end and refuses to conduct in that direction?
 
I answered up thread.

Actually, you didn't...you danced around the question and gave a weasel answer..another defense mechanism... So I am guessing that you don't think back conduction can happen but just can't bring yourself to actually say it....another defense mechanism. So I will continue on the guess than you don't think back conduction can happen but are just to timid to say it.

That being said, if a photon traveling at the speed of light has no distance to travel because of spatial length being infinitely contracted (relativity) and gets there in no time because infinite time dilation, how is energy transfer via radiation any different from energy transfer via conduction. A photon, according to science comes into existence traveling at the speed of light and therefore is already in contact with its destination. Energy won't conduct from cool to warm if the bodies are in physical contact and according to science, photons are already in contact with their destination when they come into existence.

It is unfortunate that you are unable to wrap your mind around this but if you are going to believe in photons, then you must try and let them exist in their own reference frame and stop trying to force them into yours. You envision photons as tiny little things zooming along very fast but traveling some distance and taking some time to get there....thinking of them in those terms is a failure on your part. From the photon's point of view, it is traveling no distance and taking no time to get there...it is essentially in physical contact with its destination from the time it comes into existence. No back conduction....no back radiation because they are essentially the same thing.

So now, are you going to deny relativity in order to make the idiotic claim that a photon must somehow know what it is like where it is going rather than accept relativity and admit that a photon knows what its destination is like because it is already there?

I also can't help but notice that Ian hasn't jumped in here to help you out. He typically can't resist these discussions. Could it be that he is actually thinking rather than just believing as you are doing? Could it be that he is trying to allow a photon its own perspective rather than trying to make it conform to his? What are the ramifications to energy transfer if you allow a photon its on perspective rather than trying to jam it into your own?


So no luck finding a direction in SB?
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No luck necessary.


The Stefan–Boltzmann law, also known as Stefan's law, describes the power radiated from a black body in terms of its temperature. Specifically, the Stefan–Boltzmann law states that the total energy radiated per unit surface area of a black body across all wavelengths per unit time (also known as the black-body radiant exitance or emissive power),
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, is directly proportional to the fourth power of the black body's thermodynamic temperature T:
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Can you point out where direction is in that definition?

As usual, you hide your lie behind a bit of truth. You do show the law written in the form for thermal energy being radiated by an actual black body...but as you know, or perhaps you don't...the law is written in different forms for different situations. We are talking about a radiator that is not a black body and the radiator is radiating into its cooler surroundings. In that situation (otherwise known as the real world) the equation takes the form of:

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which just happens to be the form used in physics for the hard sciences texts.

That equation describes a one way energy transfer between a radiator and its cooler surroundings. If the equation were describing a two way energy transfer between a radiator and its cooler surroundings and then back to the radiator, the equation would take the form of:

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So let the denying begin....first deny relativity and claim that a photon must spend some time traveling a distance to its destination and then deny that equations in physics describe things that are happening in the physical world and in order to describe different things, the equation must be altered to make the description accurate. Deny it all toddster...that's what believers do when their beliefs are challenged.


I didn't read any of this thread until today.

I agree with SSDD that photons don't 'experience' time or distance. But there are two types of photons. Radiative photons that are created to shed energy (light) and reactive photons that transfer force in magnetic or electrical fields. Reactive photons are virtual, and do not have to conserve the usual properties, and they have the property of being additive or subtractive, but they have to have a partner to exist.

I think its funny that SSDD flips from disbelieving in photons to believing in their most esoteric qualities
 
The speed of light is not infinite. While a photon may experience no time passing, the rest of the universe does. Events can and do take place while the photon is traveling between points.
 
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SSDD is a troll

NO you are an idiot!! You do realize that many scientists now believe that we effectively left the LIA some where between 1870 and 1910, that all ramp up seen is natural variation. And the spread of 0.1 degrees on the graphs is misleading and done simply to get a fear response. 0.5 Deg C rise can be totally attributed to natural variation.
 
So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.
I don't understand your point. Anywhere in the universe energy is flying all over the place. The second law doesn't say anything about what individual particles can do. It only tells what can and cannot happen in large ensembles of interacting particles, ie. the nature of heat.
 
The speed of light is not infinite. While a photon may experience no time passing, the rest of the universe does. Events can and do take place while the photon is traveling between points.


Who are you addressing this to Capt Obvious?

SSDD was pointing out that in the photon's frame of reference it always knows where it is going, and what it will find there.

Do you disagree? There is a distinct possibility that this is the genesis of inertia.
 
So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.
I don't understand your point. Anywhere in the universe energy is flying all over the place. The second law doesn't say anything about what individual particles can do. It only tells what can and cannot happen in large ensembles of interacting particles, ie. the nature of heat.

This is why we all disagree with SSDD. He asserts that the SLoT applies to all energy transfers right down to the atomic level, rather than just a statistical description of large numbers of interactions.
 
This is why we all disagree with SSDD. He asserts that the SLoT applies to all energy transfers right down to the atomic level, rather than just a statistical description of large numbers of interactions.
I read through a lot of this thread but could find no reason why he could come conceivably think that way. He seems to know physics and thermodynamic terminology but comes to conclusions that are well beyond the norms of physics.
 
This is why we all disagree with SSDD. He asserts that the SLoT applies to all energy transfers right down to the atomic level, rather than just a statistical description of large numbers of interactions.
I read through a lot of this thread but could find no reason why he could come conceivably think that way. He seems to know physics and thermodynamic terminology but comes to conclusions that are well beyond the norms of physics.


I haven't read all of this thread but I have debated SSDD many times in the past. He comes from the 'Slayers' camp. They distort the definitions of physics to 'prove' that CO2 can have no impact on heat transfer. They just repeat their talking points and refuse to answer embarrassing questions. Google Spencer's 'Yes Virginia' or Willis's 'Shell' to see what I mean. In a way it is good because it sharpens your thinking to refute their points.
 
Explain how energy is conducted from hot to cold. And then why it won't conduct from cold to hot. Explain in your own words. Then I'll point out your confusion.
So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....ie back conduction. I am afraid that it is you who is confused toddster. No more explanation is needed as to why than the second law...neither heat nor energy will move from cold to warm without some work being done to accomplish the movement.
So now you do believe that energy will conduct from cold to warm....
Did I say that? Where? Link?
If you can't explain how conduction works, I can't point out your confusion.
 

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