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Comey the clown was destroyed.
if you say so...
FBI Director James Comey confirms investigation of Trump-Russia ties
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Comey the clown was destroyed.
Is today a good day for President Trump or James Comey?
Politically, Trump may be damaged by innuendo from Comey's interrogation.
Legally, Trump should not be legally damaged.
Politically, Comey may be damaged because if he felt threatened by losing his job from anything Trump said, he should have gone to a higher up in the Justice Department that was in place at the time. Comey may have a vandetta against Trump because of his firing, but that doesn't end the fact that he didn't report that Trump told him to stop any interrogation if this is indeed what Trump wanted.
Legally, comey should be fine. Even the "leak" is not, by definition a "leak" because it was not a government document that was released by his friend.
In the eyes of the public, Comey is depicted as a timid, cowardly FBI Director because if he felt "queasy" about the discussion with Trump, it was his place to tell him that the President 's comments were not appropriate. If he was intimidated, which clearly he was demonstrated by making precise notes on his conversations with the president, he should have reported that to Jeff Sessions regardless if Sessions was going to recuse himself from a different investigation weeks later. The sea gull defense is silly. BTW, how did he know that Sessions was going to recuse himself on the Russian question weeks later?
Once you're a private citizen--like Comey was after he was fired--you can talk all you want too. I think G.W. Bush had about 7 books written about him after department heads left office under his administration.
Comey did tell Trump the importance of the independence of the Justice Department and his job as FBI director--and Trump didn't get the message obviously, because he phoned him directly 6 different times--discussing the "russian cloud."
Was this a bad day for TRUMP--Oh Hell yeah. It's what he or anyone else is refusing to answer in a public hearing is what you have to be concerned about.
B'loney. Former Government Employees do not have carte blanche to leak privileged information.
Comey took notes, put them in his pocket,
who marked them classified
or
controlled
or
sensitive
WHO?
When you are asked to a private meeting with your boss, with only the 2 of you present......confidentiality of the conversation would be the norm.
Most people already know not to blab their mouth off, especially to others of the same or lower level of seniority. IF Comey thought the conversation was of 'national security' importance or a crime, then he could/should have went to the authority that would handle that aspect. Sessions?? But not to his peeps &/or the media
no, comey went thru the proper channels under the circumstances, at the time and then after the fact too... that means ALL things considered factual, not just trumpswab fantasy circumstances in full denial of the legal facts and processes.
our dumbo president calls highly regarded FBI director a "nut job" because trump is evidently incapable of comprehending protocol and legal processes and limitations.
FACT is, only after trump fired him and then tweeted threats about possible tapes, did private citizen comey then deliberately and legally, let it be know publicly that he indeed had saved transcripts of their conversations.
only dumbo or dishonest observers can't discern the difference between an illegal leak that compromises national security vs what comey did which was a fully legal exposure of important facts.
Once you're a private citizen--like Comey was after he was fired--you can talk all you want too. I think G.W. Bush had about 7 books written about him after department heads left office under his administration.
Comey did tell Trump the importance of the independence of the Justice Department and his job as FBI director--and Trump didn't get the message obviously, because he phoned him directly 6 different times--discussing the "russian cloud."
Was this a bad day for TRUMP--Oh Hell yeah. It's what he or anyone else is refusing to answer in a public hearing is what you have to be concerned about.
B'loney. Former Government Employees do not have carte blanche to leak privileged information.
Comey took notes, put them in his pocket,
who marked them classified
or
controlled
or
sensitive
WHO?
When you are asked to a private meeting with your boss, with only the 2 of you present......confidentiality of the conversation would be the norm.
Most people already know not to blab their mouth off, especially to others of the same or lower level of seniority. IF Comey thought the conversation was of 'national security' importance or a crime, then he could/should have went to the authority that would handle that aspect. Sessions?? But not to his peeps &/or the media
no, comey went thru the proper channels under the circumstances, at the time and then after the fact too... that means ALL things considered factual, not just trumpswab fantasy circumstances in full denial of the legal facts and processes.
our dumbo president calls highly regarded FBI director a "nut job" because trump is evidently incapable of comprehending protocol and legal processes and limitations.
FACT is, only after trump fired him and then tweeted threats about possible tapes, did private citizen comey then deliberately and legally, let it be know publicly that he indeed had saved transcripts of their conversations.
only dumbo or dishonest observers can't discern the difference between an illegal leak that compromises national security vs what comey did which was a fully legal exposure of important facts.
It's apparent you didn't see or hear Comey's testimony......or you would have known Comey said himself, that as soon as he left that meeting he was writing notes and told his friends to go to the media. Do you do that when you have an 'uncomfortable' meeting with your boss's boss??????
Reread the whole post that you quoted...do it slowly & carefully so you understand what I said........then get back to me
I never said Comey blabbing his mouth was illegal
there is no denying the FACTS of the matter
Comey said that after one particularly odd private meeting with the president, he feared Trump “might lie” about the conversation, prompting him to begin taking careful notes after each encounter.
Comey revealed that after he was fired, he leaked notes on his interactions with Trump to the media, hoping that sharing the information would prompt the appointment of a special counsel to investigate the administration over possible links to Russia.
“It’s my judgment that I was fired because of the Russia investigation,” Comey said. “I was fired, in some way, to change — or the endeavor was to change the way the Russia investigation was being conducted.”
Comey’s testimony threatened to deepen the legal and political crisis engulfing the White House, which has struggled to respond to growing questions about the president’s conduct.
Comey: White House lied about me, FBI
You've got to get over this Trump his Comey's boss--he isn't his boss--Jeff Sessions as attorney general is.
You'll also note that Comey only met with Obama twice during his tenure, once to attend a security briefing with others, and the last time for Obama to say goodbye when he left office. There were no phone calls--because it is extremely rare for the FBI Chief to meet with the President in PRIVATE. If it was an innocent meeting Trump would have never told Jeff Sessions to leave the room--because any investigation would have been under his title also--as Attorney General. 3 meetings and 6 phone calls Trump made to Comey in 3 months and--then he fired him.
Comey made these memo's after Trump made the comments to him about "letting go of Michael Flynn, a case that he was in charge of, knowing Trump's history of lying. Any prudent person with half a brain would have done the same thing. He also told Jeff Sessions to never leave him in a room alone again with Trump. And I am certain that Jeff Sessions will verify that under oath--as eventually he will be called in or subpoenaed to testify to that account. In fact Sessions has already verified that because he corrected the record--as Comey stated that Sessions did not reply to his comment, and in fact Sessions did reply to that in an email sent to Comey. Session's has probably already verified it to the Special Prosecutor in this case, Robert Mueller. As far as Comey--he told his friend to release the memo to the press (after Trump fired him and attacked him verbally and on tweeter)--in order to promote a special prosecutor--which worked.
You've got to get over this Trump his Comey's boss--he isn't his boss--Jeff Sessions as attorney general is.
yes, Sessions was Comey's immediate supervisor or superior......but who is Sessions superior???? Do YOU understand governmental management levels?
You'll also note that Comey only met with Obama twice during his tenure, once to attend a security briefing with others, and the last time for Obama to say goodbye when he left office. There were no phone calls--because it is extremely rare for the FBI Chief to meet with the President in PRIVATE. If it was an innocent meeting Trump would have never told Jeff Sessions to leave the room--because any investigation would have been under his title also--as Attorney General. 3 meetings and 6 phone calls Trump made to Comey in 3 months and--then he fired him.
Don't really give a shit about this, cause it wasn't part of my argument. Other than I had said it wasn't normal how Trump had not followed chain of command, but he was still within his right to do so.......and I never said it was an innocent meeting
Comey made these memo's after Trump made the comments to him about "letting go of Michael Flynn, a case that he was in charge of, knowing Trump's history of lying. Any prudent person with half a brain would have done the same thing. He also told Jeff Sessions to never leave him in a room alone again with Trump. And I am certain that Jeff Sessions will verify that under oath--as eventually he will be called in or subpoenaed to testify to that account. In fact Sessions has already verified that because he corrected the record--as Comey stated that Sessions did not reply to his comment, and in fact Sessions did reply to that in an email sent to Comey. Session's has probably already verified it to the Special Prosecutor in this case, Robert Mueller. As far as Comey--he told his friend to release the memo to the press (after Trump fired him and attacked him verbally and on tweeter)--in order to promote a special prosecutor--which worked.
No, Comey made those notes after each of their meetings or calls.......because he thought he may need it in the future. And I do agree that anyone in the same situation would have done the same AND yes I agree with the rest of that because it was in the testimony
here watch it for yourself........
According to Trump The Big Mouth, both Sessions (who was supposed to be recused) and Rosenstein agreed to fire Trump.B'loney. Former Government Employees do not have carte blanche to leak privileged information.
Comey took notes, put them in his pocket,
who marked them classified
or
controlled
or
sensitive
WHO?
When you are asked to a private meeting with your boss, with only the 2 of you present......confidentiality of the conversation would be the norm.
Most people already know not to blab their mouth off, especially to others of the same or lower level of seniority. IF Comey thought the conversation was of 'national security' importance or a crime, then he could/should have went to the authority that would handle that aspect. Sessions?? But not to his peeps &/or the media
no, comey went thru the proper channels under the circumstances, at the time and then after the fact too... that means ALL things considered factual, not just trumpswab fantasy circumstances in full denial of the legal facts and processes.
our dumbo president calls highly regarded FBI director a "nut job" because trump is evidently incapable of comprehending protocol and legal processes and limitations.
FACT is, only after trump fired him and then tweeted threats about possible tapes, did private citizen comey then deliberately and legally, let it be know publicly that he indeed had saved transcripts of their conversations.
only dumbo or dishonest observers can't discern the difference between an illegal leak that compromises national security vs what comey did which was a fully legal exposure of important facts.
It's apparent you didn't see or hear Comey's testimony......or you would have known Comey said himself, that as soon as he left that meeting he was writing notes and told his friends to go to the media. Do you do that when you have an 'uncomfortable' meeting with your boss's boss??????
Reread the whole post that you quoted...do it slowly & carefully so you understand what I said........then get back to me
I never said Comey blabbing his mouth was illegal
I read his opening statement. You've got to get over this Trump his Comey's boss--he isn't his boss--Jeff Sessions as attorney general is. You'll also note that Comey only met with Obama twice during his tenure, once to attend a security briefing with others, and the last time for Obama to say goodbye when he left office. There were no phone calls--because it is extremely rare for the FBI Chief to meet with the President in PRIVATE. If it was an innocent meeting Trump would have never told Jeff Sessions to leave the room--because any investigation would have been under his title also--as Attorney General. 3 meetings and 6 phone calls Trump made to Comey in 3 months and--then he fired him.
Trump is a pathological liar--and that's been well-known since he was on the campaign trail. There hasn't been a comment that has come out of his mouth that he hasn't exagurated the truth, or flat out lied about.
PolitiFact awards Donald Trump its 'Lie of the Year'
Donald Trump wins PolitiFact’s ‘Lie of the Year,’ doesn’t take it lying down
Comey made these memo's after Trump made the comments to him about "letting go of Michael Flynn, a case that he was in charge of, knowing Trump's history of lying. Any prudent person with half a brain would have done the same thing. He also told Jeff Sessions to never leave him in a room alone again with Trump. And I am certain that Jeff Sessions will verify that under oath--as eventually he will be called in or subpoenaed to testify to that account. In fact Sessions has already verified that because he corrected the record--as Comey stated that Sessions did not reply to his comment, and in fact Sessions did reply to that in an email sent to Comey. Session's has probably already verified it to the Special Prosecutor in this case, Robert Mueller. As far as Comey--he told his friend to release the memo to the press (after Trump fired him and attacked him verbally and on tweeter)--in order to promote a special prosecutor--which worked.
And that's exactly what was needed in this investigation, an independent special prosecutor--that could not be influenced or intimidated by threats of losing their job or bought and paid for by anyone.
I imagine right now, Trump regrets the day that he fired Comey. He intended to put in a new FBI chief--that would bow to his will and pledge loyalty to him--and instead he's stuck with Robert Mueller--who has turned what was an congressional probe into a now Criminal Investigation.
Lindsey Graham: Russia probe 'now a criminal investigation'
Today was the beginning of the end for DJ Trump.
He will ultimately now be impeached and the whole Nation knows it now.
Whether he squeaks by in the Senate like Clinton did or not is yet to be seen.
The DEM's will all vote to impeach him no doubt.
Whether enough GOP Senators want Pence to replace him or not has yet to be seen.
But Mueller needs to finish his investigations first.
I have to believe Mueller is closer to Comey than to Trump.
So Trump is dog meat however you look at it.
According to Trump The Big Mouth, both Sessions (who was supposed to be recused) and Rosenstein agreed to fire Trump.Comey took notes, put them in his pocket,
who marked them classified
or
controlled
or
sensitive
WHO?
When you are asked to a private meeting with your boss, with only the 2 of you present......confidentiality of the conversation would be the norm.
Most people already know not to blab their mouth off, especially to others of the same or lower level of seniority. IF Comey thought the conversation was of 'national security' importance or a crime, then he could/should have went to the authority that would handle that aspect. Sessions?? But not to his peeps &/or the media
no, comey went thru the proper channels under the circumstances, at the time and then after the fact too... that means ALL things considered factual, not just trumpswab fantasy circumstances in full denial of the legal facts and processes.
our dumbo president calls highly regarded FBI director a "nut job" because trump is evidently incapable of comprehending protocol and legal processes and limitations.
FACT is, only after trump fired him and then tweeted threats about possible tapes, did private citizen comey then deliberately and legally, let it be know publicly that he indeed had saved transcripts of their conversations.
only dumbo or dishonest observers can't discern the difference between an illegal leak that compromises national security vs what comey did which was a fully legal exposure of important facts.
It's apparent you didn't see or hear Comey's testimony......or you would have known Comey said himself, that as soon as he left that meeting he was writing notes and told his friends to go to the media. Do you do that when you have an 'uncomfortable' meeting with your boss's boss??????
Reread the whole post that you quoted...do it slowly & carefully so you understand what I said........then get back to me
I never said Comey blabbing his mouth was illegal
I read his opening statement. You've got to get over this Trump his Comey's boss--he isn't his boss--Jeff Sessions as attorney general is. You'll also note that Comey only met with Obama twice during his tenure, once to attend a security briefing with others, and the last time for Obama to say goodbye when he left office. There were no phone calls--because it is extremely rare for the FBI Chief to meet with the President in PRIVATE. If it was an innocent meeting Trump would have never told Jeff Sessions to leave the room--because any investigation would have been under his title also--as Attorney General. 3 meetings and 6 phone calls Trump made to Comey in 3 months and--then he fired him.
Trump is a pathological liar--and that's been well-known since he was on the campaign trail. There hasn't been a comment that has come out of his mouth that he hasn't exagurated the truth, or flat out lied about.
PolitiFact awards Donald Trump its 'Lie of the Year'
Donald Trump wins PolitiFact’s ‘Lie of the Year,’ doesn’t take it lying down
Comey made these memo's after Trump made the comments to him about "letting go of Michael Flynn, a case that he was in charge of, knowing Trump's history of lying. Any prudent person with half a brain would have done the same thing. He also told Jeff Sessions to never leave him in a room alone again with Trump. And I am certain that Jeff Sessions will verify that under oath--as eventually he will be called in or subpoenaed to testify to that account. In fact Sessions has already verified that because he corrected the record--as Comey stated that Sessions did not reply to his comment, and in fact Sessions did reply to that in an email sent to Comey. Session's has probably already verified it to the Special Prosecutor in this case, Robert Mueller. As far as Comey--he told his friend to release the memo to the press (after Trump fired him and attacked him verbally and on tweeter)--in order to promote a special prosecutor--which worked.
And that's exactly what was needed in this investigation, an independent special prosecutor--that could not be influenced or intimidated by threats of losing their job or bought and paid for by anyone.
I imagine right now, Trump regrets the day that he fired Comey. He intended to put in a new FBI chief--that would bow to his will and pledge loyalty to him--and instead he's stuck with Robert Mueller--who has turned what was an congressional probe into a now Criminal Investigation.
Lindsey Graham: Russia probe 'now a criminal investigation'
That makes all 3 of them guilty of obstruction of justice.
However Rosenstein has pleaded not guilty.
That leaves Trump and Session.
Goodbye Trump and goodbye Sessions !!
Those were two of the shortest terms in office anyone has ever had.
Hello Pence.
Maybe Rosenstein will survive. Maybe he will need to step down.
He (Rosenstein) was a moron for attaching his name to Trump's directive to fire Comey.