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Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs. In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring
Yes, with protective tariffs, some items will cost more, because they're not being made in dirt-wage factories overseas but by Americans who are earning a decent wage and benefits in American factories. And instead of part of the profits going overseas, all of those profits are staying here in our country. And those American factory workers, instead of working at some service-industry job making $10-$15 an hour, are making $20-$30 an hour and are able to buy more goods and services in their area.
I do wish one of you folks who keep bashing protective tariffs would explain why China has grown by leaps and bounds with a fiercely protectionist tariffs. China's growth rate has dwarfed ours for years, and yet China has some of the highest tariffs in the world. China understands that protecting your own industries and products is sound policy. We used to understand that as well.
You have quite an imagination.What do you expect to suddenly sell more of to the EU?I did. It is the cheap ass labor and poor quality of life. Tariffs have nothing to do with it.Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
Maybe, MAYBE with China, tariffs are not the issue.
But with the EU? Or Japan?
Chinese wages are a lot higher than 40 years ago. THat is success.
Everything.
Yeah, they cheated us and made us buy their products...that's what happened.
Your pretense that you are so stupid that you can't imagine how a government might cheat it's trading partners in order to advance it's own nation's interests,
is rejected.
You might not be smart, but you are not that stupid.
My point stands. As you did not seriously address it.
Or, they are fucking cheating.
The problem is you are totally removing any responsibility from the citizens of this country and putting all the blame on someone else.
Nothing any foreign government did made anyone buy a single product from their country, it was a free choice on our part.
Trade policy is not an individual responsibility.
THe predatory trade policies of our trading partners, are their fault.
Our incompetent and corrupt political class also deserves some of the blame, of course.
On what do you base the claim their policies are predatory?
Various reports over the years, on the way Vat taxes work, various WTO rulings,
plus my natural suspicion on the fact that we almost ALWAYS are losing these trade balances.
We have some of the most productive workers in the world, and the most patents and technological innovation,
and yet, we always lose.
You seem to want to be China, what is absurd?Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...They are sending us their resources very cheaply. I don’t see how that is bad.
You must have an example where things have been made better?
I'm not talking about their resources so much as their finished products.
YOu want an example of government policy making things better?
Sure.
The Chinese government has a policy of enriching their nation though massive trade surplus.
It has made things better for them, at our expense.
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...They are sending us their resources very cheaply. I don’t see how that is bad.
You must have an example where things have been made better?
I'm not talking about their resources so much as their finished products.
YOu want an example of government policy making things better?
Sure.
The Chinese government has a policy of enriching their nation though massive trade surplus.
It has made things better for them, at our expense.
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
You seem to want to be China, what is absurd?Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...I'm not talking about their resources so much as their finished products.
YOu want an example of government policy making things better?
Sure.
The Chinese government has a policy of enriching their nation though massive trade surplus.
It has made things better for them, at our expense.
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
You have quite an imagination.What do you expect to suddenly sell more of to the EU?I did. It is the cheap ass labor and poor quality of life. Tariffs have nothing to do with it.I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
Maybe, MAYBE with China, tariffs are not the issue.
But with the EU? Or Japan?
Chinese wages are a lot higher than 40 years ago. THat is success.
Everything.
I will not hold my breath until jobs at Lowes and Home Depot pay more.
Your pretense that you are so stupid that you can't imagine how a government might cheat it's trading partners in order to advance it's own nation's interests,
is rejected.
You might not be smart, but you are not that stupid.
My point stands. As you did not seriously address it.
Or, they are fucking cheating.
The problem is you are totally removing any responsibility from the citizens of this country and putting all the blame on someone else.
Nothing any foreign government did made anyone buy a single product from their country, it was a free choice on our part.
Trade policy is not an individual responsibility.
THe predatory trade policies of our trading partners, are their fault.
Our incompetent and corrupt political class also deserves some of the blame, of course.
On what do you base the claim their policies are predatory?
Various reports over the years, on the way Vat taxes work, various WTO rulings,
plus my natural suspicion on the fact that we almost ALWAYS are losing these trade balances.
We have some of the most productive workers in the world, and the most patents and technological innovation,
and yet, we always lose.
You say we always lose yet here were are 107 months into a period of economic expansion, the 2nd largest in our history and we have 3.8% unemployment with more jobs than people to fill them.
That does not sound like losing to me
You have quite an imagination.What do you expect to suddenly sell more of to the EU?I did. It is the cheap ass labor and poor quality of life. Tariffs have nothing to do with it.
Maybe, MAYBE with China, tariffs are not the issue.
But with the EU? Or Japan?
Chinese wages are a lot higher than 40 years ago. THat is success.
Everything.
Why not? Are you saying that America is inherently unable to compete?
You seem to want to be China, what is absurd?Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...I'm not talking about their resources so much as their finished products.
YOu want an example of government policy making things better?
Sure.
The Chinese government has a policy of enriching their nation though massive trade surplus.
It has made things better for them, at our expense.
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
I’m saying there are lots of products we couldn’t compete. They are quite far away, shipping alone eliminates lots of products.You have quite an imagination.What do you expect to suddenly sell more of to the EU?I did. It is the cheap ass labor and poor quality of life. Tariffs have nothing to do with it.
Maybe, MAYBE with China, tariffs are not the issue.
But with the EU? Or Japan?
Chinese wages are a lot higher than 40 years ago. THat is success.
Everything.
Why not? Are you saying that America is inherently unable to compete?
The problem is you are totally removing any responsibility from the citizens of this country and putting all the blame on someone else.
Nothing any foreign government did made anyone buy a single product from their country, it was a free choice on our part.
Trade policy is not an individual responsibility.
THe predatory trade policies of our trading partners, are their fault.
Our incompetent and corrupt political class also deserves some of the blame, of course.
On what do you base the claim their policies are predatory?
Various reports over the years, on the way Vat taxes work, various WTO rulings,
plus my natural suspicion on the fact that we almost ALWAYS are losing these trade balances.
We have some of the most productive workers in the world, and the most patents and technological innovation,
and yet, we always lose.
You say we always lose yet here were are 107 months into a period of economic expansion, the 2nd largest in our history and we have 3.8% unemployment with more jobs than people to fill them.
That does not sound like losing to me
As previous discussed, the macro economic numbers hide the damage done to the Working Poor and MIddle Class.
Why do you think our trade balance is so abysmal?
You seem to want to be China, what is absurd?Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
I pointed out that your question's premise, that taking action against Chinese imports, requires the US government to assume control of great portions of the US economy was absurd.
You did not address that.
It is still absurd.
I want those jobs for Americans.
Labor is a resource. You wish to pay more for their products? Great negotiator...I'm not talking about their resources so much as their finished products.
YOu want an example of government policy making things better?
Sure.
The Chinese government has a policy of enriching their nation though massive trade surplus.
It has made things better for them, at our expense.
You’d rather be in China then making those great wages? Maybe you like the pollution? No thanks.
I want those jobs for Americans.
I want those products built using American labor.
You claimed that government policy never makes anything better.
I gave you an example of one doing that. You want to address that?
You realize that China has a Socialist Market Economy and the central government control great portions of the economy.
Are you willing to embrace such a economic system in this country to get those jobs for Americans?
Trump could slap a complete ban on Chinese trade tomorrow, and that would in no way require that the US government assume control of great portions of the economy.
YOur question's premise, is absurd.
Actually, banning all Chinese trade would be a huge taking of control of the economy.
It would make ObamaCare look down right tame in comparison.
/——-/,Spanky, Lowe’s have them on sale 28% off. Get a brain, will ya? Your idiotic rants are pathetic Washer and Dryer at Lowe's: Stackable, Front Load, ComboWanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring
well they use to be 150 bucks and you can get one for 1000. 17% of 400 is 28. and it wouldn't be every one. dude, you have panic attacks often?That's not a little. When was the last time it increased that much?Washington compost is pathetic. The cost of washing machines increased a little? That's the thing we all should be worried about? LOL
You have quite an imagination.What do you expect to suddenly sell more of to the EU?Maybe, MAYBE with China, tariffs are not the issue.
But with the EU? Or Japan?
Chinese wages are a lot higher than 40 years ago. THat is success.
Everything.
Why not? Are you saying that America is inherently unable to compete?
107 months into a period of economic expansion, the 2nd largest in our history and we have 3.8% unemployment with more jobs than people to fill them
Sounds like more than competing, sounds like winning to me
