Watch this... Hey libs, do you have any examples of successful socialist countries? List them.

[bripat9643]

What does "isn't that bad" supposed to mean?

It means it's not a priority for you so you don't think it's that bad. I agree.

You haven't defined what "not that bad" means, dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

Once the socialism is gone, we will see a much better system than any other country.

I know what you mean. Look at all those countries that hate socialism. Nicaragua, Panama, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Haiti, - what great countries to live in...

Who says they hate socialism? I thought Brazil had a socialist president. So does Nicauragua.

 

[Norman]

Once the socialism is gone, we will see a much better system than any other country.

I know what you mean. Look at all those countries that hate socialism. Nicaragua, Panama, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Haiti, - what great countries to live in...

Who says they hate socialism? I thought Brazil had a socialist president. So does Nicauragua.

But you see, they are not TRUE socialists!!

Anyway, I think that person is a racist, he listed only non-white countries.

 

[bripat9643]

That's complete bullshit. Unfortunately USA has been consistently sliding into socialism, which the reason why the health care system is so shitty.

We'd be sliding into socialism if we had single payer.
Another idiot who went to Alex Jones University.

If that's your way of saying "factual person", then yes.

Once the socialism is gone, we will see a much better system than any other country.

This is dated around 1910, the time you want to go back to...

A much better system, who could argue against it?

Do you think they should have been playing video games back then?

Life in the 19th century was hard all over, moron, not just in capitalist USA. American kids probably had it better than anywhere in the world. Capitalism cured the horrors of the past, like child labor. It didn't create them. That's what morons like you, who know nothing about history, fail to understand.

 

[bripat9643]

That's complete bullshit. Unfortunately USA has been consistently sliding into socialism, which the reason why the health care system is so shitty.

We'd be sliding into socialism if we had single payer.
Another idiot who went to Alex Jones University.

If that's your way of saying "factual person", then yes.

Once the socialism is gone, we will see a much better system than any other country.

This is dated around 1910, the time you want to go back to...

A much better system, who could argue against it?

 

[Rustic]

Wait a minute, Nazis are socialists, as in LIBERALS?
So all those tiki torch carrying khaki pants wearing goose stepping Nazis went to the WRONG RALLY?
You need to demand a refund for your education.
(It was called the "Unite the Right" rally)

It might help if your education didn't come from internet memes.
1. Hitler didn't make that quote, it came from Gregor Strasser.
2. Strasser paid for that quote with his LIFE.
Gregor Strasser (31 May 1892 – 30 June 1934) was an early prominent German Nazi official and politician who was murdered during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934.

He also said this about Adolt Hitler:
"He is such a hysteric that they need not take him seriously, and so he will not carry out his threat unfortunately. But it is all or nothing for him now. If I know him, he will make one desperate attempt to get into power. If this fails and he does not get his way, he is finished. He will burst into pieces like a frog."

Gregor Strasser was an early member of the Nazi Party. During Adolf Hitler's imprisonment Strasser attempted to take the Nazi Party in a different ideological direction. He failed in this and in 1934 Strasser paid the price for what Hitler considered a betrayal.


YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT.

CONFIRMED.

The fact remains, the Nazi party is/was socialist and they hate/hated capitalism and embraced socialism.
Confirmed...

 

[Rustic]

So Rustic, care to actually get into a debate with me about National Socialism so I can chop off another one of your meme posting fingers?
I can make you look like an idiot while I'm sleeping.

Capitalism was strictly forbidden in Nazi(socialist) Germany.... lol

 

[Rustic]

Anyone else want to try spewing their Orwellian revisionist history of the Third Reich?
I'll take on all comers.
You MORONS couldn't debate a cold french fry...bring it, bitches.

NAZIS were RIGHT WING WHITE SUPREMACIST FASCISTS.

Na, They acted much more like left-wing socialists...
They performed genocide on Jews and Christians, and forced everyone into a collective.

 

[Rustic]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

By that definition you would have to add:

United states of America.

Wait, USA isn't so white as to be almost transparent, that was actually the list of countries with only white people.

Nope, we've been erasing all the tiny socialist tweaks that lubricated the nooks and crannies where social friction was threatening to overheat the machinery.
You might want to check the criteria and the metrics by which such "happiness" is measured.
It's closely tied to economic security, upward mobility, working class debt load, press freedom and overall health indexes.

We're somewhere around number 37 right now.

Lol
To enjoy your European socialism you have to fit into a collective, no thanks.
I’d much rather have some sort of freedom and individuality…

 

[Rustic]

Okay...you really don't know anything about China. Clearly.

Their economy is NOT socialist. Their government is. There is a difference, but you have to have a smidgen of intelligence to know this.

Are you trying to tell me that socialism is a form of government?

I think I love you. Someone as stupid as you must be loved.

As socialism has been practiced in the past, it is always imposed via government power and coercion. Right?

Define "socialism". Do you consider Canada and the UK Socialist countries, or countries with a mixed economy?

You won’t get an answer.

These freaks just want to tag anything they don’t like as “socialist” .

They are the same fools who claimed the PPACA was Socialism. They echo the bullshit of Hannity and Limbaugh and don't have a clue as to forms of economic systems.

Socialism has been tried thousands of times since the dawn of civilization, with a 100% fail rate. What do they call trying something over and over again expecting different results?

 

[Rustic]

They also can't respond once they get their asses kicked.
They go into MEME mode because they don't have documentation, they don't have facts, they don't have scientifically valid proofs, they don't have evidence. They ain't got dick except idiotic memes and whining.

Just face it people just don’t wanna join the collective, the collective has nothing to do with freedom.
Freedom and individuality cannot exist in the vacuum of socialism… Fact

 

[Rustic]

Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.

Please, list the countries.

Venezuela . . . . . . . . . . . . . er, no.
Cuba . . . . . . . . . . . . . er, no.
Somalia . . . . . . . . . . . . . er, no.
North Korea . . . . . . . . . . . . . er, no.

With the exception, maybe, of Somalia, the other three are Communist. Not socialist. There is a difference.

 

[Rustic]

Once the socialism is gone, we will see a much better system than any other country.

I know what you mean. Look at all those countries that hate socialism. Nicaragua, Panama, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Haiti, - what great countries to live in...

 

[cnm]

I don't want to go back to a time when we were much poorer.

Then why did you post the graph?

 

[cnm]

You haven't defined what "not that bad" means, dumbass.

I've done it at least twice. It means it's not a priority to you so you're not that worried. Do you need it said a fourth time?

 

[cnm]

Life in the 19th century was hard all over, moron, not just in capitalist USA. American kids probably had it better than anywhere in the world.

Yes, yes, the coal they mined was exceptional.

 

[Theowl32]

Racist libs

 

[Norman]

I don't want to go back to a time when we were much poorer.

Then why did you post the graph?

I already said, I do wish to go back in time to a period when we had less LOOTING, and more ECONOMIC GROWTH. Less than 180 T in unfunded liabilities and a other 20 in debt please.

Keep the plasma TVs, space stations and sky scrapers. The fact that you are looting contributes nothing to that.

 

[playtime]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Lol

Good mac, thank you for playing.

What do you notice about those countries? Notice anything? What?

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Lol

Good mac, thank you for playing.

What do you notice about those countries? Notice anything? What?

An overwhelming percentage of the citizens of each country I listed have spleens.

Now. Perhaps you can make a point.
.

Mac, those aren't Socialist countries, those are welfare states.

A Socialist country is one that owns/controls the means of production, and controls/dictates the price of goods through mandate.

socialism vs. social democracy


In the many years since socialism entered English around 1830, it has acquired several different meanings. It refers to a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control, but the conception of that control has varied, and the term has been interpreted in widely diverging ways, ranging from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. In the modern era, "pure" socialism has been seen only rarely and usually briefly in a few Communist regimes. Far more common are systems of social democracy, now often referred to as democratic socialism, in which extensive state regulation, with limited state ownership, has been employed by democratically elected governments (as in Sweden and Denmark) in the belief that it produces a fair distribution of income without impairing economic growth.

Definition of SOCIALISM

In other words, capitalism is socialism. Pure horseshit.

look little asswipe- straight from webster's dictionary. you know.... a DICTIONARY? you didn't even bother to see what the source was. my my- thanx for showing the class exactly why president tribblehead loves the poorly educated.

 

[georgephillip]

Can anyone find an example of a country that has ever regulated the means of production by the community as a whole as opposed to private capitalists or unelected bureaucrats?

That definition left off the usual qualifier, 'usually through the agency of the state'.

Unelected bureaucrats function as agents of the state.