Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
You've listed three problems/damages.
If those were ameliorated, are you saying that 'civil unions' are acceptable?
Look at that...STILL not a single answer to the questions posed and yet here you are AGAIN asking yet another question yourself.
I will be happy to answer your Civil Union question when you answer my two simple question I posed.
Number one...Since interracial marriage was so unpopular, should it have been ruled on by the SCOTUS, yes or no.
Number two...What is the societal harm in allowing me the rights, benefits and protections of legal, civil marriage?
Well, Sandwich....I will state that I understand your upset, and personal angst in this matter.
What indicates to you that I am "upset"? Did I intentionally mistype your screen name?
Let me try to make my belief clear.
1."What is the societal harm in allowing me the rights, benefits and protections of legal, civil marriage?"
None, in that I wouldn't know whether the couple next door is 'married' or in a civil union.
But isn't the same true in reverse....i.e., if you were accorded the financial benefits that you see as being denied, why change the definition of marriage?I
Which definition? The biblical one that says you can have multiple wives and must marry your rapist?
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The legal one which has changed continually.? (Loving v Virginia, Zablocki v Redhail & Turner v Safley)
Allowing equal access to civil marriage doesn't change the "definition" of marriage in the least. Did allowing women to vote change the "definition" of voting? Of course not.
And I would vote for a bill that gave you said benefits.
So you're willing to let us in the house if we use the back door. You don't see that as discriminatory? Blacks had the SAME water coming out of their fountains, and still separate but equal failed. Why do you think it will work now?
I'd fully support Civil Unions...if it were what ALL couples got. Legal marriage for heterosexuals and civil unions for us ain't gonna cut it.
2. Interracial marriage is in no way related to this question.
One reason is that folks are born into a race, and have no way to change same.
Discrimination is discrimination.
Homosexuality, for most, is a phase.
ROFLMAO..too incredibly stupid for response.
a. "In other words, for the minority who may have experimented with gay relationships at some juncture in their lives, well over 80% explicitly renounced homosexual (or even bisexual) self-identification by age of 35. For the clear majority of males (as well as women) who report gay encounters, homosexual activity appears to represent a passing phase, or even a fleeting episode, rather than an unshakable, genetically pre-determined orientation."
Column: Does it matter if only 1.4% of people are gay? - USATODAY.com
b. "Also interesting was the finding that by the time they get to middle age, the rate of self-identified homosexuality among women plummets well below 1%. Furthermore, between 92% of women self-identifying as homosexual and 70% of men self-identifying as homosexual have had sexual intercourse with members of the opposite sex, while only 6% of self-identified heterosexuals have had sex with a member of the same sex."
American Population: 1.4 Percent Homosexuals, TrySexuals, Who Knows? | DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf
c. "This study asks us to consider is whether impressionable young people could be persuaded by seductive others that they are genetically homosexual, when in fact they are not..." Ibid.
So there aren't enough of us for equal rights or is your argument that sexual orientation is a choice and therefore not worthy of equality? Not that either of your false premises matter. (the percentage of people who self identify as gay is 4%)
There are fewer pacific Islanders than gays and lesbians...can we keep them from legal marriage?
Religion is a choice...do we get to keep them from fundamental rights?
3. That being said, I see the solution as a political question, not a religious nor racial one.
It's a legal question, period. You can't legally discriminate because you think we're icky.