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Yes, yes you are.Not sure how you came to that conclusion,...Ah... so you admit that you ARE lying.Because you are saying really stupid stuff.So... why do you like like this to us?Very rarely. Only when they did really stupid stuff.Do you like like this to your kids?
Why don't you realize you just agreed with my statement?Be careful not to pull a muscle when you stretch that far. The cop is always a person. The laws just discriminates because of his position.And so any comparison is invalid. Thank you.Traffic laws and gun laws are not exactly the same thing....
Invalid comparisonbut traffic laws do discriminate between people for exactly the reasons you list. A cop or ambulance can, after following proper procedures, run a red light....
A cop in this context is not a person, but an actor of the state.
A cop in this context is not a person, but an actor of the state.
:roll:Because to say I agree with your statement would be just as wrong as you saying it. You can't change reality just by saying something that isn't true is.Why don't you realize you just agreed with my statement?Be careful not to pull a muscle when you stretch that far. The cop is always a person. The laws just discriminates because of his position.And so any comparison is invalid. Thank you.Traffic laws and gun laws are not exactly the same thing....
Invalid comparisonbut traffic laws do discriminate between people for exactly the reasons you list. A cop or ambulance can, after following proper procedures, run a red light....
A cop in this context is not a person, but an actor of the state.
A cop in this context is not a person, but an actor of the state.
Nearly 1.3 million people die in car crashes every year. Because our traffic laws don't prevent every death, does that mean you oppose all traffic laws? Using your logic, you should.
Why are right wingers so traitorous till they are stockpiling for a civil war? If you don't love our country then leave.
You can drive your car all you want without obeying any traffic laws or getting a license, providing you are not on public streets.
Public streets are paid for by pubic funds and therefore subject to public traffic laws and a license requirement. That is not the same as the right to keep and bear arms. Apples and oranges.
The right to keep and bear arms is a Constitutionally protected right that has no qualifications or licensing requirements to it. In fact it was created because it is "necessary to the security of a free state". It says so right there in the Bill of Rights.
The Secondment Amendment is the only license I need to keep and bear arms and it doesn't say a damn thing about registration, background checks, assault weapon bans or restrictions on the size of magazines. Nothing about restricting handguns or having to get a concealed weapons permit. In fact the only thing it really says is that my right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is pretty straightforward, isn't it? However, I am always amazed at how such a simple statement is always beyond the ability of a Moon Bat to understand.
Cut through the crap. Nobody is trying to stop reasonable gun use. You want military style weapons for the war you want to have with the government. Bunch of crazies led by traitors.
Just because they quote the founders on why they have that right, does not mean that they want to go to war with the government.
Yes I'm sure that a small amount wants to do that but not the Majority of Americans.
By the way, there is a small amount of crazies on both sides.
Oh look... an admission that regstration is indeed a tool for confiscation.1. If the goal is to confiscate guns, ALL background checks would contain a registration clause as well as much stronger limitations.
And you wonder why thinking people oppose registration.
Why do you lie to yourself?If you think that Is what I said, you are stupid.Oh look... an admission that regstration is indeed a tool for confiscation.1. If the goal is to confiscate guns, ALL background checks would contain a registration clause as well as much stronger limitations.
And you wonder why thinking people oppose registration.
Universal background checks would reduce profits for the gun manufacturers?Because it would reduce profit for gun manufacturers
You obviously aren't thinking as this is an inane assertion.
Just because it's more complex than you are comfortable with doesn't mean it is inane.
1. Gun nuts see background checks as evidence of "THEY'RE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
2. Gun nuts frantically say "I HAVE TO BUY MORE GUNS NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
3. Gun manufacturers make a fortune.
4. Gun manufacturers give the NRA lots of money to keep telling the GUN NUTS that "THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
For the NRA and gun manufacturers, they see it as "THE CIRCLE OF LIFE?
1. Gun enthusiasts look at prior history and understand that gun registration is the first step. The
MAJORITY of background check schemes contain a gun registration clause. Not all. But most.
2. Gun enthusiasts already have guns so the people buying them now are those who didn't have them
before. Overwhelmingly when I go to a gunshop for something it is newbys buying the guns.
3. Gun manufacturers have never made a "fortune". They do contribute around 31 billion to the
economy and amazingly enough they employ more people than GM.
4. Gun manufacturers certainly advertise with the NRA but the politicians do more for gun sales than
any manufacturer ever does.
1. If the goal is to confiscate guns, ALL background checks would contain a registration clause as well as much stronger limitations.
2. 20% of gun owners own 65% of the guns. I am included in that group. Gun owners buy more guns. Others, not so much.
3. Bullshit.
4. Several politicians are owned by gun manufacturers as well. It's called diversification of assets.
The eventual goal is confiscation. There is no doubt of that. That's why the 2nd Amendment was written in the first place. The Founders understood that government eventually views it's citizens as threats and they wrote the Constitution to make the process take as long as possible. That much is very clear.
That's possible. The American Revolution was started by 3% of the population. An equally unimportant number.
Fact.
Politicians are bought and paid for by special interests all the time. How many Dems dose Steyr, Bloomberg and Soros have in their pockets? How many in the hands of the Kochs? Don't you find it interesting that it is the billionaires who are pushing gun control? I wonder why?
The NRA serves a valuable purpose
Their mission is to ensure that gun owners have the right tools for the job. A gun is nothing more than a tool
Suppose you want to shoot up a classroom or a movie theater? You can't do the job right without a semiautomatic assault rifle with high capacity magazines....thank the NRA
Suppose you are confronted with cops wearing that pesky body armor? You need armor piercing rounds to do the job right.......thank the NRA
Suppose you are bat shit crazy with delusions of mass murder? You need unfettered access to the weapons of your choice.......thank the NRA
You do know that all of those activities are against current gun laws as created by past anti gun nuts........and yet you are still bitching about them....and it is against current law to shoot up a classroom or theater,
It is against the law to shoot police officers....
It is against the law to buy a gun if you are a nut......
And yet...you anti gun nuts still aren't happy...........
Of course it is against the law
The NRA doesn't care about what tools are available to you to break the law.
Now, suppose you want to shoot up a classroom full of first graders. Everyone knows it is against the law. The guy doing it will probably kill himself anyway so the law does not matter to him
So, whats the best weapon to use for slaughtering first graders? You wouldn't want a single shot muzzle loader...too inefficient
The best weapon for slaughtering first graders is one of those semi-automatic (you can alter it to go full auto) assault rifles (gotta look cool while you mow down first graders) with a 35-50 round magazine
Thank the NRA that you can still go to your local gun shop and buy one
Universal background checks would reduce profits for the gun manufacturers?
You obviously aren't thinking as this is an inane assertion.
Just because it's more complex than you are comfortable with doesn't mean it is inane.
1. Gun nuts see background checks as evidence of "THEY'RE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
2. Gun nuts frantically say "I HAVE TO BUY MORE GUNS NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
3. Gun manufacturers make a fortune.
4. Gun manufacturers give the NRA lots of money to keep telling the GUN NUTS that "THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
For the NRA and gun manufacturers, they see it as "THE CIRCLE OF LIFE?
1. Gun enthusiasts look at prior history and understand that gun registration is the first step. The
MAJORITY of background check schemes contain a gun registration clause. Not all. But most.
2. Gun enthusiasts already have guns so the people buying them now are those who didn't have them
before. Overwhelmingly when I go to a gunshop for something it is newbys buying the guns.
3. Gun manufacturers have never made a "fortune". They do contribute around 31 billion to the
economy and amazingly enough they employ more people than GM.
4. Gun manufacturers certainly advertise with the NRA but the politicians do more for gun sales than
any manufacturer ever does.
1. If the goal is to confiscate guns, ALL background checks would contain a registration clause as well as much stronger limitations.
2. 20% of gun owners own 65% of the guns. I am included in that group. Gun owners buy more guns. Others, not so much.
3. Bullshit.
4. Several politicians are owned by gun manufacturers as well. It's called diversification of assets.
The eventual goal is confiscation. There is no doubt of that. That's why the 2nd Amendment was written in the first place. The Founders understood that government eventually views it's citizens as threats and they wrote the Constitution to make the process take as long as possible. That much is very clear.
That's possible. The American Revolution was started by 3% of the population. An equally unimportant number.
Fact.
Politicians are bought and paid for by special interests all the time. How many Dems dose Steyr, Bloomberg and Soros have in their pockets? How many in the hands of the Kochs? Don't you find it interesting that it is the billionaires who are pushing gun control? I wonder why?
So you are preparing for a revolution. Why didn't you just say that to start with? Here I was diligently trying to figure out what rational reason you could have to be so adamant, when all along you are just another crazy traitor who wants to overthrow the government. At least we settled that. Now you can go back to your crazy tinfoil hat conspiracies, and I don't have to bother wasting any more time wondering if you are sane or not. Win win.
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For once, be honest. Why specifically do you feel so strongly about having no restrictions on gun ownership? The normal usages, such as hunting, sport shooting, reasonable self protection, etc. are not harmed or endangered in any way by reasonable regulation. The only other reason I can think of is that you fear either an invasion from some outside country, or an internal overthrow of our government, or it is just another front to fight your political battles. Let's get past the nit picking. Tell me what your real reason is.
Just because it's more complex than you are comfortable with doesn't mean it is inane.
1. Gun nuts see background checks as evidence of "THEY'RE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
2. Gun nuts frantically say "I HAVE TO BUY MORE GUNS NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
3. Gun manufacturers make a fortune.
4. Gun manufacturers give the NRA lots of money to keep telling the GUN NUTS that "THEY ARE COMING TO GET OUR GUNS"
For the NRA and gun manufacturers, they see it as "THE CIRCLE OF LIFE?
1. Gun enthusiasts look at prior history and understand that gun registration is the first step. The
MAJORITY of background check schemes contain a gun registration clause. Not all. But most.
2. Gun enthusiasts already have guns so the people buying them now are those who didn't have them
before. Overwhelmingly when I go to a gunshop for something it is newbys buying the guns.
3. Gun manufacturers have never made a "fortune". They do contribute around 31 billion to the
economy and amazingly enough they employ more people than GM.
4. Gun manufacturers certainly advertise with the NRA but the politicians do more for gun sales than
any manufacturer ever does.
1. If the goal is to confiscate guns, ALL background checks would contain a registration clause as well as much stronger limitations.
2. 20% of gun owners own 65% of the guns. I am included in that group. Gun owners buy more guns. Others, not so much.
3. Bullshit.
4. Several politicians are owned by gun manufacturers as well. It's called diversification of assets.
The eventual goal is confiscation. There is no doubt of that. That's why the 2nd Amendment was written in the first place. The Founders understood that government eventually views it's citizens as threats and they wrote the Constitution to make the process take as long as possible. That much is very clear.
That's possible. The American Revolution was started by 3% of the population. An equally unimportant number.
Fact.
Politicians are bought and paid for by special interests all the time. How many Dems dose Steyr, Bloomberg and Soros have in their pockets? How many in the hands of the Kochs? Don't you find it interesting that it is the billionaires who are pushing gun control? I wonder why?
So you are preparing for a revolution. Why didn't you just say that to start with? Here I was diligently trying to figure out what rational reason you could have to be so adamant, when all along you are just another crazy traitor who wants to overthrow the government. At least we settled that. Now you can go back to your crazy tinfoil hat conspiracies, and I don't have to bother wasting any more time wondering if you are sane or not. Win win.
Not at all. The fact that there are guns in the hands of the citizenry ensures that there is NO NEED for a revolution. See how that works?
You told us why you lie to us, but I need to ask againSo you are preparing for a revolution. Why didn't you just say that to start with? Here I was diligently trying to figure out what rational reason you could have to be so adamant, when all along you are just another crazy traitor who wants to overthrow the government. At least we settled that. Now you can go back to your crazy tinfoil hat conspiracies, and I don't have to bother wasting any more time wondering if you are sane or not. Win win.
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For once, be honest. Why specifically do you feel so strongly about having no restrictions on gun ownership? The normal usages, such as hunting, sport shooting, reasonable self protection, etc. are not harmed or endangered in any way by reasonable regulation. The only other reason I can think of is that you fear either an invasion from some outside country, or an internal overthrow of our government, or it is just another front to fight your political battles. Let's get past the nit picking. Tell me what your real reason is.
I have no fear of much of anything nowadays.
I think the government is totally out of control and oppressive to the American people but I am not going to storm the White House with my ARs a blazing.
I feel safe in my home and community and I very seldom use my carry weapon.
I have all the weapons I will ever need for the range, self defense or even a militia action. In fact I could almost arm my entire neighborhood. I am at the point of having enough ammo I can shoot the rest of my life without buying another round.
I just don't like the government telling me what I can and cannot do, especially with a Constitutionally protected right. The filthy ass government controls too much of my life already.
To me registration, background checks etc are me having to get permission from the government to enjoy a right that the Bill of Rights says shall not be infringed. That sucks.
I also think that gun controls laws are ineffective in stopping any kind of crime. The evidence for that is overwhelming. All gun laws do is make it more difficult and costly for the law abiding citizen to enjoy his Constitutional rights while doing nothing to stop crime.
It is a feel good thing for the Libtards that doesn't amount to anything substantial but it does restrict the rights of Americans.
I have the Constitutionally right to keep and bear arms. The government needs to leave me alone.
If you are afraid of guns then that is fine. Restrict yourself all you want. Leave me out of it.
There no logic involved at all here as traffic laws are not intended to prevent deaths.[
Nearly 1.3 million people die in car crashes every year. Because our traffic laws don't prevent every death, does that mean you oppose all traffic laws? Using your logic, you should.
Laws cannot prevent people form breaking the law; any such law is passed to no good purpose.
laws that restrict the exercise of a right to no good purpose violate the constitution.
Nearly 1.3 million people die in car crashes every year. Because our traffic laws don't prevent every death, does that mean you oppose all traffic laws? Using your logic, you should.
Why are right wingers so traitorous till they are stockpiling for a civil war? If you don't love our country then leave.
You can drive your car all you want without obeying any traffic laws or getting a license, providing you are not on public streets.
Public streets are paid for by pubic funds and therefore subject to public traffic laws and a license requirement. That is not the same as the right to keep and bear arms. Apples and oranges.
The right to keep and bear arms is a Constitutionally protected right that has no qualifications or licensing requirements to it. In fact it was created because it is "necessary to the security of a free state". It says so right there in the Bill of Rights.
The Secondment Amendment is the only license I need to keep and bear arms and it doesn't say a damn thing about registration, background checks, assault weapon bans or restrictions on the size of magazines. Nothing about restricting handguns or having to get a concealed weapons permit. In fact the only thing it really says is that my right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is pretty straightforward, isn't it? However, I am always amazed at how such a simple statement is always beyond the ability of a Moon Bat to understand.
Cut through the crap. Nobody is trying to stop reasonable gun use. You want military style weapons for the war you want to have with the government. Bunch of crazies led by traitors.
Just because they quote the founders on why they have that right, does not mean that they want to go to war with the government.
Yes I'm sure that a small amount wants to do that but not the Majority of Americans.
By the way, there is a small amount of crazies on both sides.
Well what is the problem. Saying the government wants to confiscate all guns is definitely in the crazy category.
Nearly 1.3 million people die in car crashes every year. Because our traffic laws don't prevent every death, does that mean you oppose all traffic laws? Using your logic, you should.
Why are right wingers so traitorous till they are stockpiling for a civil war? If you don't love our country then leave.
You can drive your car all you want without obeying any traffic laws or getting a license, providing you are not on public streets.
Public streets are paid for by pubic funds and therefore subject to public traffic laws and a license requirement. That is not the same as the right to keep and bear arms. Apples and oranges.
The right to keep and bear arms is a Constitutionally protected right that has no qualifications or licensing requirements to it. In fact it was created because it is "necessary to the security of a free state". It says so right there in the Bill of Rights.
The Secondment Amendment is the only license I need to keep and bear arms and it doesn't say a damn thing about registration, background checks, assault weapon bans or restrictions on the size of magazines. Nothing about restricting handguns or having to get a concealed weapons permit. In fact the only thing it really says is that my right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is pretty straightforward, isn't it? However, I am always amazed at how such a simple statement is always beyond the ability of a Moon Bat to understand.
Cut through the crap. Nobody is trying to stop reasonable gun use. You want military style weapons for the war you want to have with the government. Bunch of crazies led by traitors.
Just because they quote the founders on why they have that right, does not mean that they want to go to war with the government.
Yes I'm sure that a small amount wants to do that but not the Majority of Americans.
By the way, there is a small amount of crazies on both sides.
Well what is the problem. Saying the government wants to confiscate all guns is definitely in the crazy category.
When the government bans certain sales of popular guns and bullets that is a form of taking away your guns.
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For once, be honest. Why specifically do you feel so strongly about having no restrictions on gun ownership? The normal usages, such as hunting, sport shooting, reasonable self protection, etc. are not harmed or endangered in any way by reasonable regulation. The only other reason I can think of is that you fear either an invasion from some outside country, or an internal overthrow of our government, or it is just another front to fight your political battles. Let's get past the nit picking. Tell me what your real reason is.
I have no fear of much of anything nowadays.
I think the government is totally out of control and oppressive to the American people but I am not going to storm the White House with my ARs a blazing.
I feel safe in my home and community and I very seldom use my carry weapon.
I have all the weapons I will ever need for the range, self defense or even a militia action. In fact I could almost arm my entire neighborhood. I am at the point of having enough ammo I can shoot the rest of my life without buying another round.
I just don't like the government telling me what I can and cannot do, especially with a Constitutionally protected right. The filthy ass government controls too much of my life already.
To me registration, background checks etc are me having to get permission from the government to enjoy a right that the Bill of Rights says shall not be infringed. That sucks.
I also think that gun controls laws are ineffective in stopping any kind of crime. The evidence for that is overwhelming. All gun laws do is make it more difficult and costly for the law abiding citizen to enjoy his Constitutional rights while doing nothing to stop crime.
It is a feel good thing for the Libtards that doesn't amount to anything substantial but it does restrict the rights of Americans.
I have the Constitutionally right to keep and bear arms. The government needs to leave me alone.
If you are afraid of guns then that is fine. Restrict yourself all you want. Leave me out of it.
OK. Just a heads up for you. The price of tin foil was up 12 cents at the store this morning. Does that mean the restrictive government is trying to ban your fashionable hats? Better start hoarding that along with your bullets. You don't want to be caught hatless when they start targeting you with those gamma rays.
"No good purpose" in that there is no sound reason to have a law.that tries to prevent people from breaking a law, because no law can do so. Laws that cannot achieve there intended effect serve only to restrict without providing benefit.Define "good purpose".There no logic involved at all here as traffic laws are not intended to prevent deaths.[
Nearly 1.3 million people die in car crashes every year. Because our traffic laws don't prevent every death, does that mean you oppose all traffic laws? Using your logic, you should.
Laws cannot prevent people form breaking the law; any such law is passed to no good purpose.
laws that restrict the exercise of a right to no good purpose violate the constitution.
The NRA serves a valuable purpose
Their mission is to ensure that gun owners have the right tools for the job. A gun is nothing more than a tool
Suppose you want to shoot up a classroom or a movie theater? You can't do the job right without a semiautomatic assault rifle with high capacity magazines....thank the NRA
Suppose you are confronted with cops wearing that pesky body armor? You need armor piercing rounds to do the job right.......thank the NRA
Suppose you are bat shit crazy with delusions of mass murder? You need unfettered access to the weapons of your choice.......thank the NRA
You do know that all of those activities are against current gun laws as created by past anti gun nuts........and yet you are still bitching about them....and it is against current law to shoot up a classroom or theater,
It is against the law to shoot police officers....
It is against the law to buy a gun if you are a nut......
And yet...you anti gun nuts still aren't happy...........
Of course it is against the law
The NRA doesn't care about what tools are available to you to break the law.
Now, suppose you want to shoot up a classroom full of first graders. Everyone knows it is against the law. The guy doing it will probably kill himself anyway so the law does not matter to him
So, whats the best weapon to use for slaughtering first graders? You wouldn't want a single shot muzzle loader...too inefficient
The best weapon for slaughtering first graders is one of those semi-automatic (you can alter it to go full auto) assault rifles (gotta look cool while you mow down first graders) with a 35-50 round magazine
Thank the NRA that you can still go to your local gun shop and buy one
He lies to us and he lies to himself -- what do you expect?[
For once, be honest. Why specifically do you feel so strongly about having no restrictions on gun ownership? The normal usages, such as hunting, sport shooting, reasonable self protection, etc. are not harmed or endangered in any way by reasonable regulation. The only other reason I can think of is that you fear either an invasion from some outside country, or an internal overthrow of our government, or it is just another front to fight your political battles. Let's get past the nit picking. Tell me what your real reason is.
I have no fear of much of anything nowadays.
I think the government is totally out of control and oppressive to the American people but I am not going to storm the White House with my ARs a blazing.
I feel safe in my home and community and I very seldom use my carry weapon.
I have all the weapons I will ever need for the range, self defense or even a militia action. In fact I could almost arm my entire neighborhood. I am at the point of having enough ammo I can shoot the rest of my life without buying another round.
I just don't like the government telling me what I can and cannot do, especially with a Constitutionally protected right. The filthy ass government controls too much of my life already.
To me registration, background checks etc are me having to get permission from the government to enjoy a right that the Bill of Rights says shall not be infringed. That sucks.
I also think that gun controls laws are ineffective in stopping any kind of crime. The evidence for that is overwhelming. All gun laws do is make it more difficult and costly for the law abiding citizen to enjoy his Constitutional rights while doing nothing to stop crime.
It is a feel good thing for the Libtards that doesn't amount to anything substantial but it does restrict the rights of Americans.
I have the Constitutionally right to keep and bear arms. The government needs to leave me alone.
If you are afraid of guns then that is fine. Restrict yourself all you want. Leave me out of it.
OK. Just a heads up for you. The price of tin foil was up 12 cents at the store this morning. Does that mean the restrictive government is trying to ban your fashionable hats? Better start hoarding that along with your bullets. You don't want to be caught hatless when they start targeting you with those gamma rays.
I was honest in my answer and you responded will some silly shit so fuck you.
