"What did we do to make them so angry at US?"

[kaz]

Why would they? when is the last time we attacked a white Christian nation?

When was the last time a white Christian nation attacked us?

Again why would they? When did Iraq attack us?

Even as a fellow opponent of the wars in the middle east, if you seriously think the difference between Christian fundamentalists and Muslim fundamentalists is what you say it is then you're a moron.

 

[Carla_Danger]

They hate us and want us dead.
Who?... Muslims.A lot of them.

Why....

Who the fuck knows at this point.

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

Mexico does occupy the US so it's okay to hate Mexico? Good to know that.

Hate causes cancer, just so you know.

 

[Truthseeker420]

When was the last time a white Christian nation attacked us?

Again why would they? When did Iraq attack us?

Even as a fellow opponent of the wars in the middle east, if you seriously think the difference between Christian fundamentalists and Muslim fundamentalists is what you say it is then you're a moron.

What do you think I "say it is"?

 

[Darkwind]

They hate us and want us dead.
Who?... Muslims.A lot of them.

Why....

Who the fuck knows at this point.

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

 

[kaz]

Again why would they? When did Iraq attack us?

Even as a fellow opponent of the wars in the middle east, if you seriously think the difference between Christian fundamentalists and Muslim fundamentalists is what you say it is then you're a moron.

What do you think I "say it is"?

That the difference is that we have attacked Muslim countries and not Christian ones. You weren't listening to what you were saying when you said that?

Muslim terrorists are attacking across the world, not just us. And Christian terrorism is pretty non-existent. There is no cause and effect in your statement. There is no point at all.

 

[cereal_killer]

They hate us and want us dead.
Who?... Muslims.A lot of them.

Why....

Who the fuck knows at this point.

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

So if your neighbor was into terrorist activities and they drone struck his home and blew the crap out of your house and family killing everyone when you were at work you'd be OK with that? They shrug their shoulders and called the killing of your family "acceptable collateral damage" How would you feel about that?

How about your kids are playing in the neighborhood and get caught in the middle of a firefight and are killed by the occupying forces who are fighting your other neighbor who is fighting for the US (aka insurgent), you'd be OK with that?

 

[candycorn]

wonder if they are contemplating this at the Friday Harvard Afternoon Tea or Happy Hour? That's all we heard when US was being attacked during the Bush years. Drink up 1% Harvard!!

Who cares.

 

[PredFan]

The answer to that question is the same as it has always been. Before Obama, before Bush, and possibly even before Clinton.

It isn't a all-encompassing answer, it doesn't speak for the intentions of every single muslim terrorist, but it covers the general reasons.

The answer is that we are NOT a Muslim nation, and we are the most powerful nation both in the military and economic arenas. Naturally, that makes us the target.

For Islamic extremists, getting the entire world into the Muslim faith is their goal, and we are a major obstacle.

 

[Redfish]

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

So if your neighbor was into terrorist activities and they drone struck his home and blew the crap out of your house and family killing everyone when you were at work you'd be OK with that? They shrug their shoulders and called the killing of your family "acceptable collateral damage" How would you feel about that?

How about your kids are playing in the neighborhood and get caught in the middle of a firefight and are killed by the occupying forces who are fighting your other neighbor who is fighting for the US (aka insurgent), you'd be OK with that?

innocents die in wars. always have, always will. the goal is to end the war quickly and have the enemy lose more people than we do.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

So if your neighbor was into terrorist activities and they drone struck his home and blew the crap out of your house and family killing everyone when you were at work you'd be OK with that? They shrug their shoulders and called the killing of your family "acceptable collateral damage" How would you feel about that?

How about your kids are playing in the neighborhood and get caught in the middle of a firefight and are killed by the occupying forces who are fighting your other neighbor who is fighting for the US (aka insurgent), you'd be OK with that?

dumbshit drones are NEW, been around for a few years......this goes way farther back than that, You realize history doesnt start the day you're born, right?

 

[cereal_killer]

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

So if your neighbor was into terrorist activities and they drone struck his home and blew the crap out of your house and family killing everyone when you were at work you'd be OK with that? They shrug their shoulders and called the killing of your family "acceptable collateral damage" How would you feel about that?

How about your kids are playing in the neighborhood and get caught in the middle of a firefight and are killed by the occupying forces who are fighting your other neighbor who is fighting for the US (aka insurgent), you'd be OK with that?

dumbshit drones are NEW, been around for a few years......this goes way farther back than that, You realize history doesnt start the day you're born, right?

Answer the question. Yes or no?

 

[Esmeralda]

Posted at 07:10 PM ET, 09/21/2012 Sep 21, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

TheWashingtonPost Why Muslims hate America
By Qasim Rashid
As an American Muslim activist, I receive this question all too often: “America is about freedom, free speech, and democracy—why do Muslims hate us?” The question is not at all why they hate us, but why don’t we get it.

Many of age Americans remember Sept. 11, 2001—a day we justly cried out for freedom, free speech, and democracy. Fewer, however, remember Sept. 11, 1973 when America backed dictator Augusto Pinochet’s forces to overthrow and kill Chile’s democratically elected President Salvador Allende.

Many of age Americans remember March 20, 2003, the day America preemptively invaded and obliterated Iraq to unseat dictator Saddam Hussein—while killing 100,000 Iraqi civilians. Fewer, however, remember the December 1983 meeting between Donald Rumsfeld and Hussein, designed to emphasize America’s “close relationship” with Iraq as an ally. The regime America destroyed in 2003, American tax dollars built two decades prior.

Few Americans remember that America long supported Libya’s dictator Moammar Gaddafi before citing democracy to wash our hands clean. We championed Egypt’s dictator Hosni Mubarak before demanding his arrest and conviction. We supported Pakistan’s dictator General Zia—who helped Talibanize Pakistan and was the brainchild of Pakistan’s infamous blasphemy laws that suffocate free speech. A mysterious plane crash ended Zia’s reign, robbing our State Department the opportunity to personally crucify him.

In viewing America through this foreign policy lens, freedom, free speech, and democracy suddenly seem blurry. So why do “they” hate us? It should be obvious by now. Opportunistic clerics find little difficulty pointing to this suspect American government foreign policy as examples of the American people worldview. Citizens of such nations view anti-Islam propaganda emerging from the United States as stemming from the US. government itself—not private citizens. Thus, the U.S. Embassy in Libya needed to actively disassociate from the vitriol spewed in Innocence of Muslims—not to apologize for free speech, but to clearly demonstrate that they did not endorse the message conveyed.

And this is not just about “thin-skinned” Muslims. Americans must recognize that our free speech model is unique—and not just unique from the Muslim world. European nations, for example, impose limitations that Americans would consider First Amendment violations. In Germany, publicly denying the Holocaust earns a prison sentence. The United Kingdom enforces anti-trolling laws, making it illegal to create a website for the sole purpose of mocking a living person. Citing cultural supremacy, France has banned Muslim women from wearing a veil in public—enforcing a government-mandated dress code. (Yet, France strangely applies a different standard to justify publishing vitriolic anti-Islam cartoons).

Our image in many Muslim majority nations is that of a people who support dictators when convenient for oil and economic gain and overthrow them when not—all the while preaching the free speech, democracy, and freedom that we don’t practice.

But lest we be guilty of speaking in generalities, “they” who hate us, still actually represent the vast minority of the Muslim world. Last June, several dozen Muslim leaders representing numerous different Islamic organizations convened at a Capitol Hill summit on Islam and world peace. His Holiness, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, head of the worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community delivered the keynote address, after which the House passed a bipartisan resolution commending him for promoting “individual and world peace, and individual and world justice.” Congressman Frank Wolf of Virginia thanked Ahmad for “supporting a special envoy to advocate for religious minorities in Middle East.” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi remarked, “You spoke out on violence and tolerance even among Muslims because calling for the destruction of churches and synagogues is a violation of human rights.” Likewise, Minn. Congressman Keith Ellison added, “We’re honored by your presence…under your leadership the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has been a true blessing for us here in the U.S.”

Free speech is crucial to any society’s growth and maturation—but must be exercised responsibly. And since true freedom abhors enforced civility, Muslims must actively educate themselves. Ignorance to America’s free speech principles and anger at America’s unjust foreign policy are not excuses for Muslims to respond to mockery with violence. Islam categorically forbids such violence. Prophet Muhammad, accordingly, demonstrated a life of patience in the face of insults and persecution—even forgiving those who previously attempted to assassinate his person. Why then, should violence be the response to those who attempt to assassinate his character?

So please, enough of the questions. Muslims do not hate America. Muslims in the East, like non-Muslim Americans in the West, both hate injustice. Peace is possible despite free speech differences—but only by joining together against injustice.

Qasim Rashid is a leader for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA. Follow him on Twitter @MuslimIQ or email at [email protected]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...20dd22e-043f-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_blog.html

 

[Pop23]

Drone strikes that kill hundreds of innocent women and children, occupying their countries and killing more innocents while engaging "insurgents" will never win us any friends. If another country were to occupy the US they'd have a huge "insurgent" problem as well.

This bs about them hating us because of our freedoms is just that......bs

You do realize that those who attack us are the ones responsible for those drone attacks on civilians, right? When you hide among women and children, your women and children are going to die. We will not stop simply because they use their families as human shields.

So if your neighbor was into terrorist activities and they drone struck his home and blew the crap out of your house and family killing everyone when you were at work you'd be OK with that? They shrug their shoulders and called the killing of your family "acceptable collateral damage" How would you feel about that?

How about your kids are playing in the neighborhood and get caught in the middle of a firefight and are killed by the occupying forces who are fighting your other neighbor who is fighting for the US (aka insurgent), you'd be OK with that?

No, I would not be OK with it, but I do know who I would blame, certainly it would not be the people that did the drone attack. It would be the terror group.

Why even ask? A terror group would likely not think for a second in killing my family anyway.

 

[Redfish]

One of the main reasons is America's total, almost unquestioning support of Israel.

should we dump them and let the muslims eliminate them? because if we pull out, thats what will happen.

 

[georgephillip]

I bet liberals if given the chance for a "re do" would vote to let Saddam keep the woodchoppers humming 24/7, and why not gas a few more Kurds and invade Kuwait again,kill their people and steal their oil, I bet all liberals will vote not to lift a finger to protect S. Korea from the N. Korean aggressors..




don't you just love the liberals who blame America first?

Liberals wouldn't need a redo to remove Saddam's Iraq from the State Departments nations that support terrorism list, but the Gipper would.

"Reagan took the first step in November 1983 when he removed Iraq from the U.S. government's official list of 'nations that support international terrorism.' That opened the door to full diplomatic and economic cooperation between Iraq and the United States.

"The next month he sent an emissary to Baghdad bearing a personal letter for Saddam. That emissary was none other than current Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld."

Iraqi General: US Helped Us as We Used Chemical Weapons - by Aaron Glantz

 

[9thIDdoc]

It matters very much what these attackers think.


Its is dumb beyond words to trash people for trying to understand the threat

"Trying to understand the threat" is by no means the same thing as trying to understand why they are mad at us. Nor are either the same as caring why they are mad at us. Apples and oranges

 

[boedicca]

It matters very much what these attackers think.


Its is dumb beyond words to trash people for trying to understand the threat

refusing to admit the real threat because of political correctness is why the Boston bombings happened.

until we decide to profile all muslims and seal our borders, this kind of thing will continue to happen

Yesterday was the 18th anniversary of the OKC bombing, done by an ex military, right wing extremist. Should we profile all right wing military men? Just curious, you idiot.

Oh yes...because the number 18 has special mystical significance in the secret texts of the Church of the ExMilitary Right Wing Extremists.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

[ame=http://youtu.be/92myDzAFgU4]"Death to America" chants in Iran - YouTube[/ame]

 

[boedicca]

only if they exhibit mental illness symptoms. Then they should be put in mental institutions for their own and everyone else's protection. McVeigh was mentally ill.

Hassan was on a jihad.

Do you comprehend the difference?

No he was not. If he were mentally ill, they would not have tried and executed him. He was not mentally ill. Now, I'm guessing you have a link, or you just pulled that right out of your ass.

anyone that would blow up hundreds of innocent kids is mentally ill.

And yet the DroneKiller is still President.

Go figure.

 

[kaz]

Yesterday was the 18th anniversary of the OKC bombing, done by an ex military, right wing extremist. Should we profile all right wing military men? Just curious, you idiot.

Muslim extremists

- 9/11
- Spain train bombings
- Israel - Endless rockets, bombs put in ambulances, bombs strapped to kids, bombings on buses, cafe's, grocery stores, ...
- Two American African embassies attacked
- Attacks on police and civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq
- Terrorist cells in Brittan
- Boston Marathon
- Terrorist attacks in France and Italy
- Attack on disco in Germany
- Blowing up airliner over Scotland
- ...

Right wing extremists:

- Oklahoma City
- Um ... help me here ...

I see why you'd equate those groups.