What Fascism Is and What It Isn't

[MarcATL]

Marc here is what the Britannica Dictionary definition of Fascism is : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government........that can be a far left government too....

See? Couldn't help yourself but to insert the left in there, even though they have nothing to do w/this.

So does that Britannica article mention anything regarding the left as it concerns to fascism?

 

[MarcATL]

MAGA republicans are now home grown terrorists.
Marc won't be able to wrap his head around that definition you gave, Harry.

Partisan, how does what Harry posted differ to what I posted?

 

[bripat9643]

Marc here is what the Britannica Dictionary definition of Fascism is : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government........that can be a far left government too....

It can only be leftwing government. The right opposes government control.

 

[The Original Tree]

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]

As it relates to business, here's how it intersects....

1. Major Italian groups politically on the right, especially rich landowners and big business, feared an uprising by groups on the left, such as sharecroppers and labour unions.[67] They welcomed Fascism and supported its violent suppression of opponents on the left.[68] The accommodation of the political right into the Italian Fascist movement in the early 1920s created internal factions within the movement.
2. The ANI held ties and influence among conservatives, Catholics, and the business community.[108] Italian national syndicalists held a common set of principles: the rejection of bourgeois values, democracy, liberalism, Marxism, internationalism, and pacifism, and the promotion of heroism, vitalism, and violence.[109] The ANI claimed that liberal democracy was no longer compatible with the modern world, and advocated a strong state and imperialism. They believed that humans are naturally predatory, and that nations are in a constant struggle in which only the strongest would survive.[110]
3. In 1920, militant strike activity by industrial workers reached its peak in Italy and 1919 and 1920 were known as the "Red Year" (Biennio Rosso).[136] Mussolini and the Fascists took advantage of the situation by allying with industrial businesses and attacking workers and peasants in the name of preserving order and internal peace in Italy.[137]
4. Historian Stanley G. Payne says: "[Fascism in Italy was a] primarily political dictatorship. ... The Fascist Party itself had become almost completely bureaucratized and subservient to, not dominant over, the state itself. Big business, industry, and finance retained extensive autonomy, particularly in the early years. The armed forces also enjoyed considerable autonomy. ... The Fascist militia was placed under military control. ... The judicial system was left largely intact and relatively autonomous as well. The police continued to be directed by state officials and were not taken over by party leaders ... nor was a major new police elite created.
5. Due to the worldwide depression, Mussolini's government was able to take over most of Italy's largest failing banks, who held controlling interest in many Italian businesses.
6. Source: Fascism - Wikipedia

It isn't what some have been pretending it to be of late.

Let's go deeper. There's a political party in America who's members are characterized by the belief in at least 2 or more of the following...

• Ultranationalist
• Militarism
• Forcible suppression of opposition
• Belief in a natural social hierarchy
• Subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race
• Strong regimentation of society and the economy

Anyone care to guess which American political party that is?!??

This one is easy.

Replace words in a Lefty's Post every time a DemNazi Fascist says MAGA, Deplorable, Russian Collusion, Red Neck, Right Wing, Alt Right, Election Denier, Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper, Anti Vaxxer, Conservative, or January 6th with "DIRTY JOOS" and you know now exactly what these people are.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm so sick of Trump worshipers telling us we worship government. Or spinning things like affirmative action and saying it's racist....to white people. You guys can spin anything. I suppose the insurrection was the most patriotic thing Trump could have done. In your blind eyes.

bobo you are one of the bigger racist on this board and you have said AA is racist.....and you never have anything nice to say about those in the ghetto....

 

[Meister]

Partisan, how does what Harry posted differ to what I posted?

Because you are living with your fascist party right now. Don't be so dense, stooge.

 

[The Original Tree]

 

[Harry Dresden]

How apropos seeing as how they're all vampires.

that is not true of all vampires....it depends on who is writing the book.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

MAGA republicans are now home grown terrorists.
Marc won't be able to wrap his head around that definition you gave, Harry.

yea biden mr "uniter" sure united people with that one.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

See? Couldn't help yourself but to insert the left in there, even though they have nothing to do w/this.

So does that Britannica article mention anything regarding the left as it concerns to fascism?

the definition i read from them did not mention right or left...you cant see that from the left marc...BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING ONE OF THEM.....i have told you this more than once....

 

[Harry Dresden]

It can only be leftwing government. The right opposes government control.

like i am supposed to believe that a far right person in control would not strive for the same thing?...especially if that person was a religious zealot?....

 

[The Original Tree]

like i am supposed to believe that a far right person in control would not strive for the same thing?...especially if that person was a religious zealot?....

Like The Green Meanies in charge of our government now who want to abolish gasoline powered vehicles and exterminate anyone who disagrees with them are not a whacko religious death cult?

Most religious people on The Right believe in Freedom while The Religious Zealots on The Left only believe in Intolerance and Compliance.

 

[Indeependent]

Partisan, how does what Harry posted differ to what I posted?

Do you perform your comedy in public?

 

[bripat9643]

like i am supposed to believe that a far right person in control would not strive for the same thing?...especially if that person was a religious zealot?....

If they strive for government control, they are not "far right."

 

[scruffy]

What more evidence do you need asswipe?!?? These are all historical facts.

BULLSHIT.

There's not one actual fact in the entirety of what you wrote

The links are all in the Wiki article, please prove something in the OP, or article, wrong.

Fuck you. I ain't spinning my wheels proving leftards wrong. They're ALWAYS wrong. Buncha boneheads.

 

[MarcATL]

the definition i read from them did not mention right or left...you cant see that from the left marc...BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING ONE OF THEM.....i have told you this more than once....

I've always said I'm on the left Harry. Why are you getting all hysterical on me?

 

[MarcATL]

BULLSHIT.

There's not one actual fact in the entirety of what you wrote



Fuck you. I ain't spinning my wheels proving leftards wrong. They're ALWAYS wrong. Buncha boneheads.

Yet another, hysterical, far rightwing partisan USMBer.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

 

[MarcATL]

As I suspected, Harry Dresden is one MFing dishonest partisan liar.

From Britannica directly....

• Fatherland Front (Vaterländische Front) in Austria, led by Engelbert Dollfuss and supported by the Heimwehr (Home Defense Force), a major right-wing paramilitary organization; the National Union (União Nacional) in Portugal, led by António de Oliveira Salazar (which became fascist after 1936);
• Fascists promised to deal more “firmly” with Marxists than had earlier, more democratic rightist parties. Mussolini first made his reputation as a fascist by unleashing armed squads of Blackshirts on striking workers and peasants in 1920–21.
• Fascist movements criticized parliamentary democracy for allowing the Marxist threat to exist in the first place. According to Hitler, democracy undermined the natural selection of ruling elites and was “nothing other than the systematic cultivation of human failure.” Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, maintained that the people never rule themselves and claimed that every history-making epoch had been created by aristocrats.

Again, a key characteristic of fascism is opposition to the left and/or liberalism, as evidenced in Harry's own URL, which so-called "moderator" Meister co-signed...

• Fascists made no secret of their hatred of Marxists of all stripes, from totalitarian communists to democratic socialists. Fascists promised to deal more “firmly” with Marxists than had earlier, more democratic rightist parties.
• Fascist movements criticized parliamentary democracy for allowing the Marxist threat to exist in the first place.
• Although circumstances sometimes made accommodation to political liberalism necessary, fascists condemned this doctrine for placing the rights of the individual above the needs of the Volk, encouraging “divisiveness” (i.e., political pluralism), tolerating “decadent” values, and limiting the power of the state. Fascists accused liberal “fellow travelers” of wittingly or unwittingly abetting communism.

Source: fascism | Definition, Meaning, Characteristics, Examples, & History (Note: Harry never posted a URL)

Bottom line, of course, fascism is a right-wing problem.

So Harry the liar swoops in like some retarded-ass Captain-Save-A-Hoe, w/more lies and garbage, proving what I always say...

If Republicans didn't LIE, they'd have NOTHING to say!

 

[EvMetro]

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]

As it relates to business, here's how it intersects....

1. Major Italian groups politically on the right, especially rich landowners and big business, feared an uprising by groups on the left, such as sharecroppers and labour unions.[67] They welcomed Fascism and supported its violent suppression of opponents on the left.[68] The accommodation of the political right into the Italian Fascist movement in the early 1920s created internal factions within the movement.
2. The ANI held ties and influence among conservatives, Catholics, and the business community.[108] Italian national syndicalists held a common set of principles: the rejection of bourgeois values, democracy, liberalism, Marxism, internationalism, and pacifism, and the promotion of heroism, vitalism, and violence.[109] The ANI claimed that liberal democracy was no longer compatible with the modern world, and advocated a strong state and imperialism. They believed that humans are naturally predatory, and that nations are in a constant struggle in which only the strongest would survive.[110]
3. In 1920, militant strike activity by industrial workers reached its peak in Italy and 1919 and 1920 were known as the "Red Year" (Biennio Rosso).[136] Mussolini and the Fascists took advantage of the situation by allying with industrial businesses and attacking workers and peasants in the name of preserving order and internal peace in Italy.[137]
4. Historian Stanley G. Payne says: "[Fascism in Italy was a] primarily political dictatorship. ... The Fascist Party itself had become almost completely bureaucratized and subservient to, not dominant over, the state itself. Big business, industry, and finance retained extensive autonomy, particularly in the early years. The armed forces also enjoyed considerable autonomy. ... The Fascist militia was placed under military control. ... The judicial system was left largely intact and relatively autonomous as well. The police continued to be directed by state officials and were not taken over by party leaders ... nor was a major new police elite created.
5. Due to the worldwide depression, Mussolini's government was able to take over most of Italy's largest failing banks, who held controlling interest in many Italian businesses.
6. Source: Fascism - Wikipedia

It isn't what some have been pretending it to be of late.

Let's go deeper. There's a political party in America who's members are characterized by the belief in at least 2 or more of the following...

• Ultranationalist
• Militarism
• Forcible suppression of opposition
• Belief in a natural social hierarchy
• Subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race
• Strong regimentation of society and the economy

Anyone care to guess which American political party that is?!??

What connection do you make between fascism and censorship/ forced suppression of speech?

 

[bripat9643]

Again, a key characteristic of fascism is opposition to the left and/or liberalism, as evidenced in Harry's own URL, which so-called "moderator" Meister co-signed...

In Europe, liberals are people who support the free market. Leftwing groups all fight against each other. A group attacking a leftwing group proves nothing about its political orientation.

• Fascists made no secret of their hatred of Marxists of all stripes, from totalitarian communists to democratic socialists. Fascists promised to deal more “firmly” with Marxists than had earlier, more democratic rightist parties.
• Fascist movements criticized parliamentary democracy for allowing the Marxist threat to exist in the first place.

Marxist groups also criticize parliamentary democracy. numskull.

• Although circumstances sometimes made accommodation to political liberalism necessary, fascists condemned this doctrine for placing the rights of the individual above the needs of the Volk, encouraging “divisiveness” (i.e., political pluralism), tolerating “decadent” values, and limiting the power of the state. Fascists accused liberal “fellow travelers” of wittingly or unwittingly abetting communism.

Opposition to the rights of the individual Is a characteristic of the left, not the right.

Source: fascism | Definition, Meaning, Characteristics, Examples, & History (Note: Harry never posted a URL)

So Harry the liar swoops in like some retarded-ass Captain-Save-A-Hoe, w/more lies and garbage, proving what I always say...

If Republicans didn't LIE, they'd have NOTHING to say!

You failed to prove your claim, numskull.