What if we aren't taking this as seriously as we should?

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

Would you prefer they read it and then dismiss it? This is conspiracy theory nonsense, not that I’m surprised you’re taking it seriously...
I think so - I'd like to see the look on your face when the shit falls apart. This will be in the next century school books. They'll be saying, "it was so obvious- right there in front lf their noses - but they were so fucking stupid...."*teacher takes deep breaths and the children sob quietly.

:blowpop:

Uh.... no.
No what?
 
If wingers complain about something potentially dangerous not being taken seriously enough, perhaps they might consider the possibility that they scream so loud and so often about pretty much EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that most just don't take them seriously any more.

The little boy cried wolf once too often. Does anyone, on either end, know that story?
.
Yes.....




Or it could be

That the entire goverment stinks so bad it's difficult to tell one of the other.
 
Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.
The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.
I'll be shocked, shocked I tell ya, if there isn't a showing of direct information sharing from Russia to Trump's campaign. And I won't be shocked if there's witness accounts and even documents tying Trump personally to it. And there cannot be any actual doubt that Russia actively helped Trump, and there's some % of chance that without it, Hillary would be potus.

However, Trump's dislike of Nato and free trade is nothing new. He shares more in common in terms of democratic ideals with Putin than with the founding fathers. He's had 50 years in the public eye to demonstrate that, and he has.

America will survive Trump. Whether he permanently injures or relations with other democracies, or whether the Russia Empire will swallow more parts of eastern Europe .... dunno.

He's probably right on trade with Jina, although his and Ivanka's commercial dealings with Jina are conveniently undisturbed by his trade policy.

And Jina is playing Kim, but Kim's self interest precludes a unilateral attack on anyone.
Survivig isn't necessarily enough for those who suffer the consequences.
 
For all other morons....like Toddie


The meeting at Trump Towers raises serious issues of liability under laws restricting foreign participation and influence in American elections,

Federal law prohibits a foreign national from giving anything of value to a campaign engaged in a U.S. election. It’s also a crime to solicit a foreign national to do so, or even to "knowingly provide substantial assistance" in receiving something of value.

Foreign nationals | FEC

.

It's a good thing no one got anything of value.
attempted rape or rape....both are crimes

attempted robbery or robbery....are both crimes

attempted kidnapping and kidnapping .... are both crimes

granted, the latter, in each of the above is worse, but BOTH are crimes.

Fascinating!

What does any of that have to do with a Russian lawyer conning Trump Jr. into a 15 minute meeting?
if you think it was simply a con, or one time con....then sure....

here's a clue...

It wasn't.
And you would know that HOW, comrade?

Please post the evidence and cite the exact laws broken by this meeting having taken place and based on what happened in the meeting.

Snowflakes love to squeal, 'Trump did this' and 'Trump did that' but always leave out the fact that no law was broken....
Actually they frequently talk about a law that was broken - but after that you always disappear and are never seen again in that thread.
 
Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.
The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.
I'll be shocked, shocked I tell ya, if there isn't a showing of direct information sharing from Russia to Trump's campaign. And I won't be shocked if there's witness accounts and even documents tying Trump personally to it. And there cannot be any actual doubt that Russia actively helped Trump, and there's some % of chance that without it, Hillary would be potus.

However, Trump's dislike of Nato and free trade is nothing new. He shares more in common in terms of democratic ideals with Putin than with the founding fathers. He's had 50 years in the public eye to demonstrate that, and he has.

America will survive Trump. Whether he permanently injures or relations with other democracies, or whether the Russia Empire will swallow more parts of eastern Europe .... dunno.

He's probably right on trade with Jina, although his and Ivanka's commercial dealings with Jina are conveniently undisturbed by his trade policy.

And Jina is playing Kim, but Kim's self interest precludes a unilateral attack on anyone.
Survivig isn't necessarily enough for those who suffer the consequences.
Hopefully America will reject reelecting anyone who willingly received help from a foreign power, especially one that is an existential threat to our survival and with whom compromise and cooperative govt is not possible.
 
Wow, it's amazing how the RWNJs deflected this thread from it's OP!

Here's the deal...

D. Trump is very likely a Russian intelligence asset.
The only way Donald Trump would be a Russian agent is if he didn't know he was an agent or it was to his advantage to be one.

Trump is certainly not a communist. Hell, he's hardly even a republican. At one time he considered running as democrat. Trump does what is best for Trump. He doesn't give a flying fuck about Making America Great. It's a slogan that got him elected.

What Trump really cares about is the name Trump. He got that from his dad. Any attack on Trump has to be defend. Any attack on the US has to be defended because it's an attack on Trump. Trump is a not a racist because he's white. He's a racist because Trump's race must be superior. To say he's is a narcissist is an understatement.


Per the OP article, it would be to his advantage to be a Russian agent if he was financially dependent on Russia.

BTW, Russia is no longer communist, so citing that Trump is not a communist is moot.
 
What if hiLIARy enabled Putin to takeover 20% of the U.S. Uranium supply?

Oops, that already happened.
No, that's fake news.


Only to you progs who are drowning in DeNial.
Even a drowning person is doing much nore than Dump.


Only in upside-down, inside-out panties in a twist ProgLand.
Is that Rump's office?


Oh Jeebus. Another BORING noob. We really need better rookies.
 
Wow, it's amazing how the RWNJs deflected this thread from it's OP!

Here's the deal...

D. Trump is very likely a Russian intelligence asset.

You very likely ate lead paint chips as a child.

He still does.

Non-GMO, fair trade, organic lead paint chips.

Ha, ha, ha..what are you 5 years old?

If you have nothing to say regarding the article linked in the OP, then you have no business on this thread.
 
If wingers complain about something potentially dangerous not being taken seriously enough, perhaps they might consider the possibility that they scream so loud and so often about pretty much EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that most just don't take them seriously any more.

The little boy cried wolf once too often. Does anyone, on either end, know that story?
.
Yes.....




Or it could be

That the entire goverment stinks so bad it's difficult to tell one of the other.
The Founding Fodder Gave Us Oats, Not Votes

The Sacred Cow Constitution enables that oligarchy. Yet anti-GUBMINT blowhards keep preaching the Constitution as if it were divinely inspired.

Those who hate democracy and push this "republic" nonsense get a childish sense of power from bossing everybody around. Free men make their own laws, but the political bullies want us all to be meek and obedient to their authoritarian document.
 

Forum List

Back
Top