*What Is Death To An Ahteist*?

[Youwerecreated]

Sorry bout that,

Wrong again.

Huancayo- is the capital of the Junín Region, in the central highlands of Peru. It is located in Junín Province, of which it is also capital. Situated near the Mantaro Valley at an altitude of 3,271(almost 11,000 feet) meters, it has a population of 323,054. Huancayo is the cultural and commercial center of the whole central Peruvian Andes area. Founded 500 BC. Huancayo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cusco- (play /ˈkuːskoʊ/; often spelled Cuzco; Quechua: Qusqu [ˈqo̝s.qo]) is a city in southeastern Peru, near the Urubamba Valley of the Andes mountain range. It is the capital of the Cusco Region as well as the Cusco Province. In 2007, the city had a population of 358,935 which was triple the figure of 20 years ago. Located on the eastern end of the Knot of Cusco, its altitude is around 3,400 m (11,200 ft). The Killke occupied the region from 900 to 1200, prior to the arrival of the Incas in the 13th century. Cusco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lhasa- (play /ˈlɑːsə/, Tibetan: ལྷ་ས་, [l̥ásə] or [l̥ɜ́ːsə]; simplified Chinese: 拉萨; traditional Chinese: 拉薩; pinyin: Lāsà; sometimes spelled Lasa) is the administrative capital of the Tibet Autonomous Region in the People's Republic of China and the second most populous city on the Tibetan Plateau, after Xining. At an altitude of 3,490 metres (11,450 ft), Lhasa is one of the highest cities in the world. It contains many culturally significant Tibetan Buddhist sites such as the Potala Palace, Jokhang and Norbulingka palaces. Founded 637 AD. Lhasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You sure you arent CEO to a quickie mart?

1.lol!!!!
2. Those examples are realitively new as far as the flood is concerned.
3. I would think the flood occurred somewhere around 5700 years ago.
4. And at that time there were few humans in the Americas.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

5. No one at that era had the capability to live that high up on a mountain.

What capability did people 2000 years ago have that people 5000 years ago did not have? Ill remind you the aqualung came out in 1943, just if you didnt know.

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

 

[JScott]

Here this short video covers what you were wanting proved.

21-Global Flood Erodes Old Earth Beliefs

Dya think that guy is dishonest or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

If he does not know what he is talking please point out where he was wrong ?

Hes wrong about fossilization. How can a person pass up all the other forms of fossilization? Sure a hat can turn to stone if its left in an environment with the right minerals. This is rudimentary science. If you ignore the other forms youre not objective. I can tell you that if NAU put together a class to rebut him it was out of folly. By the way, you have a link to this class?

Heres an example of stratum. This was not shaken up in a jar. Its also millions of years old.

And about fossil dating, he really went out on a limb with that one. He stated "all the layers of fossils down to the Cambrian still had carbon 14 in them". Of course they do. The levels are lower in each older layer, all the way down to the first layer. He also fails to acknowledge that each layer has a different collection of fossil remains.

He brought up a fish found in China that dated back to the Cambrian. It caused controversy between China and "evolutionists" when it was discovered. That may be true, I dont know. I couldnt find the articles he says exists. It did raise a lot more questions about how evolution works. Why is he talking about a period he doesnt believe existed?

About Yellow Stone Park. I would have to lean towards the scientists on this one. He disputes the theory of how the forest is destroyed by a cataclysmic event over and over thats why theres tree stumps in each strata layer. The reason why is pretty obvious, its Yellow Stone-

The Yellowstone Caldera is the largest volcanic system in North America. It has been termed a "supervolcano" because the caldera was formed by exceptionally large explosive eruptions. The current caldera was created by a cataclysmic eruption that occurred 640,000 years ago, which released 240 cubic miles (1,000 km³) of ash, rock and pyroclastic materials. This eruption was 1,000 times larger than the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens.[54] It produced a crater nearly a two thirds of a mile (1 km) deep and 52 by 28 miles (84 by 45 km) in area and deposited the Lava Creek Tuff, a welded tuff geologic formation. The most violent known eruption, which occurred 2.1 million years ago, ejected 588 cubic miles (2,450 km³) of volcanic material and created the rock formation known as the Huckleberry Ridge Tuff and created the Island Park Caldera.[55] A smaller eruption ejected 67 cubic miles (280 km³) of material 1.2 million years ago, forming the Henry's Fork Caldera and depositing the Mesa Falls Tuff.[54]
Yellowstone National Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im tired of doing your research. You know, if you would just be objective you could find this stuff out for yourself.

Its funny how Cheesewallow made some statement of pure fantasy and you ate it up just like it was the truth. That should be a hint to you.

 

[JScott]

Saudi Arabia-

New Fossil Discovery from Saudi Arabia provides Evidence of Monkey/Ape Divergence

Saudi Arabia 30 million years ago, looked very different than it does today. Much of this desert kingdom was a lush and verdant paradise for the rapidly diversifying mammalian species. Bordering the last remnants of the once mighty Tethys ocean there were extensive mangrove swamps and thriving in this half-way house environment between the land and sea were a number of genera of monkeys and other arboreal creatures. The discovery of a partial cranium (part of the skull) dating from approximately 28-29 million years ago, may have shed light on the divergence of the apes from Old World monkeys.

Or they could have cross bred which has been one of my arguments for a long time that your side ignores. The genetics from parents and their parents parents determine the offspring.

Scientists never denied cross breeding.

It's official: Most of us are part Neanderthal. The first draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome has provided the strongest evidence yet that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that all non-Africans today have Neanderthal gene fragments in their genetic codes.
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News

 

[JScott]

Sorry bout that,













1.lol!!!!
2. Those examples are realitively new as far as the flood is concerned.
3. I would think the flood occurred somewhere around 5700 years ago.
4. And at that time there were few humans in the Americas.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

5. No one at that era had the capability to live that high up on a mountain.

What capability did people 2000 years ago have that people 5000 years ago did not have? Ill remind you the aqualung came out in 1943, just if you didnt know.

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

Why did all those people live there then? Still to this day too.

 

[JScott]

Sorry bout that,













1.lol!!!!
2. Those examples are realitively new as far as the flood is concerned.
3. I would think the flood occurred somewhere around 5700 years ago.
4. And at that time there were few humans in the Americas.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

5. No one at that era had the capability to live that high up on a mountain.

What capability did people 2000 years ago have that people 5000 years ago did not have? Ill remind you the aqualung came out in 1943, just if you didnt know.

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

Huancayo- The area was originally inhabited by the Huancas. At around 500 BC, they were incorporated into the Wari Empire. Despite efforts to defend its independence, the Huancas were eventually subdued by the Inca leader Pachacutec in 1460 and the region was incorporated into the Inca empire. It subsequently became a notable stopping point along the Inca Camino Real.

Cusco- The Killke occupied the region from 900 to 1200, prior to the arrival of the Incas in the 13th century. Carbon-14 dating of Sacsayhuaman, the walled complex outside Cusco, has demonstrated that the Killke culture constructed the fortress about 1100. The Inca later expanded and occupied the complex in the 13th century and after. On 13 March 2008, archaeologists discovered the ruins of an ancient temple, roadway and acqueduct system at Sacsayhuaman.[9] This find plus the results of excavations in 2007, when another temple was found at the edge of the fortress, indicates religious as well as military use of the facility.[10]

Lhasa- By the mid 7th century, Songtsän Gampo became the leader of the Tibetan Empire that had risen to power in the Brahmaputra River (locally known as the Yarlung Zangbo River) Valley. After conquering the kingdom of Zhangzhung in the west, he moved the capital from the Chingwa Taktse castle in Chongye County (pinyin: Qonggai), southwest of Yarlung, to Rasa (modern Lhasa) where in 637 he founded the first buildings of the Potala Palace on Mount Marpori. In 641 he founded the Rasa Trulnang or Jokhang.[2] Lhasa soon became not only the religious, but the political centre.[3] Lhasa remained the capital throughout the development of the Tibetan Empire until the reign of Langdarma in the 9th century, when the sacred sites were destroyed and desecrated and the empire fragmented.[4]

Hey, turns out they did choose to live in those places.

You ever hear of the Hittites? Yeah, ancient people from before the bible was written. They lived in a huge city in a very crazy place. Did they choose to live there? Yeah, they did.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcoD2mHocvc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL]YouTube - ‪The Lords of Hattusa 1/6‬‏[/ame]

 

[Youwerecreated]

Dya think that guy is dishonest or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

If he does not know what he is talking please point out where he was wrong ?

Hes wrong about fossilization. How can a person pass up all the other forms of fossilization? Sure a hat can turn to stone if its left in an environment with the right minerals. This is rudimentary science. If you ignore the other forms youre not objective. I can tell you that if NAU put together a class to rebut him it was out of folly. By the way, you have a link to this class?

Heres an example of stratum. This was not shaken up in a jar. Its also millions of years old.

And about fossil dating, he really went out on a limb with that one. He stated "all the layers of fossils down to the Cambrian still had carbon 14 in them". Of course they do. The levels are lower in each older layer, all the way down to the first layer. He also fails to acknowledge that each layer has a different collection of fossil remains.

He brought up a fish found in China that dated back to the Cambrian. It caused controversy between China and "evolutionists" when it was discovered. That may be true, I dont know. I couldnt find the articles he says exists. It did raise a lot more questions about how evolution works. Why is he talking about a period he doesnt believe existed?

About Yellow Stone Park. I would have to lean towards the scientists on this one. He disputes the theory of how the forest is destroyed by a cataclysmic event over and over thats why theres tree stumps in each strata layer. The reason why is pretty obvious, its Yellow Stone-

The Yellowstone Caldera is the largest volcanic system in North America. It has been termed a "supervolcano" because the caldera was formed by exceptionally large explosive eruptions. The current caldera was created by a cataclysmic eruption that occurred 640,000 years ago, which released 240 cubic miles (1,000 km³) of ash, rock and pyroclastic materials. This eruption was 1,000 times larger than the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens.[54] It produced a crater nearly a two thirds of a mile (1 km) deep and 52 by 28 miles (84 by 45 km) in area and deposited the Lava Creek Tuff, a welded tuff geologic formation. The most violent known eruption, which occurred 2.1 million years ago, ejected 588 cubic miles (2,450 km³) of volcanic material and created the rock formation known as the Huckleberry Ridge Tuff and created the Island Park Caldera.[55] A smaller eruption ejected 67 cubic miles (280 km³) of material 1.2 million years ago, forming the Henry's Fork Caldera and depositing the Mesa Falls Tuff.[54]
Yellowstone National Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im tired of doing your research. You know, if you would just be objective you could find this stuff out for yourself.

Its funny how Cheesewallow made some statement of pure fantasy and you ate it up just like it was the truth. That should be a hint to you.

Polystrate trees suspended upside down while strata built up around it ?

The hat was in a cave for ten years and turned to complete stone his point was that it does not take thousands and or millions of years to become fossilized.

Russ miller gives regular tours in the grand canyon i believe you're gonna have to do better then this to refute his claims.

Don't recall the class but you can email him and ask him yourself,it's right there on his website.

I guess you didn't really pay attention to this video.

http://www.creationministries.org/showpage.aspx?page=53

 

[Youwerecreated]

Saudi Arabia-

New Fossil Discovery from Saudi Arabia provides Evidence of Monkey/Ape Divergence

Saudi Arabia 30 million years ago, looked very different than it does today. Much of this desert kingdom was a lush and verdant paradise for the rapidly diversifying mammalian species. Bordering the last remnants of the once mighty Tethys ocean there were extensive mangrove swamps and thriving in this half-way house environment between the land and sea were a number of genera of monkeys and other arboreal creatures. The discovery of a partial cranium (part of the skull) dating from approximately 28-29 million years ago, may have shed light on the divergence of the apes from Old World monkeys.

Or they could have cross bred which has been one of my arguments for a long time that your side ignores. The genetics from parents and their parents parents determine the offspring.

Scientists never denied cross breeding.

It's official: Most of us are part Neanderthal. The first draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome has provided the strongest evidence yet that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that all non-Africans today have Neanderthal gene fragments in their genetic codes.
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News

And a neanderthal is human.

 

[Youwerecreated]

5. No one at that era had the capability to live that high up on a mountain.

What capability did people 2000 years ago have that people 5000 years ago did not have? Ill remind you the aqualung came out in 1943, just if you didnt know.

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

Why did all those people live there then? Still to this day too.

Take a closer look.

Noah’s Ark Discovered And Photos Taken Inside : Altitude 13,000′ On Mount Ararat, Turkey! « Political Vel Craft

 

[Youwerecreated]

5. No one at that era had the capability to live that high up on a mountain.

What capability did people 2000 years ago have that people 5000 years ago did not have? Ill remind you the aqualung came out in 1943, just if you didnt know.

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

Huancayo- The area was originally inhabited by the Huancas. At around 500 BC, they were incorporated into the Wari Empire. Despite efforts to defend its independence, the Huancas were eventually subdued by the Inca leader Pachacutec in 1460 and the region was incorporated into the Inca empire. It subsequently became a notable stopping point along the Inca Camino Real.

Cusco- The Killke occupied the region from 900 to 1200, prior to the arrival of the Incas in the 13th century. Carbon-14 dating of Sacsayhuaman, the walled complex outside Cusco, has demonstrated that the Killke culture constructed the fortress about 1100. The Inca later expanded and occupied the complex in the 13th century and after. On 13 March 2008, archaeologists discovered the ruins of an ancient temple, roadway and acqueduct system at Sacsayhuaman.[9] This find plus the results of excavations in 2007, when another temple was found at the edge of the fortress, indicates religious as well as military use of the facility.[10]

Lhasa- By the mid 7th century, Songtsän Gampo became the leader of the Tibetan Empire that had risen to power in the Brahmaputra River (locally known as the Yarlung Zangbo River) Valley. After conquering the kingdom of Zhangzhung in the west, he moved the capital from the Chingwa Taktse castle in Chongye County (pinyin: Qonggai), southwest of Yarlung, to Rasa (modern Lhasa) where in 637 he founded the first buildings of the Potala Palace on Mount Marpori. In 641 he founded the Rasa Trulnang or Jokhang.[2] Lhasa soon became not only the religious, but the political centre.[3] Lhasa remained the capital throughout the development of the Tibetan Empire until the reign of Langdarma in the 9th century, when the sacred sites were destroyed and desecrated and the empire fragmented.[4]

Hey, turns out they did choose to live in those places.

You ever hear of the Hittites? Yeah, ancient people from before the bible was written. They lived in a huge city in a very crazy place. Did they choose to live there? Yeah, they did.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcoD2mHocvc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL]YouTube - ‪The Lords of Hattusa 1/6‬‏[/ame]

Not at 13,000 feet.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Scientists never denied cross breeding.

It's official: Most of us are part Neanderthal. The first draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome has provided the strongest evidence yet that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that all non-Africans today have Neanderthal gene fragments in their genetic codes.
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News

And a neanderthal is human.

What do you think cross bred then?

Don't you get it ? humans have human genetics apes have ape genetics you are wrong because a neanderthal is 100 % human.

They're not half man and half ape.

 

[idb]

Here this short video covers what you were wanting proved.

21-Global Flood Erodes Old Earth Beliefs

Dya think that guy is dishonest or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

Evidently he must know what he is talking about if NAU was willing to create a class to rebuttal him. And have you ever visited these peaks that he gives tours on and shows the evidence ?

It really is too easy, but just one as an example...he stated that The Cambrian period only had single-celled organisms - is he simply lying, or is he really that ignorant?

And as for the ridiculous strawmen that he puts up, such as 'scientists teach that strata are only laid down over millions of years' or that there is no explanation for bones to be mixed up together except through a single global flooding event...well they are just embarrassing.

 

[JScott]

Or they could have cross bred which has been one of my arguments for a long time that your side ignores. The genetics from parents and their parents parents determine the offspring.

Scientists never denied cross breeding.

It's official: Most of us are part Neanderthal. The first draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome has provided the strongest evidence yet that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that all non-Africans today have Neanderthal gene fragments in their genetic codes.
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News

And a neanderthal is human.

What do you think cross bred then?

 

[JScott]

If he does not know what he is talking please point out where he was wrong ?

Hes wrong about fossilization. How can a person pass up all the other forms of fossilization? Sure a hat can turn to stone if its left in an environment with the right minerals. This is rudimentary science. If you ignore the other forms youre not objective. I can tell you that if NAU put together a class to rebut him it was out of folly. By the way, you have a link to this class?

Heres an example of stratum. This was not shaken up in a jar. Its also millions of years old.

And about fossil dating, he really went out on a limb with that one. He stated "all the layers of fossils down to the Cambrian still had carbon 14 in them". Of course they do. The levels are lower in each older layer, all the way down to the first layer. He also fails to acknowledge that each layer has a different collection of fossil remains.

He brought up a fish found in China that dated back to the Cambrian. It caused controversy between China and "evolutionists" when it was discovered. That may be true, I dont know. I couldnt find the articles he says exists. It did raise a lot more questions about how evolution works. Why is he talking about a period he doesnt believe existed?

About Yellow Stone Park. I would have to lean towards the scientists on this one. He disputes the theory of how the forest is destroyed by a cataclysmic event over and over thats why theres tree stumps in each strata layer. The reason why is pretty obvious, its Yellow Stone-

The Yellowstone Caldera is the largest volcanic system in North America. It has been termed a "supervolcano" because the caldera was formed by exceptionally large explosive eruptions. The current caldera was created by a cataclysmic eruption that occurred 640,000 years ago, which released 240 cubic miles (1,000 km³) of ash, rock and pyroclastic materials. This eruption was 1,000 times larger than the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens.[54] It produced a crater nearly a two thirds of a mile (1 km) deep and 52 by 28 miles (84 by 45 km) in area and deposited the Lava Creek Tuff, a welded tuff geologic formation. The most violent known eruption, which occurred 2.1 million years ago, ejected 588 cubic miles (2,450 km³) of volcanic material and created the rock formation known as the Huckleberry Ridge Tuff and created the Island Park Caldera.[55] A smaller eruption ejected 67 cubic miles (280 km³) of material 1.2 million years ago, forming the Henry's Fork Caldera and depositing the Mesa Falls Tuff.[54]
Yellowstone National Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im tired of doing your research. You know, if you would just be objective you could find this stuff out for yourself.

Its funny how Cheesewallow made some statement of pure fantasy and you ate it up just like it was the truth. That should be a hint to you.

Polystrate trees suspended upside down while strata built up around it ?

The hat was in a cave for ten years and turned to complete stone his point was that it does not take thousands and or millions of years to become fossilized.

Russ miller gives regular tours in the grand canyon i believe you're gonna have to do better then this to refute his claims.

Don't recall the class but you can email him and ask him yourself,it's right there on his website.

I guess you didn't really pay attention to this video.

23-Global Flood Strata at Grand Canyon

I dont know about your trees. Im sure they were destroyed by volcanic activity though.

What kind of stone was the hat?

Russ Miller is a tour guide, he is a preacher as well.

The class didnt happen then.

I watched more of the video than I should have.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Dya think that guy is dishonest or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

Evidently he must know what he is talking about if NAU was willing to create a class to rebuttal him. And have you ever visited these peaks that he gives tours on and shows the evidence ?

It really is too easy, but just one as an example...he stated that The Cambrian period only had single-celled organisms - is he simply lying, or is he really that ignorant?

And as for the ridiculous strawmen that he puts up, such as 'scientists teach that strata are only laid down over millions of years' or that there is no explanation for bones to be mixed up together except through a single global flooding event...well they are just embarrassing.

That is what evolutionist claimed until they discovered that was not so.

Notice how science continue to revise their text books ?

Evolutionist have always changed their stance once their first explanations were proven wrong.

 

[JScott]

You really think people would choose to live at that altitude

Why did all those people live there then? Still to this day too.

Take a closer look.

Noah’s Ark Discovered And Photos Taken Inside : Altitude 13,000′ On Mount Ararat, Turkey! « Political Vel Craft

List of highest towns by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JScott]

And a neanderthal is human.

What do you think cross bred then?

Don't you get it ? humans have human genetics apes have ape genetics you are wrong because a neanderthal is 100 % human.

They're not half man and half ape.

What is it that cross bred with what then? Its your statement.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Scientists never denied cross breeding.

It's official: Most of us are part Neanderthal. The first draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome has provided the strongest evidence yet that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that all non-Africans today have Neanderthal gene fragments in their genetic codes.
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News

And a neanderthal is human.

What do you think cross bred then?

You tell me your side is the one making up the theory.

 

[JScott]

Evidently he must know what he is talking about if NAU was willing to create a class to rebuttal him. And have you ever visited these peaks that he gives tours on and shows the evidence ?

It really is too easy, but just one as an example...he stated that The Cambrian period only had single-celled organisms - is he simply lying, or is he really that ignorant?

And as for the ridiculous strawmen that he puts up, such as 'scientists teach that strata are only laid down over millions of years' or that there is no explanation for bones to be mixed up together except through a single global flooding event...well they are just embarrassing.

That is what evolutionist claimed until they discovered that was not so.

Notice how science continue to revise their text books ?

Evolutionist have always changed their stance once their first explanations were proven wrong.

Science is always progressing with each new discovery. If they didnt we would still be walking every place.

We would still be waiting for lightning to light our fires.

 

[JScott]

And a neanderthal is human.

What do you think cross bred then?

You tell me your side is the one making up the theory.

You said you believed something cross bred with something else.

 

[Youwerecreated]

What do you think cross bred then?

Don't you get it ? humans have human genetics apes have ape genetics you are wrong because a neanderthal is 100 % human.

They're not half man and half ape.

What is it that cross bred with what then? Its your statement.

Let's make this simple,are you saying that a neanderthal cross bred with an ape ?