What is our obligation to the poor?

[danielpalos]

You are welcome to disagree. But, i can disagree with you, in that same manner.

Why not provide an argument for your disagreement?

An argument is not needed when history proves my point.

dear, only the true socialism of outright, communism, will do during real times of war.

you only appeal to ignorance, not history.

No. that is not socialism. ThT is sacrifice for survival. Two different motivations.

Yes, it is socialism. You simply don't understand the concepts.

Of course I understand the concepts that's why I reject socialism. Socialism is inherreintly evil.

it is because socialism requires social morals for free; we allege to subscribe to Capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a mixed market economy. No one is claiming we don't have our First World standard of living, due to our social safety nets.

We aren't discussing that. We are discussing your concept of a social contract for the general welfare of the people and what that means. Should the government guarantee employment and wages to provide for the general welfare of all the people?

Only minimum wages since we subscribe to capitalism. there is no upper limit to any market in theory.

Then obviously you must believe our government has failed to uphold their social contract with all of the people, right? Therefore, you must believe they should step in and immediately remedy the situation, right?

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

 

[danielpalos]

Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?

I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:

"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."

I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.

What do you think?

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

 

[ding]

Sacrifice is a form of socialism, not capitalism.

Sacrifice is voluntary.

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

 

[ding]

Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?

I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:

"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."

I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.

What do you think?

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

That is certainly how communists and socialists would view it. But that does not make it so. That only makes it a lie.

 

[ding]

We aren't discussing that. We are discussing your concept of a social contract for the general welfare of the people and what that means. Should the government guarantee employment and wages to provide for the general welfare of all the people?

Only minimum wages since we subscribe to capitalism. there is no upper limit to any market in theory.

Then obviously you must believe our government has failed to uphold their social contract with all of the people, right? Therefore, you must believe they should step in and immediately remedy the situation, right?

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

I don't believe you do. Like your religion, you defy examination. Why? Because your dogma is based on deceit.

 

[The Irish Ram]

If they need your shirt, give them your jacket too...

 

[danielpalos]

Sacrifice is a form of socialism, not capitalism.

Sacrifice is voluntary.

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

The term usually implies "doing without something" or "giving something up" (see also self-sacrifice).

taxation is a burden and sacrifice, for the greater good; Because, we are not moral enough for free.

 

[danielpalos]

Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?

I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:

"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."

I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.

What do you think?

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

That is certainly how communists and socialists would view it. But that does not make it so. That only makes it a lie.

what lie? it is a Christian precept.

 

[danielpalos]

Only minimum wages since we subscribe to capitalism. there is no upper limit to any market in theory.

Then obviously you must believe our government has failed to uphold their social contract with all of the people, right? Therefore, you must believe they should step in and immediately remedy the situation, right?

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

I don't believe you do. Like your religion, you defy examination. Why? Because your dogma is based on deceit.

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

 

[ding]

Sacrifice is a form of socialism, not capitalism.

Sacrifice is voluntary.

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

The term usually implies "doing without something" or "giving something up" (see also self-sacrifice).

taxation is a burden and sacrifice, for the greater good; Because, we are not moral enough for free.

No, it is an obligation and a requirement. If men were angels there would be no need for government or laws but since we are not there will always be the subversive who will seek to destroy the spirit of man and whisper that it is for his own good.

 

[ding]

Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?

I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:

"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."

I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.

What do you think?

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

That is certainly how communists and socialists would view it. But that does not make it so. That only makes it a lie.

what lie? it is a Christian precept.

No. Forced charity is a socialist precept. One cannot be made virtuous if he is made to be virtuous.

 

[ding]

Then obviously you must believe our government has failed to uphold their social contract with all of the people, right? Therefore, you must believe they should step in and immediately remedy the situation, right?

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

I don't believe you do. Like your religion, you defy examination. Why? Because your dogma is based on deceit.

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

You have said this before. It made as little sense then as it does now. So, no, I have no questions. Wait, I do have one... are you for a socialist revolution?

 

[danielpalos]

Sacrifice is a form of socialism, not capitalism.

Sacrifice is voluntary.

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

The term usually implies "doing without something" or "giving something up" (see also self-sacrifice).

taxation is a burden and sacrifice, for the greater good; Because, we are not moral enough for free.

No, it is an obligation and a requirement. If men were angels there would be no need for government or laws but since we are not there will always be the subversive who will seek to destroy the spirit of man and whisper that it is for his own good.

yes, that is our burden and sacrifice for not being moral enough for free, to Only need Ten Commandments.

 

[danielpalos]

Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?

I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:

"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."

I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.

What do you think?

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

That is certainly how communists and socialists would view it. But that does not make it so. That only makes it a lie.

what lie? it is a Christian precept.

No. Forced charity is a socialist precept. One cannot be made virtuous if he is made to be virtuous.

how does that work for the common defense; they give medals for that.

 

[danielpalos]

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

I don't believe you do. Like your religion, you defy examination. Why? Because your dogma is based on deceit.

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

You have said this before. It made as little sense then as it does now. So, no, I have no questions. Wait, I do have one... are you for a socialist revolution?

I am advocating for ending the command economics of our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror as being pure, socialism on a national basis.

why do you believe you are not a good communist, my good comrade?

 

[ding]

Sacrifice is voluntary.

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

The term usually implies "doing without something" or "giving something up" (see also self-sacrifice).

taxation is a burden and sacrifice, for the greater good; Because, we are not moral enough for free.

No, it is an obligation and a requirement. If men were angels there would be no need for government or laws but since we are not there will always be the subversive who will seek to destroy the spirit of man and whisper that it is for his own good.

yes, that is our burden and sacrifice for not being moral enough for free, to Only need Ten Commandments.

We don't need any commandments. We know right from wrong.

 

[ding]

What does Jesus say?

that it is ok to Tax the rich into Heaven, as a moral of "goodwill toward men".

That is certainly how communists and socialists would view it. But that does not make it so. That only makes it a lie.

what lie? it is a Christian precept.

No. Forced charity is a socialist precept. One cannot be made virtuous if he is made to be virtuous.

how does that work for the common defense; they give medals for that.

Through a conflict and confusion process.

 

[ding]

No. You can't even admit you would like a socialist revolution. Let me know when you can.

No. I have a good argument. I don't need to get, fantastical.

I don't believe you do. Like your religion, you defy examination. Why? Because your dogma is based on deceit.

Our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, are all command economics. Any questions?

You have said this before. It made as little sense then as it does now. So, no, I have no questions. Wait, I do have one... are you for a socialist revolution?

I am advocating for ending the command economics of our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror as being pure, socialism on a national basis.

why do you believe you are not a good communist, my good comrade?

Get in line. Embracing socialism won't do it.

 

[danielpalos]

not always.

It isn't a sacrifice if it is not voluntary. If it is forced then we call that an obligation.

The term usually implies "doing without something" or "giving something up" (see also self-sacrifice).

taxation is a burden and sacrifice, for the greater good; Because, we are not moral enough for free.

No, it is an obligation and a requirement. If men were angels there would be no need for government or laws but since we are not there will always be the subversive who will seek to destroy the spirit of man and whisper that it is for his own good.

yes, that is our burden and sacrifice for not being moral enough for free, to Only need Ten Commandments.

We don't need any commandments. We know right from wrong.

why do we have laws instead of Only, religious commandments?