What Is The Biggest Drawback Of Atheism?

[beautress]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Yet, I've heard...

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J. Robert Oppenheimer Father of Atomic Bomb and celebrity atheist

I don't know. What do you think?

I'm not positive, but my answer would be death while Christians fear God.

Atheists may look at death like this.

What the heck, we're all gonna die due to Adam's sin and Satan.

Still, the atheists believe...

"christians FEAR god"

so the only reason you don't kill, steal, lie and cheat is because you FEAR god?

actually you don't fear god, you fear what god will do to you if you don't tow the line....

which makes me ask......if you fear what god will do to you if you lie, cheat, kill and steal why do you lie, cheat, kill and steal?

perhaps you don't really fear god at all.....

Our nation didn't get where it is today without a belief in the things of God. And nobody knew it better than Ike Eisenhower, who strongly recommended and won the phrase "under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance, right after "One Nation," may God rest his beautiful soul who so loved the black man's contributions in WWII for courage and strength that he saw to it that black children would be integrated, starting in Little Rock, Arkansas, on in 1954, following his election in 1952.

"Civil Rights: Little Rock Integration Crisis On May 17, 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education that segregated schools are "inherently unequal." In September 1957, as a result of that ruling, nine African-American students enrolled at Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas." Civil Rights: Little Rock Integration Crisis | Eisenhower Presidential Library, KS
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I have a clear memory of seeing Ike's huge picture on a newspaper I brought into the house when I found it in the mailbox, and asked my mother who he was, and why was his picture on the front page of the paper. My memory (which could be faulty) recollects a color picture of the President-elect, and mom explained that everybody was proud of Dwight D. Eisenhower because he was responsible for beating the Nazis of Germany, and then the war was over, because all the soldiers (including my dad) came home. I remember meetint Dad when I was 4 years old, when he also came home from the Korean War. I don't know what his skills were, but again at the age of 8, our whole family spent a year in San Antonio on a base, and then we were flown to Alaska, where Dad served his country some more. I saw a moose, and we learned leather crafts all winter. And baby, it was cold outside!

 

[alang1216]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Since atheists don't believe in a hell we don't fear an eternal torment. If I was not an atheist I'd be real worried that I might follow the wrong religion and get myself damned. How can anyone be sure when there are so many religions and so many paths to hell?

That and getting to sleep late on Sundays.

ON THE OTHER THREAD YOU CLAIMED TO BE AN AGNOSTIC now you claim to be an athiest,,,

so which is it

honesty seems to not be one of your strong points

Good question.

When it comes to the creation of the universe, I don't know what caused the big bang. Was it an intelligence or only natural forces? Until there is evidence for one or the other, I'm willing to admit I don't know and am therefore agnostic.

When it comes to religions, I don't think they have any insights and I don't believe there is supernatural being as described in the Bible. Therefore I'm an atheist.

I don't feel there is any contradiction.

 

[beautress]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Yet, I've heard...

View attachment 281452

J. Robert Oppenheimer Father of Atomic Bomb and celebrity atheist

I don't know. What do you think?

I'm not positive, but my answer would be death while Christians fear God.

Atheists may look at death like this.

What the heck, we're all gonna die due to Adam's sin and Satan.

Still, the atheists believe...

"christians FEAR god"

so the only reason you don't kill, steal, lie and cheat is because you FEAR god?

actually you don't fear god, you fear what god will do to you if you don't tow the line....

which makes me ask......if you fear what god will do to you if you lie, cheat, kill and steal why do you lie, cheat, kill and steal?

perhaps you don't really fear god at all.....

I think you misunderstand the fear of God, since you have none, doll, and you may never understand our "fear" to be fearless for the Lord, simply because for whatever reason, you cannot place your trust in God's saving hands. This probably won't do any good, but if you'd like to reference the realm of believers, here are 25 scriptures, that will educate you somewhat on believing, although at first, it may seem all over the map, if you should become curious and seek to know God on an eyeball-to-eyeball closeness, it starts with a desire to understand the ways of God: What Does the Bible Say About Belief In The Lord?
It's a lot of reading, probably it would only change one thing in your mind: that we who believe, it's written on our hearts; some of us have believed for 60 years or more, some of us believed prior to the "age of accountability" which is about 12 years, some of us here may be on our death beds before it makes sense, and btw, it's not too late to start believing then, as we know from a parable of Jesus about the workers who got paid the same amount whether they worked all day or came in at the last hour.

Apparently you do not understand the New Covenant, but that's okay, because reading the New Testament for understanding takes the better part of 5 months, if you read 3 chapters a night. (I'm guessing).

Another thing you may not know about Christians is that we have human emotions, foibles, and failings just like anyone else. There are incidents where we fail, same as nonchristians. The difference is, we know that our beliefs will save us, because whether we wind up in an executioner's chair, an overnighter in the drunk tank, or the subject of gossip started by somebody else's little white lie, our anger could get us into a pissing match with the liar or her best friend. We know that when we fail, it's time to take it to the Lord in prayer, and many of us do just that, because his answers, while we may not understand them, are always right and good, and God respects those who believe in him. He's not like a human friend who could turn on you. God loves us with no other conditions attached. And if his salvation appeals to a nonbeliever, all that is required is a simple prayer, "Dear God, please help me with my unbelief." And if you know he will be on your side forever, your prayer will receive a positive answer, always, whether you are a jack or a king. It's that simple.

Edit: Oh, and by the way, before the 70s, it is estimated that out of 100 who went to the electric chair, 16 of them did not commit the crime they were convicted of by a jury of their peers. This came to the attention of an Illinois Governor, who abolished the death penalty for the duration of his term when this information became known by researchers, who had access to the new proof that DNA tells in the case of a rape-murder. Back in days prior to the civil war, executions were often emotional releases for the masses and may have resulted in higher numbers of people dying for crimes they did not commit, except in the case of being caught red-handed. I read about a case in a detective magazine years ago of a serial murder-rapist who was caught who claimed he had killed over a hundred women, but only 35 of them were known to authorities, and he refused to talk about any more. The peculiar thing about the ones known to authorities after his partial confession is that other men were serving out sentences for the crimes the real killer committed, and I'm certain people have been served death sentences and were long gone by the time someone figured out the person executed was exonerated by other types of proof and confessions that came late in life of the real killer, who waited till just before his execution to fess up to the one he did someone else took a death penalty for.

I used to be a strong supporter of the death penalty. But as many lies as I've seen proffered out in politics, I'm thinking that finding due to dna didn't scratch the surface on killers who claimed to be witnesses and fingered someone they knew was in the area. These people are criminals who blame others when they know it was their dirty deed, and they're deflecting their sentence against an innocent person they could care less before. That's because sociopaths do not care for other people and have no respect for justice.

I no longer absolutely support the death penalty. Too many liars in this world.

 

[james bond]

So, the question seems to be is whether a comforting myth is preferable to reality.

""For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?" Matthew 16:26

The reality is the afterlife, not this life. What's the point of accumulating assets, but you can't take it with you? Even King Solomon couldn't take any of it with him. However, that is not the point of the verse above. It is saying what is important is your life spirit, not this life. The myth is this life, so you have it backwards.

 

[BreezeWood]

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evolution is proof of a metaphysical existence that traverses time, the atheist might be content as a one time contributor however for others freeing their spirit though accomplishment is an attempt worth trying. life in the Everlasting.

for the religious to claim admission can be accomplished for them is the joke atheist can surly count on in reprisal for believing they will simply die as being the same.

 

[james bond]

"christians FEAR god"

so the only reason you don't kill, steal, lie and cheat is because you FEAR god?

actually you don't fear god, you fear what god will do to you if you don't tow the line....

which makes me ask......if you fear what god will do to you if you lie, cheat, kill and steal why do you lie, cheat, kill and steal?

perhaps you don't really fear god at all.....

Not that kind of fear, but respect for God's holiness, kingdom, power, and glory forever. Christians are born with sin and are sinful people, too. We can't help but to commit sin. None of us can throw the first stone. So it's not the fear of what happens to us if we don't tow the line. We know that's not possible. Instead, we try to repent for our sins and mistakes through prayer, asking for forgiveness, and changing our thinking and ways. It is fear of not being with God; it is fear of being atheist.

 

[beautress]

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evolution is proof of a metaphysical existence that traverses time, the atheist might be content as a one time contributor however for others freeing their spirit though accomplishment is an attempt worth trying. life in the Everlasting.

for the religious to claim admission can be accomplished for them is the joke atheist can surly count on in reprisal for believing they will simply die as being the same.

You forget one thing, Breezy dear. Christians do not judge. That's the job of God alone.

 

[diver52]

So, the question seems to be is whether a comforting myth is preferable to reality.

Well, reality isn't all that clear. Pretty much the only argument that there is no god is the lack of evidence that there is. This is a logical fallacy and proves nothing. So they are all ultimately myths. Might as well pick the myth you find most comforting.

You are correct that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so to the extent one would claim it is, that assertion would be a fallacy. But it would not be a myth. A myth demands a something to mythologize, not a nothing.

Logically, atheism isn't even possible. Agnosticism is, but that's different.

A myth is just a story. It does not require any something.

Of course it does. You can't write a story that has no subject in it.

"It was a dark and stormy night. Nobody hastily shivered in the rain as they didn't unlock the non-door to their nonexistent non-domicile where they proceeded to not exist".

Doesn't work.

And yet you just made it work. Congrats!

 

[diver52]

Atheists look at death like this...…

If death is the end, then none of the arguments between believers and atheists matter. However, Blaise Pascal made a wager that if one's soul depended on it in the afterlife, then it's safer to believe. If one knew what causes life to live, then it would show different, but so far we have no God's "breath of life." There's no smoking gun.

I've always seen that as an absurd wager. Because if the reason you believe is just because you want to play it safe and there actually is a God, then that God would know that you were just playing it safe. I would think God would prefer a tad more honesty.

 

[diver52]

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evolution is proof of a metaphysical existence that traverses time, the atheist might be content as a one time contributor however for others freeing their spirit though accomplishment is an attempt worth trying. life in the Everlasting.

for the religious to claim admission can be accomplished for them is the joke atheist can surly count on in reprisal for believing they will simply die as being the same.

You forget one thing, Breezy dear. Christians do not judge. That's the job of God alone.

Christians do not judge? Not a lot of Christians around then.

 

[Third Party]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Yet, I've heard...

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J. Robert Oppenheimer Father of Atomic Bomb and celebrity atheist

I don't know. What do you think?

I'm not positive, but my answer would be death while Christians fear God.

Atheists may look at death like this.

What the heck, we're all gonna die due to Adam's sin and Satan.

Still, the atheists believe...

No tax breaks

 

[Pogo]

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evolution is proof of a metaphysical existence that traverses time, the atheist might be content as a one time contributor however for others freeing their spirit though accomplishment is an attempt worth trying. life in the Everlasting.

for the religious to claim admission can be accomplished for them is the joke atheist can surly count on in reprisal for believing they will simply die as being the same.

You forget one thing, Breezy dear. Christians do not judge. That's the job of God alone.

Christians do not judge? Not a lot of Christians around then.

"No True Christian" fallacy.

 

[Taz]

No virgins.

 

[ding]

Atheism has consequences. Unless the adult was raised in a Christian home with taught goals and observances, atheism provides a lifelong sense of pointlessness, separation, and chaos. It goes perfect with socialism, and could result in isolationism that brings a society into becoming a vassal nation. That is my opinion.

Even so, believers might consider asking our good Lord to have mercy on those who fail to believe, because oftentimes, we as Christians may have a flaw that becomes exaggerated to the poor in spirit, and the book of Jude cautions us all:

Jude 1: 22 And have mercy on those who doubt.

Please don’t tell this to GT and ricechickie.

 

[ding]

Atheists look at death like this...…

If death is the end, then none of the arguments between believers and atheists matter. However, Blaise Pascal made a wager that if one's soul depended on it in the afterlife, then it's safer to believe. If one knew what causes life to live, then it would show different, but so far we have no God's "breath of life." There's no smoking gun.

I've always seen that as an absurd wager. Because if the reason you believe is just because you want to play it safe and there actually is a God, then that God would know that you were just playing it safe. I would think God would prefer a tad more honesty.

Paschal believed there were so many positive benefits of belief that non-belief is illogical.

There’s your wager.

 

[MAGAman]

So, the question seems to be is whether a comforting myth is preferable to reality.

Don't know about that..

But eternal life is pretty cool.

 

[JoeB131]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Yet, I've heard...

Biggest drawback to Atheism? No one to talk to during a blow job.

Frankly, if the best argument you can come up with is fear of death, it's not a very strong argument.

What if this happens?

 

[onefour1]

Modern evidence tends to lean toward intelligent design and the rejection of Darwinian Theory.

 

[harmonica]

I should talk, but from this fundamental Christian's POV, it's death.

Yet, I've heard...

View attachment 281452

J. Robert Oppenheimer Father of Atomic Bomb and celebrity atheist

I don't know. What do you think?

I'm not positive, but my answer would be death while Christians fear God.

Atheists may look at death like this.

What the heck, we're all gonna die due to Adam's sin and Satan.

Still, the atheists believe...

huh??
WTF is your point?

 

[harmonica]

Modern evidence tends to lean toward intelligent design and the rejection of Darwinian Theory.

there's no proof of god