What is the efficacy of fact checking?

[berg80]

Trump’s false claim of ‘EV mandate’ gains traction in Michigan​

ST. CLAIR SHORES, Michigan — “Attention auto workers: Kamala Harris wants to end all gas powered cars,” a new Trump campaign ad warns Michigan voters. “Crazy, but true!”

Only it’s not true, or at least, not completely. The attack line is a distortion of two policies the vice president and President Joe Biden have pursued: stricter tailpipe pollution standards for newly built cars along with hefty subsidies to produce the new generation of electric vehicles in the U.S.

It’s part of a broader critique Trump and Republicans have leveled at Democrats this election cycle, claiming they support an “EV mandate” that will devastate the U.S. auto industry and open the floodgates to Chinese-made cars. While U.S. tariffs on Chinese vehicles — which Trump first levied and Biden increased — have effectively kept them out of the market, the anti-EV rhetoric is gaining traction in this crucial swing state at the center of American car culture.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/04/electric-vehicle-backlash-michigan-democrats-defensive-00182459

Driven by Republicans, most Americans are concerned about fraud in the 2024 election​

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/03/nx-s1-5130284/election-concerns-voter-fraud-trump-harris-poll

Whether it is a run of the mill lie like the one about EV mandates or the hugely consequential lie about voter fraud the believers seem to be impervious to the truth. Partly because the lies are reinforced by RWM. Partly because The Following has been convinced they can't trust what they hear and read on main stream media even as their favorite RWM sources lie to them. Needless to say it's an enormous problem that is tearing the country down.

 

[1srelluc]

Fuck that high road BS......Trump getting to 270 is all that matters.

 

[Woodznutz]

Biden's new emission standards can only be met by abandoning ICE's, thus the de facto "EV mandate".

 

[Billiejeens]

Biden's new emission standards can only be met by abandoning ICE's, thus the de facto "EV mandate".

Plus

We just agreed to abide by the new UN Pact
Which is incompatible with the continued use of fossil fuel

 

[Donald H]

Fuck that high road BS......Trump getting to 270 is all that matters.

I don't think 270 will have much to do with the election for either party.

That's the reason everybody is so looking forward to Nov. 6th!

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Trump’s false claim of ‘EV mandate’ gains traction in Michigan​

ST. CLAIR SHORES, Michigan — “Attention auto workers: Kamala Harris wants to end all gas powered cars,” a new Trump campaign ad warns Michigan voters. “Crazy, but true!”

Only it’s not true, or at least, not completely. The attack line is a distortion of two policies the vice president and President Joe Biden have pursued: stricter tailpipe pollution standards for newly built cars along with hefty subsidies to produce the new generation of electric vehicles in the U.S.

It’s part of a broader critique Trump and Republicans have leveled at Democrats this election cycle, claiming they support an “EV mandate” that will devastate the U.S. auto industry and open the floodgates to Chinese-made cars. While U.S. tariffs on Chinese vehicles — which Trump first levied and Biden increased — have effectively kept them out of the market, the anti-EV rhetoric is gaining traction in this crucial swing state at the center of American car culture.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/04/electric-vehicle-backlash-michigan-democrats-defensive-00182459

Driven by Republicans, most Americans are concerned about fraud in the 2024 election​

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/03/nx-s1-5130284/election-concerns-voter-fraud-trump-harris-poll

Whether it is a run of the mill lie like the one about EV mandates or the hugely consequential lie about voter fraud the believers seem to be impervious to the truth. Partly because the lies are reinforced by RWM. Partly because The Following has been convinced they can't trust what they hear and read on main stream media even as their favorite RWM sources lie to them. Needless to say it's an enormous problem that is tearing the country down.

But you people are never right about anything

Lying liars may be lying to you.

Nah forward comrade

 

[kyzr]

Biden and his EPA will end fossil fuels and gas powered engines. Only Chinese EV batteries will be allowed...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/02/climate/cop28-methane-announcement-climate/index.html

US announces rule to slash powerful planet-warming methane by nearly 80% from oil and gas​

 

[Woodznutz]

Biden and his EPA will end fossil fuels and gas powered engines. Only Chinese EV batteries will be allowed...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/02/climate/cop28-methane-announcement-climate/index.html

US announces rule to slash powerful planet-warming methane by nearly 80% from oil and gas​

We should be burning renewable methane. It will reduce the use of non-renewable methane (natural gas).

 

[Rawley]

Trump’s false claim of ‘EV mandate’ gains traction in Michigan​

ST. CLAIR SHORES, Michigan — “Attention auto workers: Kamala Harris wants to end all gas powered cars,” a new Trump campaign ad warns Michigan voters. “Crazy, but true!”

Only it’s not true, or at least, not completely.

Well it was completely true in 2019 and 2020. Who knows what her position is today (or tomorrow).

 

[Blaster]

Fuck that high road BS......Trump getting to 270 is all that matters.

Politics is a dirty business.

 

[1srelluc]

Politics is a dirty business.

And the gop does not like playing in the dirt and that's why they fail....That "high road" is paved with the bones of loser gop politicians.

To quote James Carville:

Winning is everything, stupid.