What is the minimum wage for an illegal immigrant?????????????

[danielpalos]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

Another question is...what is the reward for identifying them and getting them deported?

that costs money. we need to generate revenue from potential foreign labor. it must be a federal program and must include a federal id.

 

[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

THe Republican Party nominated and then, with the rest of the country ELECTED a president running against that.

I admit that the Republican leadership is pretty stupid, but surely they noticed.

 

[danielpalos]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

 

[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

 

[danielpalos]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

Increasing the cost of foreign labor does that; a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps.

 

[williepete]

A generation ago, a man could raise a family and own a house and a car by earning a living as a carpenter or a brick mason. Those jobs now have been undercut by illegals and a large portion of their wages leave the country. Money that would otherwise create domestic economic stimulus.


Illegal immigrants send home $50 billion annually but cost taxpayers more than $113 billion

Illegal immigrants residing in the U.S. send $50 billion in remittances to their home countries each year, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The World Bank estimates that number is even higher, closer to $120 billion.

To put that figure into context, $50 billion is the same amount as the U.S. government’s annual foreign aid budget, notes the New York Times. It’s the operating budget of a midsize country, or in America’s case, enough to fund North Carolina and Maine for an entire year.

Illegal immigrants send home $50 billion annually but cost taxpayers more than $113 billion



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[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

Increasing the cost of foreign labor does that; a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps.

Not as well as deporting their asses.

 

[sealybobo]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

Republicans won't go along with that. Goes against their free trade policies that allow corporations to sell to the rest of the world and Max profits.

Like I said expect legal immigration to go up if we do anything about illegals. They'll say to achieve 4% growth we must. We don't have enough workers.

We will not stop exploiting the poor. Capitalism depends on them.

 

[Eaglewings]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

A fellow dad at the local school is s transplanted Californian. He would talk about how when you walked down the streets of san francisco that you would see sweat shop type set ups, with the doors wide open for all to see, filled with illegals making slave wages in horrible conditions.

He blamed the corruption of the city government. Couldn't make the leap to blaming the open border policy.

LOL.... Never happened long enough because they ( like any ring ) would be closed down if found..

This is why sending our jobs, or hiring for temp visa's are so wanted, it brings them in for pennies an hour without protection from a union..BTW your Trump is trying to get visa's for his sons wine company..

Is that ok with you now?

 

[williepete]

Increasing the cost of foreign labor does that; a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps.

With all due respect, I think you're missing the illegal part of illegal labor. I can hire an unskilled worker and pay him the legal minimum wage rate of 58 bucks for an 8 hour day in my border state or I can illegally hire an illegal unskilled worker for 35 bucks a day and he'll work his ass off for 12 or 14 hours.

Raise the legal minimum wage all you want. It will only drive up the demand for cheaper illegal labor.

 

[12icer]

Ask King Trumpery - he employs a lot of undocumented and foreign workers. The link in my sig will show you why.

I didn't see anything to prove that Trump owned any of the businesses you list, SO the fact is that a MUNTINATIONAL company employs LOCAL VENDORS in the area to do their work LOCALLY. Point discounted and proved WRONG by your own evidence.

 

[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

Republicans won't go along with that. Goes against their free trade policies that allow corporations to sell to the rest of the world and Max profits.

Like I said expect legal immigration to go up if we do anything about illegals. They'll say to achieve 4% growth we must. We don't have enough workers.

We will not stop exploiting the poor. Capitalism depends on them.

1. Republicans nominated and the nation elected a man running against our current "Free Trade" policy. The Republicans in congress who like winning should take note.

2. Your 4% argument is based on a number of flawed assumptions as I have previously explained.

3. Capitalism does not depend on exploiting the poor.

 

[sealybobo]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

A fellow dad at the local school is s transplanted Californian. He would talk about how when you walked down the streets of san francisco that you would see sweat shop type set ups, with the doors wide open for all to see, filled with illegals making slave wages in horrible conditions.

He blamed the corruption of the city government. Couldn't make the leap to blaming the open border policy.

LOL.... Never happened long enough because they ( like any ring ) would be closed down if found..

This is why sending our jobs, or hiring for temp visa's goes against brings them in for pennies an hourwithout protection..BTW your Trump is trying to get visa's for his sons wine company..

Is that ok with you now?

Trump got work visas for foreign models. Do you remember that? Visas are for when a company can't find a qualified American to do the job. Apparently trump couldn't find any pretty Americans???

What he did was pay them $80,000 a year which is nothing for an American model.

Here's the kicker. How did we find out about her? She sued trump because he wasn't paying her.

Trump will not fix this problem. Carroll got conned

 

[12icer]

The current policy is not "free trade" It is "take in the ass" trade just as the current occupant of the suit wanted it.

 

[Care4all]

When America was Great, the great you all want to have AGAIN, we had a baby boom that made us great....and then the boomers all having kids....

Most ALL of the increases in GDP and what's in our wallets, came from the growth in our population.... more people equals more purchases, equals more workers needed....

It's like a Ponzi scheme, as long as more people come in to the game, everything seems fine...

When our population growth came to a near halt and the writing was on the wall that our economy was going to hit that wall....a blind eye by our government to undocumented immigrants began....

so to keep our economy at least moving somewhat in the North direction with the population increases the immigrants and undocumented immigrants gave us....is why I think our govt let it go for so long.... Not JUST for cheap labor for their business buddies...

 

[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

A fellow dad at the local school is s transplanted Californian. He would talk about how when you walked down the streets of san francisco that you would see sweat shop type set ups, with the doors wide open for all to see, filled with illegals making slave wages in horrible conditions.

He blamed the corruption of the city government. Couldn't make the leap to blaming the open border policy.

LOL.... Never happened long enough because they ( like any ring ) would be closed down if found..

This is why sending our jobs, or hiring for temp visa's goes against brings them in for pennies an hour without protection from a union..BTW your Trump is trying to get visa's for his sons wine company..

Is that ok with you now?

You think this lefty was lying to me about seeing abuse of illegals? He seemed credible to me.

I have always been in favor of work visas for migrant farm labor. That is one job that I believe is shitty enough that Americans don't want to do it.


Everything else? NO. Shut it down, asap and deport their asses.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

Democrats have always been for slavery of nonwhites.

 

[sealybobo]

When is the, alleged capital right wing, going to solve our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution? Good capitalists generate revenue from market friendliness in public policies, not just fines.

You guys do realize Republicans and corporations both say we need immigrants, right? So expect them to make all the illegals legal very soon.

That's better than illegals but it's not like it's going to help the blue collar trump supporters. If anything it will cost small business owners and consumers

We need a permanent solution that generates revenue from potential foreign labor.

No, we don't. We need a solution that protects our labor pool from cheap third world competition.

Republicans won't go along with that. Goes against their free trade policies that allow corporations to sell to the rest of the world and Max profits.

Like I said expect legal immigration to go up if we do anything about illegals. They'll say to achieve 4% growth we must. We don't have enough workers.

We will not stop exploiting the poor. Capitalism depends on them.

1. Republicans nominated and the nation elected a man running against our current "Free Trade" policy. The Republicans in congress who like winning should take note.

2. Your 4% argument is based on a number of flawed assumptions as I have previously explained.

3. Capitalism does not depend on exploiting the poor.

1. Republicans didn't run on fixing grade. The Republicans will take their chances you won't vote democratic when they let you down.

2. 4% long term growth is what trump promised. This is impossible without immigrants. We can't breed our way into 4% because we don't have 18 years for those babies to grow up. Plus they'll have to go to college after that so we need bodies now. Who's willing to come? Mexicans and Arabs.

3. Yes capitalism requires poor cheap labor. The world needs ditch diggers.

 

[Care4all]

BTW-Migrant worker visas are a dime a dozen....no need for the undocumented, when farmers can easily get documented migrants for tomato picking... yet some farmers now, just by-pass it?

 

[Correll]

They have no minimum wage, some of the people working on farms are getting .25 cents per bushel of tomatoes picked............ So the Democraps are in favor of slave labor. No matter Trump is coming

A fellow dad at the local school is s transplanted Californian. He would talk about how when you walked down the streets of san francisco that you would see sweat shop type set ups, with the doors wide open for all to see, filled with illegals making slave wages in horrible conditions.

He blamed the corruption of the city government. Couldn't make the leap to blaming the open border policy.

LOL.... Never happened long enough because they ( like any ring ) would be closed down if found..

This is why sending our jobs, or hiring for temp visa's goes against brings them in for pennies an hourwithout protection..BTW your Trump is trying to get visa's for his sons wine company..

Is that ok with you now?

Trump got work visas for foreign models. Do you remember that? Visas are for when a company can't find a qualified American to do the job. Apparently trump couldn't find any pretty Americans???

What he did was pay them $80,000 a year which is nothing for an American model.

Here's the kicker. How did we find out about her? She sued trump because he wasn't paying her.

Trump will not fix this problem. Carroll got conned

Why do you believe that it is impossible for him to behave one way then and differently now?