What I've Learned From The US Election

[MisterBeale]

Republicans still live in the bubble in which Trump prospered, they still remain in their made up media world unaware there are more people in America than their racist, xenophobic base, aka the 'deplorables'. Intellectually honest republicans shake their heads over their party's own creation and a right wing media that when it isn't lying is into conspiratorial nonsense aimed at the gullible. When Trump loses, sadly the same useless party that promoted a clown as their president, will still have much of congress and many states in their incompetent hands. People need to vote in mid-terms and politics needs to be raised up as a noble American job and not a place for partisan ideologues.

"A surefire politics of change would necessarily involve getting people in the middle — from the 30th to the 70th percentile — to see their own economic self-interest. If they vote in their own self-interest, they’ll elect people who are likely to be more aligned with people with lower incomes as well as with them. As long as people in the middle identify more with people on the top than with those on the bottom, we are doomed. The obscene amount of money flowing into the electoral process makes things harder yet." Peter Edelman http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/why-cant-we-end-poverty-in-america.html

I can't believe you are STILL reading the NYT. It's a shit rag meant to control your thoughts. It isn't worth the paper it is written on.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes, he was smart enough to realize that people have had enough... as they have.

And you know what Norman? That's ine. I get that. But Trump is the answer? Fuck, I hate to think what the question was. The GoP or whoever could have done a lot better. You do know, right now that if Rubio at been the nominee Clinton would be toast. Absolutely burnt, charcoaled, chargrilled toast. Conservative American never misses and opportunity to miss an opportunity. You know why? Because at its very core, there are a significant few who are just plain dumb. Stupid. Idiots. And I don't mean in a joking way. I mean they are seriously dumb. Low IQs. And the rest of you normal conservatives pay the price.

 

[Norman]

Yes, he was smart enough to realize that people have had enough... as they have.

And you know what Norman? That's ine. I get that. But Trump is the answer? Fuck, I hate to think what the question was. The GoP or whoever could have done a lot better. You do know, right now that if Rubio at been the nominee Clinton would be toast. Absolutely burnt, charcoaled, chargrilled toast. Conservative American never misses and opportunity to miss an opportunity. You know why? Because at its very core, there are a significant few who are just plain dumb. Stupid. Idiots. And I don't mean in a joking way. I mean they are seriously dumb. Low IQs. And the rest of you normal conservatives pay the price.

This is complete crock. It doesn't matter who the candidate was, Clinton's media would have gone after all the same. He needed to be a strong alpha man for that reason alone. Sanders got nowhere, because he let the PC crowd take over.

I am not a conservative, or low IQ, so... I suppose you are just being dumb.

 

[Dr Grump]

Of course, I am not sure when she is in her pirvate and when in her public persona... I am confident both of those are liars though.

No, no, no. You see this is thing. Everybody - even most democrats agree - that what Clinton did was stupid. No doubt. But this is the thing. And this is why most of us laugh about it (in a sarcastic way). There seems to be this subtext that Hillary lied and did it on purpose. How ridiculous. There was nothing malicious about her server issue or emails. She was not trying to undermine the US. She was not trying to give your enemies a 'gotcha'. In fact it was the exact opposite. Only afterwards did she realise that it was the wrong thing to do. And she knows that. Yet somehow, Trumplethinskin and all his acolytes somehow think Hillary is trying to undermine the US, and everybody in it. And all us normal people know just how stupid that is. And THAT is why Trumpie and his moron mates look so fucking stupid.

 

[MisterBeale]

There is plenty of evidence that she has lied. Her email scandal was a disaster as well, there is no question of that.

It's pretty bad if your standard is to support the gal who just barely avoided prison... and it appears, even that was because of lack of impartiality from the FBI.

How did she lie. Take your time.

It is not only about how SHE lied, it is how the system is lying to you.


Don't you find it just oddly suspicious that this Access Hollywood video is leaked on the EXACT same day that Wikileaks releases the information that was in her speeches to Goldimans? Yeah, I do.


She lies about everything. She even admits it in that latest Wikileak dump. She tells the big banks that she needs to have a public stand on issues, and a PRIVATE STAND on issues. In order to do that, YOU NEED TO LIE.


That means, being a wolf in sheep clothing. That is the very definition of a liar.

 

[Norman]

Of course, I am not sure when she is in her pirvate and when in her public persona... I am confident both of those are liars though.

No, no, no. You see this is thing. Everybody - even most democrats agree - that what Clinton did was stupid. No doubt. But this is the thing. And this is why most of us laugh about it (in a sarcastic way). There seems to be this subtext that Hillary lied and did it on purpose. How ridiculous. There was noting malicious about her server issue or emails. She was not trying to undermine the US. She was not trying to give your enemies a 'gotcha'. In fact it was the exact opposite. Only afterwards did she realise that it was the wrong thing to do. And she knows that. Yet somehow, Trumplethinsking and all his acolytes somehow think Hillary is trying to undermine the US, and everybody in it. And all us normal people know just how stupid that is. And THAT is why Trumpie and is moron mates look so fucking stupid.

She didn't try to destroy the USA... WOW! Thanks, so this is your standard for selecting the candidate? Does it not matter if she broke the law?

She also tried to lower health care costs and... oops. Even her husband admits it was a disaster.

She lies all the time... she is in it for herself primarily... get her out I say.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes, he was smart enough to realize that people have had enough... as they have.

And you know what Norman? That's ine. I get that. But Trump is the answer? Fuck, I hate to think what the question was. The GoP or whoever could have done a lot better. You do know, right now that if Rubio at been the nominee Clinton would be toast. Absolutely burnt, charcoaled, chargrilled toast. Conservative American never misses and opportunity to miss an opportunity. You know why? Because at its very core, there are a significant few who are just plain dumb. Stupid. Idiots. And I don't mean in a joking way. I mean they are seriously dumb. Low IQs. And the rest of you normal conservatives pay the price.

This is complete crock. It doesn't matter who the candidate was, Clinton's media would have gone after all the same. He needed to be a strong alpha man for that reason alone. Sanders got nowhere, because he let the PC crowd take over.

I am not a conservative, or low IQ, so... I suppose you are just being dumb.

See my last sentence. I never said you had a low IQ..;O)

 

[MisterBeale]

If you are saying that Trump is dumb - you are the one who is insane and suffers from very high degree of Dunning Kruger.

Clintons are absolutely the worst thing ever, corrupt, lying sacks of shit. Trump all the way. Stop drinking the media/regressive democrat kool-aid.

Trump is thick as pig shit. Dumber than a sack of rocks. And anybody who votes for him is the same.

I know the Clintons are unpopular. But I have yet to see any evidence with regards to lying sacks of shit,.

There is plenty of evidence that she has lied. Her email scandal was a disaster as well, there is no question of that.

It's pretty bad if your standard is to support the gal who just barely avoided prison... and it appears, even that was because of lack of impartiality from the FBI.

I'm not sure it was the FBI. It had mostly to do with the Attorney's general office. The FBI, I'm pretty sure, to them the evidence was there to prosecute.

 

[Dr Grump]

2) It shows how truly dumb some people on the right are (being genuine here, some are as thick as pig shit) for liking Trump. I mean they have a history of it - Quayle, Dumbya, Palin and now Trump

It only tells me you're easily duped by the CONSTANT onslaught of leftwing propaganda.

I take that into consideration in your posts.

It's nto even a right or left thing, it's US politics in general. Totally toxic...

 

[Dr Grump]

1) First and most importantly: Washington needs to stop kowtowing to rich, special interests. People have had enough.
2) It shows how truly dumb some people on the right are (being genuine here, some are as thick as pig shit) for liking Trump. I mean they have a history of it - Quayle, Dumbya, Palin and now Trump. There is a disturbing trend here. Please bring in compulsory IQ tests for voting. Sane, rational, normal, intelligent people should not have to put up with thick-as-pig-shit dumbarses like Trump supporters.
3) The Clintons are absolutely hated by certain aspects of American society. Even to the point some would sell their souls to keep them out of the white house.

Why are you trying to disenfranchise the poor and minorities?

Who says poor or minorities are dumb? you?

 

[Dr Grump]

What I've learned is foreigners should probably keep their opinions to themselves, because they are even bigger suckers to the American Deep State propaganda than Americans are. Useful tools only.
I have Canadian friends that eat that shit up. The Australians and British are the worst.

Anyone remember that old girl Naomi? What a sucker for BBC and other globalist propaganda she was. A regular old carbon copy of Dr. Grump here. Lemmings the lot of them. Interchangeable brains I tell ya.


At least Americans use their 1st Amendment to the fullest and know what it means. We have a history of critical thinking and put it to good use.

The last thing I am is a sucker. I understand American politics only too well. The US have a history of critical thinking? At what level?

 

[Dr Grump]

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It is not only about how SHE lied, it is how the system is lying to you.

Don't you find it just oddly suspicious that this Access Hollywood video is leaked on the EXACT same day that Wikileaks releases the information that was in her speeches to Goldimans? Yeah, I do.

She lies about everything. She even admits it in that latest Wikileak dump. She tells the big banks that she needs to have a public stand on issues, and a PRIVATE STAND on issues. In order to do that, YOU NEED TO LIE.

That means, being a wolf in sheep clothing. That is the very definition of a liar.

1) What did she lie about
2) I don't are when the Access Hollywood piece was released. Today. Tomorrow. 2134. 2018. I don;t care. He said it. He owns it. Tough shit. Stop saying sexist things and it never comes to light. Easy.
3) Of course she has a public and private stance on issues. EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN DOES. And?

 

[Dr Grump]

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She didn't try to destroy the USA... WOW! Thanks, so this is your standard for selecting the candidate? Does it not matter if she broke the law?

She also tried to lower health care costs and... oops. Even her husband admits it was a disaster.

She lies all the time... she is in it for herself primarily... get her out I say.

I'll take facts, not rhetoric. Links to Bill...ta

 

[cnm]

Well, I was going to say, who produces most of the best alternative media. [...]
I guess I stand corrected?

That comment seems to ignore the meaning of the 1st Amendment.

Perhaps you do if I could link your comments in some way to the 1st Amendment.

 

[cnm]

Sanders got nowhere, because he let the PC crowd take over.

Because he was not a Democratic Party member and because the US is not yet ready for someone who has 'socialist' or 'social democrat' in their self description. Half of the US is still fighting the cold war, 'commie' being a common epithet.

 

[defcon4]

1) First and most importantly: Washington needs to stop kowtowing to rich, special interests. People have had enough.
2) It shows how truly dumb some people on the right are (being genuine here, some are as thick as pig shit) for liking Trump. I mean they have a history of it - Quayle, Dumbya, Palin and now Trump. There is a disturbing trend here. Please bring in compulsory IQ tests for voting. Sane, rational, normal, intelligent people should not have to put up with thick-as-pig-shit dumbarses like Trump supporters.
3) The Clintons are absolutely hated by certain aspects of American society. Even to the point some would sell their souls to keep them out of the white house.

Why are you trying to disenfranchise the poor and minorities?

Who says poor or minorities are dumb? you?

You do.

 

[Norman]

She didn't try to destroy the USA... WOW! Thanks, so this is your standard for selecting the candidate? Does it not matter if she broke the law?

She also tried to lower health care costs and... oops. Even her husband admits it was a disaster.

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It is not only about how SHE lied, it is how the system is lying to you.

Don't you find it just oddly suspicious that this Access Hollywood video is leaked on the EXACT same day that Wikileaks releases the information that was in her speeches to Goldimans? Yeah, I do.

She lies about everything. She even admits it in that latest Wikileak dump. She tells the big banks that she needs to have a public stand on issues, and a PRIVATE STAND on issues. In order to do that, YOU NEED TO LIE.

That means, being a wolf in sheep clothing. That is the very definition of a liar.

1) What did she lie about
2) I don't are when the Access Hollywood piece was released. Today. Tomorrow. 2134. 2018. I don;t care. He said it. He owns it. Tough shit. Stop saying sexist things and it never comes to light. Easy.
3) Of course she has a public and private stance on issues. EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN DOES. And?

"I understand American politics very well"

"What did she lie about?"


My gosh...

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

1) First and most importantly: Washington needs to stop kowtowing to rich, special interests. People have had enough.
2) It shows how truly dumb some people on the right are (being genuine here, some are as thick as pig shit) for liking Trump. I mean they have a history of it - Quayle, Dumbya, Palin and now Trump. There is a disturbing trend here. Please bring in compulsory IQ tests for voting. Sane, rational, normal, intelligent people should not have to put up with thick-as-pig-shit dumbarses like Trump supporters.
3) The Clintons are absolutely hated by certain aspects of American society. Even to the point some would sell their souls to keep them out of the white house.

If you are saying that Trump is dumb - you are the one who is insane and suffers from very high degree of Dunning Kruger.

Clintons are absolutely the worst thing ever, corrupt, lying sacks of shit. Trump all the way. Stop drinking the media/regressive democrat kool-aid.

i don't know if he's "dumb" in the sense of having a low IQ....but he's certainly dumb in his lack of knowledge about basic things a president needs to know. he decided this was a vanity project for him and thinks that he can act during the general election the way he did with the GOP clown car. The "base" doesn't care if he doesn't know anything. they just want him to keep throwing them red meat. that's why he's topped out at about 40%

As long as Hilary can make it about Trump rather than her record or a focus on those policies she supports, she stands a greater chance at winning. I've never seen a democrat candidate go off target on a discussion of policy as often as this one we are dealing with here in this election.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

1) First and most importantly: Washington needs to stop kowtowing to rich, special interests. People have had enough.
2) It shows how truly dumb some people on the right are (being genuine here, some are as thick as pig shit) for liking Trump. I mean they have a history of it - Quayle, Dumbya, Palin and now Trump. There is a disturbing trend here. Please bring in compulsory IQ tests for voting. Sane, rational, normal, intelligent people should not have to put up with thick-as-pig-shit dumbarses like Trump supporters.
3) The Clintons are absolutely hated by certain aspects of American society. Even to the point some would sell their souls to keep them out of the white house.

1. I agree. Make it a federal offense with hard labor.

2. It shows how truly dumb people are on both sides of the aisle, and especially foreigners who should fucking mind their own business. You. Name only Republicans. They are all the same. But. You. Are a fucking Progressive Marxist, without sanity, rationale, are not normal, and we Sane Americans shouldn't have to put up with thick as a pig dumbasses like YOU.

You idiots are a disturbing trend, and need to stay out of our affairs and get your own in order.

We should force compulsory testing on anyone who votes? We tried that. Didn't work out so well. We fixed that.

I'm not a Republican, nor conservative and I fucking despise the Clintons.

 

[MisterBeale]

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It is not only about how SHE lied, it is how the system is lying to you.

Don't you find it just oddly suspicious that this Access Hollywood video is leaked on the EXACT same day that Wikileaks releases the information that was in her speeches to Goldimans? Yeah, I do.

She lies about everything. She even admits it in that latest Wikileak dump. She tells the big banks that she needs to have a public stand on issues, and a PRIVATE STAND on issues. In order to do that, YOU NEED TO LIE.

That means, being a wolf in sheep clothing. That is the very definition of a liar.

1) What did she lie about
2) I don't are when the Access Hollywood piece was released. Today. Tomorrow. 2134. 2018. I don;t care. He said it. He owns it. Tough shit. Stop saying sexist things and it never comes to light. Easy.
3) Of course she has a public and private stance on issues. EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN DOES. And?

You know what globalists (i.e. folks that lap up international press) and millennials have in common? They both unquestionably believe the MSM paradigm as it is fed to them. W/O question. Yes, she lies.

She has repeatedly said she isn't for open borders and free trade. Everyone with a brain knows she is. The Wikileaks release on the same day, which only had a small story in the BBC, and wasn't hardly covered anywhere else or got any traction in the debate, which should have been hammered by the RNC, is MIA.

*Hillary Clinton Said Her Dream Is A Hemispheric Common Market, With Open Trade And Open Markets. *“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 28] *Hillary Clinton Said We Have To Have A Concerted Plan To Increase Trade; We Have To Resist Protectionism And Other Kinds Of Barriers To Trade. *“Secondly, I think we have to have a concerted plan to increase trade already under the current circumstances, you know, that Inter-American Development Bank figure is pretty surprising. There is so much more we can do, there is a lot of low hanging fruit but businesses on both sides have to make it a priority and it's not for governments to do but governments can either make it easy or make it hard and we have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade and I would like to see this get much more attention and be not just a policy for a year under president X or president Y but a consistent one.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 32]
WikiLeaks - The Podesta Emails

My lord, there is SO MUCH MORE, I could go into to destroy your ignorance, but I have a severe migraine and need to lie down. Do your own research.


The truth? Americas choice. . . . .

A sexist or a sociopath liar.