What Kind of State in Israel?

[P F Tinmore]

I have asked you what Concessions Abbas has made and there has been no response. I have told you what Abbas is Demanding, he is NOT going to get it, and there has been no response. I have asked you what " Compromises" Abbas has made and there has been no response. All I have heard from you is Israel you SMARTGAL

I don't know what Abbas said, that's not what I'm talking about. I said that Israel should use its dominant force position to make a worthwhile peace offer and not just sit around waiting for the other side to nuke up.

You should learn how to read. Abbas has made it very clear that he will not accept anything except the 67 Borders and " Right of Return". This is something that everyone ( except you) knows. That is not going to happen. Iran " nuking" up? So you admit that the Arabs will start WW 111 with Israel yet it's Israel who is causing all the trouble in that region? lol Very sick, demented Pro- Palestinian " thinking". Iran INITIATES the War with Israel yet it's Israel's fault. Leave it to a Pro- Palestinian

Abbas has made it very clear that he will not accept anything except the 67 Borders...

That is a huge concession. Hamas wants to go back to 48 borders. Of course those are still the official borders.

 

[docmauser1]

That is a huge concession. Hamas wants to go back to 48 borders. Of course those are still the official borders.

Of course not.

 

[irosie91]

That is a huge concession. Hamas wants to go back to 48 borders. Of course those are still the official borders.

Of course not.

what '48 borders?

 

[Hossfly]

I don't know what Abbas said, that's not what I'm talking about. I said that Israel should use its dominant force position to make a worthwhile peace offer and not just sit around waiting for the other side to nuke up.

You should learn how to read. Abbas has made it very clear that he will not accept anything except the 67 Borders and " Right of Return". This is something that everyone ( except you) knows. That is not going to happen. Iran " nuking" up? So you admit that the Arabs will start WW 111 with Israel yet it's Israel who is causing all the trouble in that region? lol Very sick, demented Pro- Palestinian " thinking". Iran INITIATES the War with Israel yet it's Israel's fault. Leave it to a Pro- Palestinian

Abbas has made it very clear that he will not accept anything except the 67 Borders...

That is a huge concession. Hamas wants to go back to 48 borders. Of course those are still the official borders.

Show us the official 1948 map, Tinmore.

 

[georgephillip]

"The fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict grinds on without resolution might appear to be rather strange. For many of the world's conflicts, it is difficult even to conjure up a feasible settlement.

"In this case, it is not only possible, but there is near universal agreement on its basic contours: a two-state settlement along the internationally recognized (pre-June 1967) borders -- with 'minor and mutual modifications,' to adopt official U.S. terminology before Washington departed from the international community in the mid-1970s."

Right of Return doesn't mean every Arab illegally evicted from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948 is entitled to live inside the Green Line today. It does mean every Arab so victimized is deserving of just compensation for their loss.

Currently, Jews rule over all the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River yet there a million more Arabs than Jews living on that land.

Jews wil soon have to choose between living in a democratic state(s) or a Jewish State.

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

Arabs/ Abbas are not demanding Israel make ALL concessions? Another lie. They are DEMANDING " Right of Return" for anyone who wants to go which obviously now includes generations. That is a good part of the " Saudi Peace Plan" Israel is not going to go back to Borders that the Arabs never recognized or respected before and be denied access to E. Jerusalem while the Palestinians have free reign. It's that simple. After 1948 Jordan was supposed to allow Israelis to have access to their Holy Sites but of course were denied this. This will never happen again.

2013 in the Holy Land.
Five million Jews rule six million Arabs living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
Jewish State or Democratic State; what's your choice?

 

[P F Tinmore]

That is a huge concession. Hamas wants to go back to 48 borders. Of course those are still the official borders.

Of course not.

what '48 borders?

Post a 1948 map and you will see them..

 

[irosie91]

Of course not.

what '48 borders?

Post a 1948 map and you will see them..

The 1948 map shows TRUCE LINES ----not borders. Are you calling the truce lines "borders"?

 

[P F Tinmore]

what '48 borders?

Post a 1948 map and you will see them..

The 1948 map shows TRUCE LINES ----not borders. Are you calling the truce lines "borders"?

The truce lines are 1949. Post a 1948 map of Israel. Post a map of Israel without the truce lines.

 

[irosie91]

what for? "borders" were never determined check out "islamic" geography books simply ---no israel. how about a 300 BC map of saudi arabia?

 

[georgephillip]

"In 1949, Israel signed separate armistices with Egypt on 24 February, Lebanon on 23 March, Jordan on 3 April, and Syria on 20 July.

"The Armistice Demarcation Lines, as set by the agreements, saw the territory under Israeli control encompassing approximately three-quarters of the prior British administered Mandate as it stood after Transjordan's independence in 1946.

"Israel occupied territories of about one-third more than was allocated to the Jewish State under the UN partition proposal.[155]

"After the armistices, Israel had control over 78% of the territory comprising former Mandatory Palestine[156] or some 8,000 square miles (21,000 km2), including the entire Galilee and Jezreel Valley in the north, whole Negev in south, West Jerusalem and the coastal plain in the center."

1948 Arab

 

[irosie91]

oh good-----Israel had a very large influx of people at that time----lots from
islamo nazi shit holes-----and, of course, all the survivors of the siege of East Jerusalem

 

[proudveteran06]

what '48 borders?

Post a 1948 map and you will see them..

The 1948 map shows TRUCE LINES ----not borders. Are you calling the truce lines "borders"?

The Pro- Palestinian is willing to do that. This makes it even better for Israel. NO ONE even in the U.N. is demanding that Israel go baclk to the 1948 " Borders"( Not really) that haven't been accepted since 1948.

 

[irosie91]

Post a 1948 map and you will see them..

The 1948 map shows TRUCE LINES ----not borders. Are you calling the truce lines "borders"?

The Pro- Palestinian is willing to do that. This makes it even better for Israel. NO ONE even in the U.N. is demanding that Israel go baclk to the 1948 " Borders"( Not really) that haven't been accepted since 1948.

tinnie has a theory-----COUNTRY BORDERS were determined by allah on the FIRST DAY
of "CREATION" including the endless lands conferred upon the UMMAH as "MUSLIM
LAND" of course that includes ALL OF THE MIDDLE EAST-----and ---the "borders"
are IMMUTABLE ------except for Texas---which seems to have changed its borders
several times in the 7000 year history----california and Idaho, too

 

[proudveteran06]

"In 1949, Israel signed separate armistices with Egypt on 24 February, Lebanon on 23 March, Jordan on 3 April, and Syria on 20 July.

"The Armistice Demarcation Lines, as set by the agreements, saw the territory under Israeli control encompassing approximately three-quarters of the prior British administered Mandate as it stood after Transjordan's independence in 1946.

"Israel occupied territories of about one-third more than was allocated to the Jewish State under the UN partition proposal.[155]

"After the armistices, Israel had control over 78% of the territory comprising former Mandatory Palestine[156] or some 8,000 square miles (21,000 km2), including the entire Galilee and Jezreel Valley in the north, whole Negev in south, West Jerusalem and the coastal plain in the center."

1948 Arab

The " Armistice Agreements" that the Arabs did not recognize or respect? Now, THAT is funny.....lol

 

[P F Tinmore]

"In 1949, Israel signed separate armistices with Egypt on 24 February, Lebanon on 23 March, Jordan on 3 April, and Syria on 20 July.

"The Armistice Demarcation Lines, as set by the agreements, saw the territory under Israeli control encompassing approximately three-quarters of the prior British administered Mandate as it stood after Transjordan's independence in 1946.

"Israel occupied territories of about one-third more than was allocated to the Jewish State under the UN partition proposal.[155]

"After the armistices, Israel had control over 78% of the territory comprising former Mandatory Palestine[156] or some 8,000 square miles (21,000 km2), including the entire Galilee and Jezreel Valley in the north, whole Negev in south, West Jerusalem and the coastal plain in the center."

1948 Arab

The " Armistice Agreements" that the Arabs did not recognize or respect? Now, THAT is funny.....lol

Which Arabs are you talking about?

 

[Hossfly]

"In 1949, Israel signed separate armistices with Egypt on 24 February, Lebanon on 23 March, Jordan on 3 April, and Syria on 20 July.

"The Armistice Demarcation Lines, as set by the agreements, saw the territory under Israeli control encompassing approximately three-quarters of the prior British administered Mandate as it stood after Transjordan's independence in 1946.

"Israel occupied territories of about one-third more than was allocated to the Jewish State under the UN partition proposal.[155]

"After the armistices, Israel had control over 78% of the territory comprising former Mandatory Palestine[156] or some 8,000 square miles (21,000 km2), including the entire Galilee and Jezreel Valley in the north, whole Negev in south, West Jerusalem and the coastal plain in the center."

1948 Arab

The " Armistice Agreements" that the Arabs did not recognize or respect? Now, THAT is funny.....lol

Which Arabs are you talking about?

Mongolian Arabs, Wise Ass.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The " Armistice Agreements" that the Arabs did not recognize or respect? Now, THAT is funny.....lol

Which Arabs are you talking about?

Mongolian Arabs, Wise Ass.

There was a truce between the Israelis and the Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, and Egyptians.

There was no truce with the Palestinians.

 

[irosie91]

Which Arabs are you talking about?

Mongolian Arabs, Wise Ass.

There was a truce between the Israelis and the Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, and Egyptians.

There was no truce with the Palestinians.

There were no "palestinian" arab muslims back then tinnie As to the TRUCE ---truce lines are not borders and your fellow filth decided NOT TO RECOGNIZE the existence of Israel-----read that "THE STINK AND FILTH AND PERVERSITY OF ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Mongolian Arabs, Wise Ass.

There was a truce between the Israelis and the Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, and Egyptians.

There was no truce with the Palestinians.

There were no "palestinian" arab muslims back then tinnie As to the TRUCE ---truce lines are not borders and your fellow filth decided NOT TO RECOGNIZE the existence of Israel-----read that "THE STINK AND FILTH AND PERVERSITY OF ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM"

Israel exists inside Palestine's borders.

That is the root of the conflict.

 

[irosie91]

There was a truce between the Israelis and the Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, and Egyptians.

There was no truce with the Palestinians.

There were no "palestinian" arab muslims back then tinnie As to the TRUCE ---truce lines are not borders and your fellow filth decided NOT TO RECOGNIZE the existence of Israel-----read that "THE STINK AND FILTH AND PERVERSITY OF ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM"

Israel exists inside Palestine's borders.

That is the root of the conflict.

The root of the conflict is the islamo nazi pig lie that "PALESTINE" is
"MUSLIM LAND" when IN FACT "PALESTINE" is simply an alternate name for
ISRAEL JUDEA and ALSO the fact that the filthy IMPERIALIST DOGS of arabia ---did
invade and pillage and rape and murder in PALESTINE for a time which according to the perversity of their "CREED" renders the entire land the ETERNAL POSSESSION OF THE FILTH AND STENCH OF SHARIAH ADHERENT ASS LICKERS OF THE RAPIST PIG OF MECCA