What Kind of State in Israel?

[proudveteran06]

Are you saying that the Palestinians started the 1948 war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists?

Islamo nazi pigs started the war of 1948 in the year 629 CE --when they did their characteristic MURDER RAPE AND PILLAGE for the
glory of allah/isa in the battle of KHAYBAR-----they continued that attack
INCESSANTLY over the next in excess of 13 centuries in the countries which they invaded and inflicted their filth---in Africa, Europe and Asia----
and very definitely in Palestine ---aka Israel/Judea
They revved up the islamo nazi filth in the early 1900s when to the DELIGHT of TINNIE et al-----they embarked on his ALL TIME FAVE of infant
throat slitting and rape of JOOOOOS in palestine aka Israel/Judea and in the land in which they had already imposed their filth and stink ---
upon ALREADY EXISTING --INDIGENOUS Jewish populations----such as in
Iraq and Yemen and Tunisia and Morocco----etc etc

So iro, if the Jews knew what was going to happen in Palestine if they went back there, why did they go there? Didn't have enough shit with Hitler and just wanted to take some more pounding?

This comes from the Pro- Palestinian who tells us that Abbas is " compromising and negotiating" yet when you ask for the link there is nobody home. Consider the source

 

[ima]

Islamo nazi pigs started the war of 1948 in the year 629 CE --when they did their characteristic MURDER RAPE AND PILLAGE for the
glory of allah/isa in the battle of KHAYBAR-----they continued that attack
INCESSANTLY over the next in excess of 13 centuries in the countries which they invaded and inflicted their filth---in Africa, Europe and Asia----
and very definitely in Palestine ---aka Israel/Judea
They revved up the islamo nazi filth in the early 1900s when to the DELIGHT of TINNIE et al-----they embarked on his ALL TIME FAVE of infant
throat slitting and rape of JOOOOOS in palestine aka Israel/Judea and in the land in which they had already imposed their filth and stink ---
upon ALREADY EXISTING --INDIGENOUS Jewish populations----such as in
Iraq and Yemen and Tunisia and Morocco----etc etc

So iro, if the Jews knew what was going to happen in Palestine if they went back there, why did they go there? Didn't have enough shit with Hitler and just wanted to take some more pounding?

This comes from the Pro- Palestinian who tells us that Abbas is " compromising and negotiating" yet when you ask for the link there is nobody home. Consider the source

You're a fucking retard, I've NEVER mentioned Abbas, so go fuck yourself, you little zionut.

 

[georgephillip]

how fascinating it is certainly true that economics drive history. Some historians believe that the wars that rocked the middle east----in the era about 2500 to 1600 years ago and the programs of CONQUEST that even led to the romans ROAMING to the British Isles were related to changes in
weather and crop failures SO???? if not for the IRISH POTATO FAMINE----there might not be a SAINT PATRICK'S DAY PARADE in Manhattan
New York each year. I have head that the custom of eating "CORNED BEEF AND CABBAGE" on St Patrick's day----actually developed in New York City because the Irish people escaping the POTATO FAMINE-----came into
contact with jews in----the southern part of Manhattan Isn't that interesting? Now tell me more about what brought the jews to palestine
in the 1800s-------the BRITISH SENT THEM AFTER OIL?

Not OIL, fool, POTATOES!

We both remember 1969 and the number of bombs going off in Northern Ireland.
When did that example of Royal divide and conquer begin?
1609.

"Ariel Sharon and former Prime Minister Menachem Begin normally take credit for creating the 'facts on the ground' policies that have poured more than 420,000 settlers into the Occupied Territories. But they were simply copying Charles I, the English King, who in 1609 forcibly removed the O’Neill and O’Donnell clans from the north of Ireland, moved in 20,000 English and Scottish Protestants, and founded the Plantation of Ulster.

The 'removal' was never really meant to cleanse Ulster of the Irish. Native labor was essential to the Plantation’s success and within 15 years more than 4,000 native Irish tenants and their families were back in Ulster. But they lived in a land divided into religious castes, with the Protestant invaders on top and the Catholic natives on the bottom.

"Protestants were awarded the 'Ulster privilege' which gave them special access to land and lower rents, and also served to divide them from the native Catholics.

"The 'Ulster Privilege' is not dissimilar to the kind of 'privilege' Israeli settlers enjoy in the Territories today, where their mortgages are cheap, their taxes lower and their education subsidized."

Irish potatoes and Arab oil are commodities that rich, royal parasites have coveted in the past and continue to pursue today; yet more proof that Economics still drives History.

Divide and Conquer as Imperial Rules | FPIF

 

[irosie91]

how fascinating it is certainly true that economics drive history. Some historians believe that the wars that rocked the middle east----in the era about 2500 to 1600 years ago and the programs of CONQUEST that even led to the romans ROAMING to the British Isles were related to changes in
weather and crop failures SO???? if not for the IRISH POTATO FAMINE----there might not be a SAINT PATRICK'S DAY PARADE in Manhattan
New York each year. I have head that the custom of eating "CORNED BEEF AND CABBAGE" on St Patrick's day----actually developed in New York City because the Irish people escaping the POTATO FAMINE-----came into
contact with jews in----the southern part of Manhattan Isn't that interesting? Now tell me more about what brought the jews to palestine
in the 1800s-------the BRITISH SENT THEM AFTER OIL?

Not OIL, fool, POTATOES!


We both remember 1969 and the number of bombs going off in Northern Ireland.
When did that example of Royal divide and conquer begin?
1609.

"Ariel Sharon and former Prime Minister Menachem Begin normally take credit for creating the 'facts on the ground' policies that have poured more than 420,000 settlers into the Occupied Territories. But they were simply copying Charles I, the English King, who in 1609 forcibly removed the O’Neill and O’Donnell clans from the north of Ireland, moved in 20,000 English and Scottish Protestants, and founded the Plantation of
Ulster.

The 'removal' was never really meant to cleanse Ulster of the Irish. Native labor was essential to the Plantation’s success and within 15 years more than 4,000 native Irish tenants and their families were back in Ulster. But they lived in a land divided into
religious castes, with the Protestant invaders on top and the Catholic natives on the bottom.

"Protestants were awarded the 'Ulster privilege' which gave them special access to land
and lower rents, and also served to divide them from the native Catholics.

"The 'Ulster Privilege' is not dissimilar to the kind of 'privilege' Israeli settlers enjoy in the Territories today, where their mortgages are cheap, their taxes lower and their education

subsidized."

Irish potatoes and Arab oil are commodities that rich, royal parasites have coveted in the past and continue to pursue today; yet more proof that Economics still drives History.

Divide and Conquer as Imperial Rules | FPIF

YES YES all very fascinating---and do you know why jews lived in ARABIA?
Arabia was the STOP OVER root for the WEST <<>>EAST spice and
textile trade Do you know why Muhummad wanted MECCA so badly?
Mecca was the FOCAL POINT of that marketing thing CREATED
by the east<<>><<>>west trade ----Muhummad started his
career ROBBING CARAVANS Now lets try to figure out
why the ARABIANS invaded Palestine aka Judea/Israel The
very first place they did that rape, murder, pillage thing was
YEMEN They already ---a pre islamic --had had the corner
on the SLAVE TRADE. Ask Sherri----she read the bible---the
people to whom JOSEPH's brother was SOLD as a slave to
be shipped to egypt was called ISHMAELITES.
Sudan is actually an ARAB SLAVE TRADING COLONY ---the
arabian slave trading window to SUBSAHARAN AFRICA and
all the "ABEDS" any ISLAMICIST could ever want

 

[georgephillip]

Rosie...are you saying rich Arabs hate and fear the poor as much Charles I?

 

[irosie91]

Rosie...are you saying rich Arabs hate and fear the poor as much Charles I?

more---that is why the SAUDI ROYALS import Jewish doctors. Rich
arabs live in constant fear of assassination and plots against them

 

[georgephillip]

And yet when governments fall in Arab states the new leaders are cast in the same authoritarian mold as their predecessors.

 

[SAYIT]

And yet when governments fall in Arab states the new leaders are cast in the same authoritarian mold as their predecessors.

MJ would likely call that the "Arab mentality" but freedom, justice, equality and tolerance might not be the lifestyle to which they aspire. It's their choice. Unfortunately many who leave the Arab World, ostensibly for a better life, often take those pathologies with them and try to erect their Sharia World in the West. Pity, really.

 

[member]

GEORGEPHILLIP: "Two core questions that need to be answered:"

1) “What kind of state is Israel”

and. . .


2) “Who are the Palestinians “that state” is in conflict with?"

 

[georgephillip]

And yet when governments fall in Arab states the new leaders are cast in the same authoritarian mold as their predecessors.

MJ would likely call that the "Arab mentality" but freedom, justice, equality and tolerance might not be the lifestyle to which they aspire. It's their choice. Unfortunately many who leave the Arab World, ostensibly for a better life, often take those pathologies with them and try to erect their Sharia World in the West. Pity, really.

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

 

[SAYIT]

And yet when governments fall in Arab states the new leaders are cast in the same authoritarian mold as their predecessors.

MJ would likely call that the "Arab mentality" but freedom, justice, equality and tolerance might not be the lifestyle to which they aspire. It's their choice. Unfortunately many who leave the Arab World, ostensibly for a better life, often take those pathologies with them and try to erect their Sharia World in the West. Pity, really.

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

 

[georgephillip]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Have a nice day... without the blood.

 

[georgephillip]

MJ would likely call that the "Arab mentality" but freedom, justice, equality and tolerance might not be the lifestyle to which they aspire. It's their choice. Unfortunately many who leave the Arab World, ostensibly for a better life, often take those pathologies with them and try to erect their Sharia World in the West. Pity, really.

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

Would you care to share your plan for removing the "Arab threat" in the Middle East?

 

[SAYIT]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Member's post seems to say those Jews have the right to live peacefully and productively within secure borders which they have every right to defend.

 

[irosie91]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Have a nice day... without the blood.

Georgie---you INCESSANTLY repeat your complaint about
six million arabs being "RULED" by JOOOOS In reality
they are not being ruled---AS YOU KNOW-----so why not simply
say what you really want to say "THERE ARE LOTS MORE
MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD SO JOOOOOS SHOULD BE LICKING
THEIR STINKING ASSES"

If the USA had VOTED on the issue of "should black slavery
be legal in the USA" in 1860-----chances are black americans
would still be picking cotton on southern plantations.
Try to live with the fact that even minorities do not want
to lick you stinking ass

 

[SAYIT]

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

Would you care to share your plan for removing the "Arab threat" in the Middle East?

Sure. Have the Arabs end their now 64 year long siege of Israel and ... puff ... their threat to Israel's existence will be gone. What did you think I meant, Princess?

 

[georgephillip]

I thought maybe you were (finally) going to clue the Arabs in to Israel's Eastern border?

 

[georgephillip]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Have a nice day... without the blood.

Georgie---you INCESSANTLY repeat your complaint about
six million arabs being "RULED" by JOOOOS In reality
they are not being ruled---AS YOU KNOW-----so why not simply
say what you really want to say "THERE ARE LOTS MORE
MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD SO JOOOOOS SHOULD BE LICKING
THEIR STINKING ASSES"

If the USA had VOTED on the issue of "should black slavery
be legal in the USA" in 1860-----chances are black americans
would still be picking cotton on southern plantations.
Try to live with the fact that even minorities do not want
to lick you stinking ass

Would rosie's chosen cotton pickers enjoy unlimited bathroom breaks?
Surely even a sad hasbara hack like you has noticed all Arabs living between the Mediterranean and the Jordan live under Israel's civil or military law?

 

[SAYIT]

Quote: Originally Posted by georgephillip
Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Quote: Originally Posted by SAYIT
Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

Quote: Originally Posted by georgephillip
Would you care to share your plan for removing the "Arab threat" in the Middle East?

Quote: Originally Posted by SAYIT
Sure. Have the Arabs end their now 64 year long siege of Israel and ... puff ... their threat to Israel's existence will be gone. What did you think I meant, Princess?

Quote: Originally Posted by georgephillip
I thought maybe you were (finally) going to clue the Arabs in to Israel's Eastern border?

As a reward for ending the Arab siege I'm certain Israel will reveal her plan for a border.

 

[SAYIT]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Have a nice day... without the blood.

Georgie---you INCESSANTLY repeat your complaint about
six million arabs being "RULED" by JOOOOS In reality
they are not being ruled---AS YOU KNOW-----so why not simply
say what you really want to say "THERE ARE LOTS MORE
MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD SO JOOOOOS SHOULD BE LICKING
THEIR STINKING ASSES"

If the USA had VOTED on the issue of "should black slavery
be legal in the USA" in 1860-----chances are black americans
would still be picking cotton on southern plantations.
Try to live with the fact that even minorities do not want
to lick you stinking ass

Would rosie's chosen cotton pickers enjoy unlimited bathroom breaks?
Surely even a sad hasbara hack like you has noticed all Arabs living between the Mediterranean and the Jordan live under Israel's civil or military law?

Really? Israeli law applies in Gaza? PA law does not apply in parts of the WB? I'm shocked, Princess, shocked I tell you!