What Kind of State in Israel?

[docmauser1]

Why should the Palestinians accept a change to 67 borders when they already have borders?

So, what was their state that allegedly had "borders"?

 

[georgephillip]

Learn how to read, Retard:

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read this retard; The Arab Countries rejected the Balfour Declaration

There are Arabs in Israel who enjoy religious freedom

The Arabs rejected the 1948, 1967 Boundries and Israel doesn't have to accept them now. In 1948 Jordan was supposed to allow the Israelis to have access to E. Jerusalem but of course they were denied. That will NEVER happen again; Dirtbag. Israel is not going to go back to Boundries that the ARABS themselves have rejected. Get it? Of course not. You're too stupid

Try to catch up, Pathic Vetch:

In January of 1976 Arab states offered a peace plan at the UNSC calling for "minor and mutual modifications" to the 1967 borders. How did the "chosen people" respond?

"Israel refused to attend the session.

"The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980."

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

If Israel thinks five million Jews are going to rule six million Arabs, it will disappear into the same sewer as White South Africa...making shit like you feel useful for the first time in your pathic punk life.

 

[docmauser1]

In January of 1976 Arab states offered a peace plan at the UNSC calling for "minor and mutual modifications" to the 1967 borders. How did the "chosen people" respond? "Israel refused to attend the session. "The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980." chomsky.info

Yeah, right.

 

[ima]

Rocco, most respectfully, you're a fucking douchesack.

Leave it to the Pro- Palestinian SCUM. The minute they are caught with their lies ( Abbas does NOT want the 67 Borders, the Palestinians are " negotiating", etc, etc,) they CURSE.

If you hate the arabs so much, why did you leave the army? Because they wouldn't let you kill any?

 

[proudveteran06]

Why should the Palestinians accept a change to 67 borders when they already have borders?

The " 1948 Borders" lol that the Arabs never accepted or respected PLUS " Right of Return? " Now... THAI'S FUNNY!

The 1948 borders are still valid. Since when have the Palestinians rejected those borders. We are not talking about 1949 armistice lines that are specifically not borders.

The Borders that the Arabs have rejected? Don't think so ! They could have had their " Palestinian State" in 1948 and did reject them along with the rest of the Arab World. Nice try though !

 

[proudveteran06]

Rocco, most respectfully, you're a fucking douchesack.

Leave it to the Pro- Palestinian SCUM. The minute they are caught with their lies ( Abbas does NOT want the 67 Borders, the Palestinians are " negotiating", etc, etc,) they CURSE.

If you hate the arabs so much, why did you leave the army? Because they wouldn't let you kill any?

I killed enough. It was time for someone else to have a turn.. lol Tell us AGAIN what " compromises" is Abbas making? Oh wait;;; There aren't any.

 

[ima]

Leave it to the Pro- Palestinian SCUM. The minute they are caught with their lies ( Abbas does NOT want the 67 Borders, the Palestinians are " negotiating", etc, etc,) they CURSE.

If you hate the arabs so much, why did you leave the army? Because they wouldn't let you kill any?

I killed enough. It was time for someone else to have a turn.. lol Tell us AGAIN what " compromises" is Abbas making? Oh wait;;; There aren't any.

I agree with you that the arabs haven't made many if any real compromises. But I also know that neither has Israel.
So how many carpet kissers did you whack?

 

[proudveteran06]

If you hate the arabs so much, why did you leave the army? Because they wouldn't let you kill any?

I killed enough. It was time for someone else to have a turn.. lol Tell us AGAIN what " compromises" is Abbas making? Oh wait;;; There aren't any.

I agree with you that the arabs haven't made many if any real compromises. But I also know that neither has Israel.
So how many carpet kissers did you whack?

Another lie. The Arabs haven't made ANY compromises which is what I have been saying all along. The Pro- Palestinian " forgot" about something called " Gaza" apparently. Israel also offered to leave most ( not all ) of the W. Bank . Are they going to leave E. Jerusalem? The answer is " NO" Carpet kissers did I " whack?" I think all the Virgins are being used all over again

 

[georgephillip]

In January of 1976 Arab states offered a peace plan at the UNSC calling for "minor and mutual modifications" to the 1967 borders. How did the "chosen people" respond? "Israel refused to attend the session. "The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980." chomsky.info

Yeah, right.

Exactly, Herr drivel...Just ask The World's Smartest Jew:

"The fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict grinds on without resolution might appear to be rather strange. For many of the world's conflicts, it is difficult even to conjure up a feasible settlement. In this case, it is not only possible, but there is near universal agreement on its basic contours: a two-state settlement along the internationally recognized (pre-June 1967) borders -- with minor and mutual modifications,' to adopt official U.S. terminology before Washington departed from the international community in the mid-1970s.

"The basic principles have been accepted by virtually the entire world, including the Arab states (who go on to call for full normalization of relations), the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran), and relevant non-state actors (including Hamas).

"A settlement along these lines was first proposed at the U.N. Security Council in January 1976 by the major Arab states. Israel refused to attend the session. The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980..."

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

 

[SAYIT]

In January of 1976 Arab states offered a peace plan at the UNSC calling for "minor and mutual modifications" to the 1967 borders. How did the "chosen people" respond? "Israel refused to attend the session. "The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980." chomsky.info

Yeah, right.

Exactly, Herr drivel...Just ask The World's Smartest Jew:

"The fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict grinds on without resolution might appear to be rather strange. For many of the world's conflicts, it is difficult even to conjure up a feasible settlement. In this case, it is not only possible, but there is near universal agreement on its basic contours: a two-state settlement along the internationally recognized (pre-June 1967) borders -- with minor and mutual modifications,' to adopt official U.S. terminology before Washington departed from the international community in the mid-1970s.

"The basic principles have been accepted by virtually the entire world, including the Arab states (who go on to call for full normalization of relations), the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran), and relevant non-state actors (including Hamas).

"A settlement along these lines was first proposed at the U.N. Security Council in January 1976 by the major Arab states. Israel refused to attend the session. The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980..."

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

In fact, I never said any of that camel crap.

 

[SAYIT]

Fuck you, Bitch.

"The United States has slammed Israel for continuing to announce new settlement construction on land claimed by the Palestinians in an unusually rare and blunt criticism of its top Mideast ally.

The State Department accused Israel on Tuesday of engaging in a 'pattern of provocative action' that runs counter to statements from Israeli leaders that they are committed to peace. Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said settlement activity only puts the goal of peace 'further at risk.' She urged both Israel and the Palestinians to halt all provocations and take steps to revive long-stalled peace talks."

U.S. slams Israeli 'pattern of provocation' - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

FUCK YOU PRICK. All these VILE PRO- PALESTINIANS know how to do is CURSE when caught in their own lies. It should be obvious even to SHITHEADS LIKE YOU that Abbas has NO DESIRE for " peace". We saw what happened right after Israel left Gaza. " Stalled Peace Talks?" Get this through your PRO- PALESTINIAN PRICK.... Israel is NOT going to return to the 67 Borders that the Arabs have NEVER recognized or respected . They are NEVER going to give up E.Jerusalem. Share it? Perhaps. Give it up? No; YOU PRICK.

Israel will return to the '67 borders with "minor and mutual modifications" or vanish from the page of time. It's a concept simple enough for even a pathic punk (like you) to grasp.

No reason to waste one's time grasping a concept that will never come to pass now is there, Princess?

 

[SAYIT]

Learn how to read, Retard:

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A line which has always bothered me because it tasked the Zionists with establishing a Jewish homeland without actually establishing a Jewish homeland ... in effect, making an omelete without cracking some eggs. The conflict, tragically, was inevitable. 64 years later we are tasked with helping these people find a way out. Don't bother to ask why.

 

[georgephillip]

Learn how to read, Retard:

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A line which has always bothered me because it tasked the Zionists with establishing a Jewish homeland without actually establishing a Jewish homeland ... in effect, making an omelete without cracking some eggs. The conflict, tragically, was inevitable. 64 years later we are tasked with helping these people find a way out. Don't bother to ask why.

Or perhaps the Zionists were tasked with creating a Jewish homeland and NOT a Jewish State?

 

[SAYIT]

Learn how to read, Retard:

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A line which has always bothered me because it tasked the Zionists with establishing a Jewish homeland without actually establishing a Jewish homeland ... in effect, making an omelete without cracking some eggs. The conflict, tragically, was inevitable. 64 years later we are tasked with helping these people find a way out. Don't bother to ask why.

Or perhaps the Zionists were tasked with creating a Jewish homeland and NOT a Jewish State?

Will you and I quibbling about whether statehood or homeland was intended by Balfour help these people end their conflict or shall we engage in parsing while Rome burns?

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, right.

Exactly, Herr drivel...Just ask The World's Smartest Jew:

"The fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict grinds on without resolution might appear to be rather strange. For many of the world's conflicts, it is difficult even to conjure up a feasible settlement. In this case, it is not only possible, but there is near universal agreement on its basic contours: a two-state settlement along the internationally recognized (pre-June 1967) borders -- with minor and mutual modifications,' to adopt official U.S. terminology before Washington departed from the international community in the mid-1970s.

"The basic principles have been accepted by virtually the entire world, including the Arab states (who go on to call for full normalization of relations), the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran), and relevant non-state actors (including Hamas).

"A settlement along these lines was first proposed at the U.N. Security Council in January 1976 by the major Arab states. Israel refused to attend the session. The U.S. vetoed the resolution, and did so again in 1980..."

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

In fact, I never said any of that camel crap.

Are you sure?
What about this:

"Substantial mythology has been created about the entire record, but the basic facts are clear enough and quite well documented.

"The U.S. and Israel have been acting in tandem to extend and deepen the occupation.

"In 2005, recognizing that it was pointless to subsidize a few thousand Israeli settlers in Gaza, who were appropriating substantial resources and protected by a large part of the Israeli army, the government of Ariel Sharon decided to move them to the much more valuable West Bank and Golan Heights.

"Instead of carrying out the operation straightforwardly, as would have been easy enough, the government decided to stage a 'national trauma,' which virtually duplicated the farce accompanying the withdrawal from the Sinai desert after the Camp David agreements of 1978-79.

"In each case, the withdrawal permitted the cry of 'Never Again,' which meant in practice: we cannot abandon an inch of the Palestinian territories that we want to take in violation of international law.

"This farce played very well in the West, though it was ridiculed by more astute Israeli commentators, among them that country's prominent sociologist the late Baruch Kimmerling."

A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won't): In Washington-Speak, "Palestinian State" Means "Fried Chicken"

 

[georgephillip]

A line which has always bothered me because it tasked the Zionists with establishing a Jewish homeland without actually establishing a Jewish homeland ... in effect, making an omelete without cracking some eggs. The conflict, tragically, was inevitable. 64 years later we are tasked with helping these people find a way out. Don't bother to ask why.

Or perhaps the Zionists were tasked with creating a Jewish homeland and NOT a Jewish State?

Will you and I quibbling about whether statehood or homeland was intended by Balfour help these people end their conflict or shall we engage in parsing while Rome burns?

Hopefully, we can begin by agreeing any flames will likely be nuclear this time?

"The records of discussions that led up to the final text of the Balfour Declaration clarifies some details of its wording.

"The phrase 'national home' was intentionally used instead of 'state' because of opposition to the Zionist program within the British Cabinet. Following discussion of the initial draft the Cabinet Secretary, Mark Sykes, met with the Zionist negotiators to clarify their aims.

"His official report back to the Cabinet categorically stated that the Zionists did not want 'to set up a Jewish Republic or any other form of state in Palestine or in any part of Palestine'"

Possibly because His Majesty's royal assent to a Jewish presence in Palestine had more to do with safeguarding British oil interests than with righting a two thousand year old wrong?

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SAYIT]

Or perhaps the Zionists were tasked with creating a Jewish homeland and NOT a Jewish State?

Will you and I quibbling about whether statehood or homeland was intended by Balfour help these people end their conflict or shall we engage in parsing while Rome burns?

Hopefully, we can begin by agreeing any flames will likely be nuclear this time?

"The records of discussions that led up to the final text of the Balfour Declaration clarifies some details of its wording.

"The phrase 'national home' was intentionally used instead of 'state' because of opposition to the Zionist program within the British Cabinet. Following discussion of the initial draft the Cabinet Secretary, Mark Sykes, met with the Zionist negotiators to clarify their aims.

"His official report back to the Cabinet categorically stated that the Zionists did not want 'to set up a Jewish Republic or any other form of state in Palestine or in any part of Palestine'"

Possibly because His Majesty's royal assent to a Jewish presence in Palestine had more to do with safeguarding British oil interests than with righting a two thousand year old wrong?

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have no reason to believe that the current low-level conflict will escalate into anything nuclear and I'll wait here while you go through your obligatory parsing.

 

[irosie91]

it gets more and more amusing----georgie imagines that the MUSINGS and PERSONAL INCLINATIONS and IMAGINATIVE THOUGHTS of the king of england-----make a difference and "somehow" disqualify the lives of jews in their quest to survive the filth of islamo nazi pigs----like georgie One can spend time trying to imagine why LINCOLN wanted to end black slavery too----maybe he considered that population an important source of TRAIN PORTERS for the northern cities ----maybe

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe Abe needed Blacks in the same way your hero Constantine needed Christians?

 

[georgephillip]

Will you and I quibbling about whether statehood or homeland was intended by Balfour help these people end their conflict or shall we engage in parsing while Rome burns?

Hopefully, we can begin by agreeing any flames will likely be nuclear this time?

"The records of discussions that led up to the final text of the Balfour Declaration clarifies some details of its wording.

"The phrase 'national home' was intentionally used instead of 'state' because of opposition to the Zionist program within the British Cabinet. Following discussion of the initial draft the Cabinet Secretary, Mark Sykes, met with the Zionist negotiators to clarify their aims.

"His official report back to the Cabinet categorically stated that the Zionists did not want 'to set up a Jewish Republic or any other form of state in Palestine or in any part of Palestine'"

Possibly because His Majesty's royal assent to a Jewish presence in Palestine had more to do with safeguarding British oil interests than with righting a two thousand year old wrong?

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have no reason to believe that the current low-level conflict will escalate into anything nuclear and I'll wait here while you go through your obligatory parsing.

"parse (third-person singular simple present parses, present participle parsing, simple past and past participle parsed)
(linguistics) To resolve into its elements, as a sentence, pointing out the several parts of speech, and their relation to each other by government or agreement; to analyze and describe grammatically."

Grammatically speaking, why do you suppose loyal British Zionists lied about wanting "to set up a Jewish Republic or any other form of state in Palestine or in any part of Palestine?"

Possibly they were parsing Palestine...

parse - Wiktionary

I'm sure we both agree Israel lied about being the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East, right?