What Makes Poor People Poor? - Special Segment

[progressive hunter]

Of course not. That is one of the stupidest tax plans ever envisioned

Drop a billionaire from 37 percent to 25 percent and call it even?
Raise the rate to 25 percent for someone making $20,000 a year and call it fair?

First of all it’s a sliding scale secondly with all of the loopholes and deductions he probably pays a lower effective rate than a couple earning 300k jointly.

You think those loopholes won’t be there at 25 percent?

Yes, that is correct. The only deductions will be 25k for individual filings and 50k for joint filings. No exceptions.

Yea....like that is going to happen

The Golden Rule.......He who has the gold makes the rules

As soon as the wealthy get their 25 percent tax rate, they will demand legislation that starts........If you give us this deduction, it will create jobs

Then why didn't they demand those deductions prior to FDR? Because FDR is who raised taxes so high, that deductions were required to avoid a total destruction of the economy.

By the way, do you know who was first to lobby government, and get deductions?

that happened long before FDR

 

[danielpalos]

socialism on a national basis is all they know.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

both parties are socialist and neither cares about the constitution

the right wing doesn't understand our Constitution.

Because they don't care about Guatemala's Constitution.

appealing to ignorance is what the right wing is best at.

ignorance of what???

diversion is a fallacy and appeal to ignorance.

 

[Andylusion]

Why don't you go try that in Beanerland? And I don't mean L.A.

Only the right wing prefers to lose money on public policies and whine about taxes.

You don’t pay taxes. amirite or AMIRITE?

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

 

[progressive hunter]

You think those loopholes won’t be there at 25 percent?

Yes, that is correct. The only deductions will be 25k for individual filings and 50k for joint filings. No exceptions.

Yea....like that is going to happen

The Golden Rule.......He who has the gold makes the rules

As soon as the wealthy get their 25 percent tax rate, they will demand legislation that starts........If you give us this deduction, it will create jobs

It’s the only solution that will make a material difference.

Makes sense to billionaires

Simple math. Give billionaires a significant tax cut, who makes up the difference?

You cut government spending. No one makes up any difference.

the constitution states taxs should be based on running the government and not for redistribution purpose,,,thats socialism

 

[progressive hunter]

Only the right wing prefers to lose money on public policies and whine about taxes.

You don’t pay taxes. amirite or AMIRITE?

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

 

[Andylusion]

First of all it’s a sliding scale secondly with all of the loopholes and deductions he probably pays a lower effective rate than a couple earning 300k jointly.

You think those loopholes won’t be there at 25 percent?

Yes, that is correct. The only deductions will be 25k for individual filings and 50k for joint filings. No exceptions.

Yea....like that is going to happen

The Golden Rule.......He who has the gold makes the rules

As soon as the wealthy get their 25 percent tax rate, they will demand legislation that starts........If you give us this deduction, it will create jobs

Then why didn't they demand those deductions prior to FDR? Because FDR is who raised taxes so high, that deductions were required to avoid a total destruction of the economy.

By the way, do you know who was first to lobby government, and get deductions?

that happened long before FDR

Not on the Federal level it did not. At least not from the history I've read.

The first lobbying efforts were from left-wing universities who, after the high tax rates of FDR, found that none of the rich were giving to the universities anymore. So they lobbied for a tax deduction for charitable donations to educational institutions.

 

[rightwinger]

You think those loopholes won’t be there at 25 percent?

Yes, that is correct. The only deductions will be 25k for individual filings and 50k for joint filings. No exceptions.

Yea....like that is going to happen

The Golden Rule.......He who has the gold makes the rules

As soon as the wealthy get their 25 percent tax rate, they will demand legislation that starts........If you give us this deduction, it will create jobs

It’s the only solution that will make a material difference.

Makes sense to billionaires

Simple math. Give billionaires a significant tax cut, who makes up the difference?

Actually it doesn’t. They fear the loss of the their loopholes and deductions. It makes great sense to poor people who would only pay taxes above the poverty threshold. The government fears this and so do government lackies.

What happened to their loopholes when we slashed their tax rate last year?

Didn’t touch them

 

[Andylusion]

You don’t pay taxes. amirite or AMIRITE?

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

 

[progressive hunter]

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

 

[Andylusion]

Yes, that is correct. The only deductions will be 25k for individual filings and 50k for joint filings. No exceptions.

Yea....like that is going to happen

The Golden Rule.......He who has the gold makes the rules

As soon as the wealthy get their 25 percent tax rate, they will demand legislation that starts........If you give us this deduction, it will create jobs

It’s the only solution that will make a material difference.

Makes sense to billionaires

Simple math. Give billionaires a significant tax cut, who makes up the difference?

Actually it doesn’t. They fear the loss of the their loopholes and deductions. It makes great sense to poor people who would only pay taxes above the poverty threshold. The government fears this and so do government lackies.

What happened to their loopholes when we slashed their tax rate last year?

Didn’t touch them

I'm all in favor of having a flat tax, with zero deductions.

Until then, we have to fight for every reduction in wasteful taxes we can.

I would love to have our entire national tax system, be reduced to a post card, with "income" X "tax rate" = "Tax due".
No deductions, no special interest.

 

[Andylusion]

So since you're illegal, that's none.

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

 

[progressive hunter]

even illegals are required to pay taxs

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

so why are you complaining???

and I've ran my business for decades on cash only

 

[Andylusion]

When I was working at a parts store, we had a group of illegals running a backyard mechanics shop. They only operated in cash, never gave their names or addresses.

I can promise you, they were not paying income or payroll taxes. Nor were they charging sales tax to their customers.

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

so why are you complaining???

and I've ran my business for decades on cash only

I am not complaining. I am stating what happened.

People claim that illegals still have to pay tax. BS. They don't.

If you have a backyard mechanic shop, that is operating off the books, in an all cash system.... no, they are not paying taxes.

That is a statement of fact. Not a complaint. Just a fact.

 

[progressive hunter]

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

so why are you complaining???

and I've ran my business for decades on cash only

I am not complaining. I am stating what happened.

People claim that illegals still have to pay tax. BS. They don't.

If you have a backyard mechanic shop, that is operating off the books, in an all cash system.... no, they are not paying taxes.

That is a statement of fact. Not a complaint. Just a fact.

they are required to,,,and anyday that the feds have less money is a good day since it means the people keep it for heir own communities and is not wasted for useless bullsht

 

[Taz]

maybe thats because hey arent socialist dupes

socialism on a national basis is all they know.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

both parties are socialist and neither cares about the constitution

the right wing doesn't understand our Constitution.

no more than the left does,,both twist it to their advantage

they literally don't understand the language of our Constitution.

Try translating it from whatever donkey language is used in Guatemala.

 

[Taz]

Why don't you go try that in Beanerland? And I don't mean L.A.

Only the right wing prefers to lose money on public policies and whine about taxes.

You don’t pay taxes. amirite or AMIRITE?

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

i must be more legal than you, I am American and have a better argument at lower cost.

You can barely speak English, let alone be better than anyone already here.

 

[Andylusion]

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

so why are you complaining???

and I've ran my business for decades on cash only

I am not complaining. I am stating what happened.

People claim that illegals still have to pay tax. BS. They don't.

If you have a backyard mechanic shop, that is operating off the books, in an all cash system.... no, they are not paying taxes.

That is a statement of fact. Not a complaint. Just a fact.

they are required to,,,and anyday that the feds have less money is a good day since it means the people keep it for heir own communities and is not wasted for useless bullsht

Being required to pay, doesn't mean you pay. Illegals avoid taxes constantly.

Yeah, I'm in favor of the feds having less of our money. I get that. But not at expense of law and order. You should pay your taxes, because that's what a law abiding citizen should do. Yeah, I get that government is a wasteful whore, screwing over the American people, in favor of themselves.

That's why you vote for people who say they will dismantle social security and medicare and the welfare system.

But you do not violate the law.

 

[danielpalos]

did you report them???

How would we report them? While we all knew what was going on, we have no proof or evidence to present to police.

you report it to the IRS not the police,

Report what to the IRS. What are you talking about?

"A man bought stuff with cash", is not grounds for anything.

so why are you complaining???

and I've ran my business for decades on cash only

I am not complaining. I am stating what happened.

People claim that illegals still have to pay tax. BS. They don't.

If you have a backyard mechanic shop, that is operating off the books, in an all cash system.... no, they are not paying taxes.

That is a statement of fact. Not a complaint. Just a fact.

most are not self-employed.

 

[danielpalos]

Only the right wing prefers to lose money on public policies and whine about taxes.

You don’t pay taxes. amirite or AMIRITE?

I only pay the taxes i am legally obligated to pay.

So since you're illegal, that's none.

i must be more legal than you, I am American and have a better argument at lower cost.

You can barely speak English, let alone be better than anyone already here.

your argument is too inferior. go to the rear and practice some more.

 

[Fugazi]

A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is an independent thinking person.
The Democrats need victims.
Some people love being victims because it releases them from any personal responsibility.

I think you had a typo, I fixed it for you.

A Politician's worst nightmare is an independent thinking person.
Politicians need victims.
Some people love being victims because it releases them from any personal responsibility.