JoeB131
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Apples and Oranges.
Japan and the US are completely different cultural systems. You generally don't see high murder rates from anything. Knives, Blunt Objects, anything.
They simply don't kill each other in Japan. It's an extremely homogenous society.
Again, you look around, and see Norway, with the 11th highest gun ownership in the world, and 8th lowest murder rate in the world.
How do you explain that?
Homogenous society with a strong moral code. Just like Japan. Nothing to do with guns, or gun control.
Have you watched Japanese movies? They are vastly more violent than ours.
And if you want to talk about Norway, NOrway has restrictive gun ownership laws and there is no "right" to own a gun.
Second, when you say someone was crazy, you say that retrospectively. We know he's crazy now, but that doesn't mean anyone knew before hand.
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The idea that "they should know!" is a statement by someone who has never dealt with these people. You don't know. They can talk, act, respond completely rationally. Go to the mental health facilities. They'll tell you. These people can be completely fine for months on end, and then something freaks them out, and they go loony.
except that we find out that everyone in that person's life said things like, "Yeah, he was loony" and "Geezus, they let that guy buy a gun?"
Where you people get the idea that the FBI doing a back ground check, or the cashier at the gun should should magically know 'this guy is nutz'. You are wrong.
And honestly, we've tried it your way. We've tried banning guns in Aussie land, and the UK. What did that get us? Higher crime rates, higher murder rates, black market guns all over the place.
Did you know that right now, it is cheaper to get a semi-auto pistol in Australia, than in the US? You can buy a black market gun for as little as $100. The cheapest retail fire arm, last I checked was $200.
And you think you can ban guns, and lower crime? It's not happening. Ban alcohol again, and see how well that works.
actually Australia and the UK are what I'd consider successes. They have very low murder rates, which dropped after guns were banned. YOu really need to stop reading National Rampage Association Propaganda.