What the science says

[LaDexter]

IR is a very small part of the spectrum.

Given the shape of atoms and molecules, different atoms and molecules absorb different wavelengths. CO2 has the hots for IR, but just IR, and the sun is a lot more than just IR, meaning NO there is no magic gas that would warm everything while being well under 1 percent of an atmosphere...

Greenhouse Gas = BULLSHIT

 

[jc456]

yep what?

I think he's trying to claim that CO2 doesn't slow the escape of infrared radiation because it's denser than air.
Or maybe it doesn't radiate toward the ground because it's denser than air.

Or some other idiocy.

or heavier than air and that gravity would come into play since heavy objects have a tendency to fall to the ground. How else do plants photosynthesize the CO2 if it were in the atmosphere miles up? Or the oceans absorb CO2?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas....because gravity?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing. A greenhouse is not one because of CO2 gases. It is a greenhouse because of loss of conduction. wow!!!

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing.

Does CO2 absorb IR?

sure it does, but does it heat anything? Been my question to you for over months now and you still haven't answered it. Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air? Is CO2 in the oceans? Seems it is since people are complaining about ph levels. So is CO2 even in the atmosphere? Can you prove that? Hey Tod, look up conduction. Perhaps you could move into what truly warms the planet after the sunlight hits the surface.

 

[Crick]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

 

[jc456]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

ten times yours. you should learn how to use the internet outside parroting leftist documents.

 

[jc456]

IR is a very small part of the spectrum.

Given the shape of atoms and molecules, different atoms and molecules absorb different wavelengths. CO2 has the hots for IR, but just IR, and the sun is a lot more than just IR, meaning NO there is no magic gas that would warm everything while being well under 1 percent of an atmosphere...

Greenhouse Gas = BULLSHIT

they think it's worth 33C of heat.

 

[LaDexter]

That's why the highly correlated satellite and balloon data was fudged = the truth that increased CO2 in the atmosphere did NOT warm anything is FATAL to the FRAUD, and the FRAUD bilking the US taxpayer...

 

[LaDexter]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

If you have two and only two measures of the same thing, and those two measures produce highly correlated data, why would there be a need to "correct" that data, or even challenge it???

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think he's trying to claim that CO2 doesn't slow the escape of infrared radiation because it's denser than air.
Or maybe it doesn't radiate toward the ground because it's denser than air.

Or some other idiocy.

or heavier than air and that gravity would come into play since heavy objects have a tendency to fall to the ground. How else do plants photosynthesize the CO2 if it were in the atmosphere miles up? Or the oceans absorb CO2?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas....because gravity?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing. A greenhouse is not one because of CO2 gases. It is a greenhouse because of loss of conduction. wow!!!

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing.

Does CO2 absorb IR?

sure it does, but does it heat anything? Been my question to you for over months now and you still haven't answered it. Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air? Is CO2 in the oceans? Seems it is since people are complaining about ph levels. So is CO2 even in the atmosphere? Can you prove that? Hey Tod, look up conduction. Perhaps you could move into what truly warms the planet after the sunlight hits the surface.

sure it does, but does it heat anything?

Yes. IR emitted by CO2 heats whatever absorbs the IR.

Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air?

Yes.

Is CO2 in the oceans?

Yes.

So is CO2 even in the atmosphere?

Yes.

Can you prove that?

Yes.

Hey Tod, look up conduction.

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

 

[jc456]

or heavier than air and that gravity would come into play since heavy objects have a tendency to fall to the ground. How else do plants photosynthesize the CO2 if it were in the atmosphere miles up? Or the oceans absorb CO2?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas....because gravity?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing. A greenhouse is not one because of CO2 gases. It is a greenhouse because of loss of conduction. wow!!!

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing.

Does CO2 absorb IR?

sure it does, but does it heat anything? Been my question to you for over months now and you still haven't answered it. Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air? Is CO2 in the oceans? Seems it is since people are complaining about ph levels. So is CO2 even in the atmosphere? Can you prove that? Hey Tod, look up conduction. Perhaps you could move into what truly warms the planet after the sunlight hits the surface.

sure it does, but does it heat anything?

Yes. IR emitted by CO2 heats whatever absorbs the IR.

Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air?

Yes.

Is CO2 in the oceans?

Yes.

So is CO2 even in the atmosphere?

Yes.

Can you prove that?

Yes.

Hey Tod, look up conduction.

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

Now that is the true DERP!!!

Look it up bubba. gawd you're one lazy ass.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas....because gravity?

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing. A greenhouse is not one because of CO2 gases. It is a greenhouse because of loss of conduction. wow!!!

CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas cause there is no such a thing.

Does CO2 absorb IR?

sure it does, but does it heat anything? Been my question to you for over months now and you still haven't answered it. Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air? Is CO2 in the oceans? Seems it is since people are complaining about ph levels. So is CO2 even in the atmosphere? Can you prove that? Hey Tod, look up conduction. Perhaps you could move into what truly warms the planet after the sunlight hits the surface.

sure it does, but does it heat anything?

Yes. IR emitted by CO2 heats whatever absorbs the IR.

Is CO2 even in the atmosphere since it is heavier than air?

Yes.

Is CO2 in the oceans?

Yes.

So is CO2 even in the atmosphere?

Yes.

Can you prove that?

Yes.

Hey Tod, look up conduction.

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

Now that is the true DERP!!!

Look it up bubba. gawd you're one lazy ass.

Greenhouses heat up because of reduced conduction? DERP!

Now that is the true DERP!!!

You are truly a moron.

 

[Crick]

That's why the highly correlated satellite and balloon data was fudged = the truth that increased CO2 in the atmosphere did NOT warm anything is FATAL to the FRAUD, and the FRAUD bilking the US taxpayer...

What increased taxes do you pay?

 

[Crick]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

If you have two and only two measures of the same thing, and those two measures produce highly correlated data, why would there be a need to "correct" that data, or even challenge it???

When are we going to actually SEE this "highly correlated balloon and satellite data"? Do you have an article that talks about it? Do you know where it actually is? Do you know who recorded it? Whose balloons? Whose satellites? Anything beyond "highly correlated data"? You're starting to sound like Donald Trump.

Have you considered the difference between area coverage from a balloon and that from a satellite? Matching the coverage of a satellite would take tens of thousands of balloon launches daily. It that what you've got? And satellite microwave data has shown repeatedly to require significant calibration adjustments over time. Was that done to your data? Didn't you say your data were raw?

Eh?

 

[Old Rocks]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

ten times yours. you should learn how to use the internet outside parroting leftist documents.

Ah yes, those goddamned leftist documents called Physics texts that they have been publishing for a hundred years or so, with information concerning the absorption spectra of various gases. jc, between you, LaDumbkopf, and Silly Billy, we get free humor every day.

 

[jc456]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

ten times yours. you should learn how to use the internet outside parroting leftist documents.

Ah yes, those goddamned leftist documents called Physics texts that they have been publishing for a hundred years or so, with information concerning the absorption spectra of various gases. jc, between you, LaDumbkopf, and Silly Billy, we get free humor every day.

We enjoy sharing actual facts. And like you, I lose a nut a day laughing at your stupid.

 

[SSDD]

Wow, that's some hard-assed science there, that was.

ten times yours. you should learn how to use the internet outside parroting leftist documents.

Ah yes, those goddamned leftist documents called Physics texts that they have been publishing for a hundred years or so, with information concerning the absorption spectra of various gases. jc, between you, LaDumbkopf, and Silly Billy, we get free humor every day.

What they haven't been publishing is that absorption and emission equals warming...that is your fantasy...not that of physics.

 

[Crick]

Really? You don't think peer reviewed descriptions of the greenhouse effect exist?

 

[Crick]

Like this:

A concise description of the greenhouse effect is given in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report, "What is the Greenhouse Effect?" FAQ 1.3 - AR4 WGI Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science, IIPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Chapter 1, page 115: "To balance the absorbed incoming [solar] energy, the Earth must, on average, radiate the same amount of energy back to space. Because the Earth is much colder than the Sun, it radiates at much longer wavelengths, primarily in the infrared part of the spectrum (see Figure 1). Much of this thermal radiation emitted by the land and ocean is absorbed by the atmosphere, including clouds, and reradiated back to Earth. This is called the greenhouse effect."

Stephen H. Schneider, in Geosphere-biosphere Interactions and Climate, Lennart O. Bengtsson and Claus U. Hammer, eds., Cambridge University Press, 2001, ISBN 0-521-78238-4, pp. 90-91.

E. Claussen, V. A. Cochran, and D. P. Davis, Climate Change: Science, Strategies, & Solutions, University of Michigan, 2001. p. 373.

A. Allaby and M. Allaby, A Dictionary of Earth Sciences, Oxford University Press, 1999, ISBN 0-19-280079-5, p. 244.

Vaclav Smil (2003). The Earth's Biosphere: Evolution, Dynamics, and Change. MIT Press. p. 107. ISBN 978-0-262-69298-4.

IPCC AR4 WG1 (2007), Solomon, S.; Qin, D.; Manning, M.; Chen, Z.; Marquis, M.; Averyt, K.B.; Tignor, M.; Miller, H.L., eds., Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-0-521-88009-1 (pb: 978-0-521-70596-7)

Schroeder, Daniel V. (2000). An introduction to thermal physics. San Francisco, California: Addison-Wesley. pp. 305–7. ISBN 0-321-27779-1. ... this mechanism is called the greenhouse effect, even though most greenhouses depend primarily on a different mechanism (namely, limiting convective cooling).

And so forth

Material above from the References section of Wikipedia's article on "The Greenhouse Effect"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Like this:

A concise description of the greenhouse effect is given in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report, "What is the Greenhouse Effect?" FAQ 1.3 - AR4 WGI Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science, IIPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Chapter 1, page 115: "To balance the absorbed incoming [solar] energy, the Earth must, on average, radiate the same amount of energy back to space. Because the Earth is much colder than the Sun, it radiates at much longer wavelengths, primarily in the infrared part of the spectrum (see Figure 1). Much of this thermal radiation emitted by the land and ocean is absorbed by the atmosphere, including clouds, and reradiated back to Earth. This is called the greenhouse effect."

Stephen H. Schneider, in Geosphere-biosphere Interactions and Climate, Lennart O. Bengtsson and Claus U. Hammer, eds., Cambridge University Press, 2001, ISBN 0-521-78238-4, pp. 90-91.

E. Claussen, V. A. Cochran, and D. P. Davis, Climate Change: Science, Strategies, & Solutions, University of Michigan, 2001. p. 373.

A. Allaby and M. Allaby, A Dictionary of Earth Sciences, Oxford University Press, 1999, ISBN 0-19-280079-5, p. 244.

Vaclav Smil (2003). The Earth's Biosphere: Evolution, Dynamics, and Change. MIT Press. p. 107. ISBN 978-0-262-69298-4.

IPCC AR4 WG1 (2007), Solomon, S.; Qin, D.; Manning, M.; Chen, Z.; Marquis, M.; Averyt, K.B.; Tignor, M.; Miller, H.L., eds., Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-0-521-88009-1 (pb: 978-0-521-70596-7)

Schroeder, Daniel V. (2000). An introduction to thermal physics. San Francisco, California: Addison-Wesley. pp. 305–7. ISBN 0-321-27779-1. ... this mechanism is called the greenhouse effect, even though most greenhouses depend primarily on a different mechanism (namely, limiting convective cooling).

And so forth

Material above from the References section of Wikipedia's article on "The Greenhouse Effect"

Clear enough......even for idiots like jc and ssdd.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

cafeteria style science. Some of the very same people who are wowed! when a Hubble photo comes back to Earth, are the same people saying NASA is not to be believed

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

cafeteria style science. Some of the very same people who are wowed! when a Hubble photo comes back to Earth, are the same people saying NASA is not to be believed

The Hubble photo isn't influenced by politics.
The photo doesn't want us to spend $10 trillion on windmills and carbon taxes.