What will Obama Do About Iraq Now?

[Katzndogz]

obama has created a terrible situation that will cause him grief no matter what he does. If he sends troops into Iraq and more Americans die the democrats are done. If he does nothing he will be blamed for creating this catastrophe and walking away.

There is no way out. Not even a bad way.

 

[rightwinger]

How can anyone discuss Iraq without bringing up Obama?

If we had listened to Obama we never would have invaded Iraq in the first place

If Obama had listened to Bush he would have left troops and we wouldnt be in this mess.
If Churchill hadnt insisted on the borders the way they are we wouldnt have this problem. If King Idris wasnt a fuck up Saddam would never have gotten power.
You can play this all day long.
The fact is Obama was presdient when he rushed headlong out of Iraq because polls told him that's what people wanted. And Obama is president now when the iraq situation is falling apart because of his decisions.
So what is Obama going to do to fix Obama's fuck up?

They will treat us as liberators

How could Bush not realize he was creating a Shiite religious state? Democracy? A Democracy of Shiite ideologues just like Iran.

Bush Sr. knew better than to invade Iraq. He knew he could never hold the peace. But baby Bush had to one up his daddy and invade a country that was no threat outside its border

Blatant stupidity

 

[paulitician]

obama has created a terrible situation that will cause him grief no matter what he does. If he sends troops into Iraq and more Americans die the democrats are done. If he does nothing he will be blamed for creating this catastrophe and walking away.

There is no way out. Not even a bad way.

He shouldn't have funded & armed the very questionable Rebels in Syria. He was warned, but he didn't listen. Now these groups are wreaking havoc all across the region. And the worst thing is, they're doing it with American Tax Dollars and weapons. It's a huge blunder on Obama's part. He gets no free pass on this one.

 

[Geaux4it]

I predict that regardless of what he does....the OP will not agree.

Whataremychances?

 

[Geaux4it]

Are these the same Terrorists our Government has been funding & arming in Syria? Wouldn't surprise me. Man, what a mess.

Yes

-Geaux

 

[paulitician]

Are these the same Terrorists our Government has been funding & arming in Syria? Wouldn't surprise me. Man, what a mess.

Yes

-Geaux

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

 

[Geaux4it]

Are these the same Terrorists our Government has been funding & arming in Syria? Wouldn't surprise me. Man, what a mess.

Yes

-Geaux

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

 

[rightwinger]

Yes

-Geaux

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

Stay the fuck out of Iraq

I said it to Bush and I will say it to Obama

 

[paulitician]

Yes

-Geaux

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

Yeah it's a real mess. Putin warned him, but he wouldn't listen. He became so hell-bent on getting rid of Assad. I don't get it. He armed some very nasty Al Qaeda-linked groups in Syria. And now they're in Iraq wreaking havoc there as well. It's a very sad blunder on his part. He definitely shouldn't get a free pass on this one.

 

[jon_berzerk]

ISIS Terror Leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Was Released By Obama from Camp Bucca in 2009

The fall of the Iraqi city of Mosul to the al-Qaeda offshoot ISIS has shown the power of its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - a former US detainee

The FBI “most wanted” mugshot shows a tough, swarthy figure, his hair in a jailbird crew-cut. The $10 million price on his head, meanwhile, suggests that whoever released him from US custody four years ago may now be regretting it.
Taken during his years as a detainee at the US-run Camp Bucca in southern Iraq, this is the only known photograph of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the new leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq and Syria. But while he may lack the photogenic qualities of his hero, Osama bin Laden, he is fast becoming the new poster-boy for the global jihadist movement.
Well-organised and utterly ruthless, the ex-preacher is the driving force behind al-Qaeda’s resurgence throughout Syria and Iraq, putting it at the forefront of the war to topple President Bashar al-Assad and starting a fresh campaign of mayhem against the Western-backed government in Baghdad.
On Tuesday, his forces achieved their biggest coup in Iraq to date, seizing control of government buildings in Mosul, the country's third biggest city. Coming on top of similar operations in January that planted the black jihadi flag in the towns of Fallujah and Ramadi, it gives al-Qaeda control of large swathes of the north and west of the country, and poses the biggest security crisis since the US pull-out two years ago

Iraq crisis: the jihadist behind the takeover of Mosul - and how America let him go - Telegraph

 

[Geaux4it]

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

Yeah it's a real mess. Putin warned him, but he wouldn't listen. He became so hell-bent on getting rid of Assad. I don't get it. He armed some very nasty Al Qaeda-linked groups in Syria. And now they're in Iraq wreaking havoc there as well. It's a very sad blunder on his part. He definitely shouldn't get a free pass on this one.

Agree- which is why it wasn't surprising when he let the 5 Terrorist loose so they could scoot on over to Syria and arm up.

-Geaux

 

[Bfgrn]

No, that's the natural expression of the liberal ethos.

Want to start a business? Fuck em.
Want to buy a gun? Fuck em
Want to pray in school? Fuck em
Want to practice a religion? Fuck em
Want to hire more than 50 workers? Fuck em
Want to express unpopular thoughs? Fuck em
Want to campaign on specific issues? Fuck em.

Fuck em. It's the Democratic way.

Want to start a war without any consideration of the long term viability of the nation that is left?
Fuck em

It was a massive blunder to get involved in Iraq. It cost us 5000 lives, 100,000 innocent Iraqis and trillions of dollars that could have been better spent

Actually we had a plan. Obama fucked it up.
How many lives and how much money did 9/11 cost? How many would several cost?

A PLAN???

Rumsfeld Forbade Planning For Postwar Iraq, General Says

Long before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a postwar Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said.

Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid told the Newport News Daily Press in an interview published yesterday that Rumsfeld had said "he would fire the next person" who talked about the need for a postwar plan.

Scheid was a colonel with the U.S. Central Command, the unit that oversees military operations in the Middle East, in late 2001 when Rumsfeld "told us to get ready for Iraq."

"The secretary of defense continued to push on us . . . that everything we write in our plan has to be the idea that we are going to go in, we're going to take out the regime, and then we're going to leave," Scheid said. "We won't stay."

Planners continued to try "to write what was called Phase 4" -- plans that covered post-invasion operations such as security, stability and reconstruction, said Scheid, who is retiring in about three weeks, but "I remember the secretary of defense saying that he would fire the next person that said that."

Washington Post

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sadly, that does appear to be the case. Obama should have listened to Putin on Syria. He warned him about funding Rebel groups there. Assad is the safer bet. Putin was right.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

Stay the fuck out of Iraq

I said it to Bush and I will say it to Obama

So you think O has a choice since he sent supplies to the terrorists that are now running rampant in iraq? Now, they are using the weapons that he sent over to murder iraq citizens?

 

[Spoonman]

Now what Obama? Are you going to let Baghdad fall in Taliban/Sunni hands? Make an alliance with Syria for one stronghold in the middle East?

-Geaux

we shouldn't have deposed saddam in the first place. this is what we said ten years ago.

he was a nasty SOB but a nasty SOB that kept the fundie loons at bay.

enjoy your handiwork. i'm sure the PNAC is proud

but we should have deposed the leaders of Egypt, Libya and Syria?

 

[Spoonman]

If we had listened to Obama we never would have invaded Iraq in the first place

If Obama had listened to Bush he would have left troops and we wouldnt be in this mess.
If Churchill hadnt insisted on the borders the way they are we wouldnt have this problem. If King Idris wasnt a fuck up Saddam would never have gotten power.
You can play this all day long.
The fact is Obama was presdient when he rushed headlong out of Iraq because polls told him that's what people wanted. And Obama is president now when the iraq situation is falling apart because of his decisions.
So what is Obama going to do to fix Obama's fuck up?

They will treat us as liberators

How could Bush not realize he was creating a Shiite religious state? Democracy? A Democracy of Shiite ideologues just like Iran.

Bush Sr. knew better than to invade Iraq. He knew he could never hold the peace. But baby Bush had to one up his daddy and invade a country that was no threat outside its border

Blatant stupidity

yea, we've sure stabilized Egypt, Libya and Syria. you reek of hypocrisy

 

[rightwinger]

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action

As we reported yesterday, Iraq, realizing it has neither the capacity nor the willingness to engage Al Qaeda's ISIS "spin off" did what every other oil-rich regime in such a situation does: asked Obama for "kinetic support." Moments ago Obama gave his response:

OBAMA SAYS "I DON'T RULE OUT ANYTHING" WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING IRAQ DEAL WITH INSURGENTS

OBAMA SAYS US HAS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE JIHADISTS DON'T GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN IRAQ
OBAMA SAYS THERE WILL BE SHORT-TERM IMMEDIATE ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE MILITARILY IN IRAQ, US OFFICIALS LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS

And here is why, as we predicted yesterday when faced with not only but two brand new scandals, the VA farce and the Berghdal "extraction" fiasco, the most likely outcome is war:

So the US is about to unleash hell against the same Al Qaeda extremists it was arming across the border in Syria? Score one more for US foreign policy. Meanwhile, the one person who benefits the most from rising crude prices, that would be Putin for those who still don't get it, is laughing all the way to the bank.

Obama Responds To Iraq Request For "Kinetic Support", Says Ready To Take Military Action | Zero Hedge

Stay the fuck out of Iraq

I said it to Bush and I will say it to Obama

So you think O has a choice since he sent supplies to the terrorists that are now running rampant in iraq? Now, they are using the weapons that he sent over to murder iraq citizens?

Stay the fuck out of Iraq

It applied in 1991
It applied in 2003
It applies today

 

[Geaux4it]

I predict a few JSOW anti-personnel drops mixed in with a conga-line of shock and awe T-Hawks. For reals... Then the predator drones can pop off a few heads like turtles.

Good times

-Geaux

 

[paulitician]

Looks like Iran and Al Qaeda are the big winners in this. The American People certainly aren't. Still want this aggressive Foreign Interventionism, America? Maybe it's time to reconsider support.

 

[The Rabbi]

obama has created a terrible situation that will cause him grief no matter what he does. If he sends troops into Iraq and more Americans die the democrats are done. If he does nothing he will be blamed for creating this catastrophe and walking away.

There is no way out. Not even a bad way.

It's a shit sandwich no matter what. No question.
BUt a real leader takes the lumps, figures out the best way to deal with it, and trusts the electorate will have a short memory and things will turn out right.
Obama is incapable of any thought process resembling that. He is motivated entirely by politics, as the makeup of the National Security Council attests.
No, he will go through exactly what he did in Syria: posturing, threatening, trying to kick it off to someone else like the UN, and then lamely waving his hands around and claiming he didnt say what he just said 2 weeks previously.
He is a disgrace. Our foreign policy is a sad joke.

 

[1776]

Iraq wouldn't be in this mess if we kept some combat troops there like we have done since the 1940s with Japan and Germany....oh wait, you idiots don't know that.

Obama squandered everything we did in Iraq but not until he claimed "he did it and made Iraq a SUCCESS." Joe Biden claimed "Iraq was their greatest success" at the time.

This is what happens when idiots are in charge and don't understand one needs to keep troops in certain parts of the world to prevent evil people from rising up and taking power.