What would a socialist America look like?

And the additional cost will make investing in automation more cost effective and efficient. And so the position vanishes completely.
no, it doesn't. higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand.

It still increases the cost of payroll. Automation takes a large investment and has much lower costs in the long run.
employment is at will.

Jeez dude, are you that ignorant? I have not argued once that employment is not at will. But there are consequences to quitting a job. Just as there are consequences to stealing or breaking whatever rule you broke to be fired.

And there is no federal doctrine or state law that says someone with assets to support themselves should be given support from tax dollars.

Please answer my question. What is wrong with a means test prior to receiving tax dollars to support you?
i am not the one appealing to ignorance of the law or being frivolous at the expense of the Poor.

And there is no federal doctrine or state law that says someone with assets to support themselves should be given support from tax dollars.

Please answer my question. What is wrong with a means test prior to receiving tax dollars to support you?
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
 
The concept and doctrine is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of the law applies to any Government policy.

Means testing is expensive and unnecessary if someone is merely unemployed.

Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.
 
Expensive? How expensive is it to have an applicant fill out a form?

And welfare, which is what you want UC to become, is based on need. Not employment status. Showing you need it is a fundamental part.
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
 
lol. over simplification only means you don't understand the process or the concepts.

and; no, i don't want to duplicate expensive government services.

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing.

First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.
 
First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
 
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.
 
Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.
 
First you claim I am over simplifying, and then you say "Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is the capital concept we are discussing"?? Too funny.

No, I am not over simplifying anything. If you apply for welfare you fill out a form stating your financial assets. That is it. They do not check them unless there is some problem or a report that the applicant lied. The most that will typically happen is that you will be asked to provide a bank statement.

UC is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who, through no fault of their own, lose their job. It is designed to keep them afloat until they find another job. YOu have stated that you do not want to work and expect to be compensated or supported anyway. That is welfare, not unemployment compensation. Especially if you quit or are fired for cause.
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

Never once, in the dozen or so threads we have talked about this in, have I said that employment was not at the will of either party. Not one single time. And yet, you keep pronouncing it as if it were a point of an argument or like it answers some question.
 
How easy is it to get job or job hop to a better job with welfare?

Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

Never once, in the dozen or so threads we have talked about this in, have I said that employment was not at the will of either party. Not one single time. And yet, you keep pronouncing it as if it were a point of an argument or like it answers some question.

That is the same BS he repeats over and over to me and several others and thinks that is a revelation, it can be part of an argument however he has nothing to that his idea is remotely sustainable and has yet to provide a single fact. He is either a very bad foreign bot or a clueless moron that that has never held a job for more than a couple of months and was fired for his lack of work habits.
 
Actually easier than getting a job while collecting unemloyment, especially if you were fired for cause.

People on welfare have access to more training and education programs.

And as for job hopping to a better job......if you have a job you don't qualify for Unemployment Compensation anyway.
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

Never once, in the dozen or so threads we have talked about this in, have I said that employment was not at the will of either party. Not one single time. And yet, you keep pronouncing it as if it were a point of an argument or like it answers some question.

That is the same BS he repeats over and over to me and several others and thinks that is a revelation, it can be part of an argument however he has nothing to that his idea is remotely sustainable and has yet to provide a single fact. He is either a very bad foreign bot or a clueless moron that that has never held a job for more than a couple of months and was fired for his lack of work habits.

His profile says he is 57 years old. I'd be willing to bet he has never seen his 18th birthday.
 
Labor cannot be unqualified for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in any at-will employment State.

Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.
why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.
 
No, they should not be able to quit and draw a check. Luckily, far more people agree with me than with you. The overwhelming majority of people in this country work full time to support themselves. And you want to take their tax dollars to support people who just decide not to work? No.

Also, I didn't say anything in my last post about drawing money for being unemployed. I only said you cannot draw UC if you have a job. Which would preclude the "...or job hop to a better job...".

Do try to keep up with what I actually say and address only that.
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.
why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.

Why do you pretend you are addressing the discussion. We already know you are not.
 
The law is employment at the will of either party. There are no exceptions.

You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.
why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.

Why do you pretend you are addressing the discussion. We already know you are not.
y'all have nothing but fallacy. i only pay attention to the right wing in political arguments.
 
You really are a dense little twit.
anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.
why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.

Why do you pretend you are addressing the discussion. We already know you are not.
y'all have nothing but fallacy. i only pay attention to the right wing in political arguments.

Nonsense. You only pay attention to your own fantasies of getting a check without having to work and having girls make appointments for full body massages with happy endings.
 

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