What's the difference between Communism and Obama Democrats??

[The2ndAmendment]

Communism is probably the difference.

That ever cross your mind?

Can you explain what communists believe that Democrats don't believe?

Again, communism.

How is this hard for you to understand? 95% of democrats at least are not going to be communist in any way shape or form.

Because most people, from both parties, love liberty in their hearts, they are being fooled to believe that their "party leaders" share their values.

 

[Cowman]

Can you explain what communists believe that Democrats don't believe?

Again, communism.

How is this hard for you to understand? 95% of democrats at least are not going to be communist in any way shape or form.

Because most people, from both parties, love liberty in their hearts, they are being fooled to believe that their "party leaders" share their values.

Their party leaders are not fucking communists either.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE STUCK IN THE GOD DAMN 1950'S WHEN COMMUNISM ALSO WASN'T A BIG PROBLEM WITHIN THE STATES.

We're no more communists than you are child molesters. The two are in no way comparable, I'm trying to show how stupid you all sound.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Can you explain what communists believe that Democrats don't believe?

Again, communism.

How is this hard for you to understand? 95% of democrats at least are not going to be communist in any way shape or form.

Because most people, from both parties, love liberty in their hearts, they are being fooled to believe that their "party leaders" share their values.

2nd can't even define communism much less give clear, objective examples that such is happening in the USA.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Again, communism.

How is this hard for you to understand? 95% of democrats at least are not going to be communist in any way shape or form.

Because most people, from both parties, love liberty in their hearts, they are being fooled to believe that their "party leaders" share their values.

2nd can't even define communism much less give clear, objective examples that such is happening in the USA.

Remember this comes from a person who believes the confiscation of firearms would be lawful.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Because most people, from both parties, love liberty in their hearts, they are being fooled to believe that their "party leaders" share their values.

Their party leaders are not fucking communists either.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE STUCK IN THE GOD DAMN 1950'S WHEN COMMUNISM ALSO WASN'T A BIG PROBLEM WITHIN THE STATES.

We're no more communists than you are child molesters. The two are in no way comparable, I'm trying to show how stupid you all sound.

Can you explain the difference between the Democratic Leadership (what they actually do, not what they say) and Communism? The thread asks YOU the question.

1) Define Communism.

2) Define the Democratic Party based on what it actually DOES.

3) Explain the difference.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That comes from a person who knows what the Constitution and SCOTUS have said about certain classes of weapons and confiscation.

Stay focused, 2nd: look me in the eyes; no, look me in the eyes. Now try to concentrate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

2nd cannot explain how the Democratic Leadership (what they actually do, not what they say) is like communism.

He spouts, then pouts, then routs, and runs away.

What a little teapot.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

That comes from a person who knows what the Constitution and SCOTUS have said about certain classes of weapons and confiscation.

Stay focused, 2nd: look me in the eyes; no, look me in the eyes. Now try to concentrate.

Only the Jury is the Arbiter of the Constitution. Judicial Review is unconstitutional, so what the SCOTUS says is moot.

"I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by
man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its
constitution." --Thomas Jefferson.

JOHN ADAMS (1771): It's not only ....(the juror's) right, but his duty, in that case, to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgement, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.

JOHN JAY (1794): The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy.

ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge's instruction...."if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong."

SAMUEL CHASE (1804): The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts.

All of these great men had striking differences in contrasts in their opinions and ways in which they believed was best to govern, but on this particular fact, they all agreed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And that is why 2nd no one gives you any credulity.

You are flatly weirdo wack wrong on this. Move along.

 

[Political Junky]

The low end of the 1% are upper middle class. They have far more in common with the middle class than they do with the multi-billionaires at the top of the 1%.

Bullshit. Here is the reality;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhvYeQPOcE]Wealth Distribution in the USA - SHOCKING! - YouTube[/ame]

yes.....a reality that you don't seem to understand...

that socialism/communism would equally distribute the money as the video depicted is a fucking laugh...

coporatism is why you see the 1%ers gaining so much.....corporatists like Obama who dish out to his favored corporations, banks and such, OUR tax money....while on the other hand he hampers small business especially with his new rules and regs....socialists want to get key corporations under their thumbs and keep small business and the middle class bourgeois down...so far he's succeeding rather well at it....

Corporatism is Fascism, the opposite of Communism.

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini

 

[The2ndAmendment]

And that is why 2nd no one gives you any credulity.

You are flatly weirdo wack wrong on this. Move along.

Do you ever post more than one or two sentences of garbage? The reason you get zero respect, unlike Sallow or others that take your same stance, is because you don't respect the other side by responding to their long and carefully constructed posts, supported by evidence and other links.

 

[RDD_1210]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

 

[Vox]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

well, for a change somebody actually puts the terminology where it should be.

Soviet Union ( or North Korea) were ( or is) not communist countries, but socialist countries. Communism as per definition was never built anywhere except military communist phase in 1918-1920 in the USSR.
What is generally referred as "socialism " in American terminology ( Sweden-like social bonanza) is actually social-democracy - a very far from socialism sate of political affairs.

American Democratic party is mostly social-democrats with a big wing of militant socialists on the left. There are few communists there as well, but generally they are not a majority.

But you also know perfectly well that there is a simplification ( based on incorrect knowledge) of the terminology and pure socialism in American reality is called communism and social-democracy is called socialism.

Do not pretend that you do not know it.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

Now let's break it down to reality.

What is the difference between the results of Modern Communism and the results of Democratic Leadership in failed urban shitholes?

 

[RDD_1210]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

Now let's break it down to reality.

What is the difference between the results of Modern Communism and the results of Democratic Leadership in failed urban shitholes?

Before we move the goal posts we agree that American democrats are much different than communists?

 

[JakeStarkey]

And that is why 2nd no one gives you any credulity.

You are flatly weirdo wack wrong on this. Move along.

Do you ever post more than one or two sentences of garbage? The reason you get zero respect, unlike Sallow or others that take your same stance, is because you don't respect the other side by responding to their long and carefully constructed posts, supported by evidence and other links.

With reactionary wacks like you, one or two sentence is all that is needed.

Why?

Because you make on the face stupid statements that obviously need no refutation. No one cares what four founders thought about juries. That is over long time ago.

We live in today's world, and you simply can't change it.

Has this been simple enough for you?

That's why.

 

[Vox]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

Now let's break it down to reality.

What is the difference between the results of Modern Communism and the results of Democratic Leadership in failed urban shitholes?

there is a big difference. Urban shitholes are the crime centers, where the communist ( actually pure socialist ) shitholes are usually very low on crime. Urban shitholes do not have political totalitarian tyranny, and communist ( pure socialist) shitholes - do.
Totalitarian comuunist ( socialist) regimes usually a re doctrinally and socially conservative, urban shitholes are socially deregulated altogether.
Though one has to take into consideration the stage of particular socialist county, because USSR circa 1933 and USRR circa 1975 - those are two very different realities.

Which does not mean that the economical regulation in either of those works.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not to worry, Vox: 2nd operates in his own reality.

 

[Vox]

Communism - Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production

Democrats don't wish for a classless society
Democrats don't wish for a moneyless society
Democrats don't want common ownership of the means of production

Democrats are obviously not communist.

That was easy

[/thread]

Now let's break it down to reality.

What is the difference between the results of Modern Communism and the results of Democratic Leadership in failed urban shitholes?

Before we move the goal posts we agree that American democrats are much different than communists?

no, they are not MUCH different. They are just somewhat not advanced too far on a scale. But some of them are.

 

[Vox]

Not to worry, Vox: 2nd operates in his own reality.

well, the economics of redistribution is actually in the same plane. the only difference is - in the pure socialism ( communism as it is known in the US) there are no middle class or 1% - everybody is in the 47%.

And it does not work - at all. neither there, nor here