When a country abandons God. God then abandons the country.

[hobelim]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

 

[hobelim]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed by a despicable human being.

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind.

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone.

You are an asshole

I could be all that but I can assure you there is no God and never has been.
No one has evidence that there ever was. You've been conned.
If you believe in immaculate conception and virgin births etc, it's your mind that's needs s clean out.

Science and medicine have never found a soul and that's a fact. Consciousness is a completely thing but you godbotherers like to link everything to God.

A filthy mind?Do you mean someone who can blow your God crap away and you can't refute it?
Next you will condemn me to hell.
That's just after you call me a troll.
Had it all before boy.
Keep going. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.

 

[hobelim]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed by a despicable human being.

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind.

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone.

You are an asshole

I could be all that but I can assure you there is no God and never has been.
No one has evidence that there ever was. You've been conned.
If you believe in immaculate conception and virgin births etc, it's your mind that's needs s clean out.

Science and medicine have never found a soul and that's a fact. Consciousness is a completely thing but you godbotherers like to link everything to God.

A filthy mind?Do you mean someone who can blow your God crap away and you can't refute it?
Next you will condemn me to hell.
That's just after you call me a troll.
Had it all before boy.
Keep going. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.

Maybe you should ask ding if I believe that a trinity diddled a virgin to father himself so the could become fully god and fully human only to be tortured, crucified, and eaten every other sunday and high holiday because God loved the roman empire so much.

You know nothing whatever about me. Fuck off wanker.

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed by a despicable human being.

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind.

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone.

You are an asshole

I could be all that but I can assure you there is no God and never has been.
No one has evidence that there ever was. You've been conned.
If you believe in immaculate conception and virgin births etc, it's your mind that's needs s clean out.

Science and medicine have never found a soul and that's a fact. Consciousness is a completely thing but you godbotherers like to link everything to God.

A filthy mind?Do you mean someone who can blow your God crap away and you can't refute it?
Next you will condemn me to hell.
That's just after you call me a troll.
Had it all before boy.
Keep going. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.

Maybe you should ask ding if I believe that a trinity diddled a virgin to father himself so the could become fully god and fully human only to be tortured, crucified, and eaten every other sunday and high holiday because God loved the roman empire so much.

You know nothing whatever about me. Fuck off wanker.

I know you are a fouled mouthed brain dead Republican who is extremely frustrated your cover has been blown.
So abuse me all you want if you get a warm inner glow from it.
You must be fun at parties.

 

[hobelim]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed by a despicable human being.

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind.

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone.

You are an asshole

I could be all that but I can assure you there is no God and never has been.
No one has evidence that there ever was. You've been conned.
If you believe in immaculate conception and virgin births etc, it's your mind that's needs s clean out.

Science and medicine have never found a soul and that's a fact. Consciousness is a completely thing but you godbotherers like to link everything to God.

A filthy mind?Do you mean someone who can blow your God crap away and you can't refute it?
Next you will condemn me to hell.
That's just after you call me a troll.
Had it all before boy.
Keep going. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.

Maybe you should ask ding if I believe that a trinity diddled a virgin to father himself so the could become fully god and fully human only to be tortured, crucified, and eaten every other sunday and high holiday because God loved the roman empire so much.

You know nothing whatever about me. Fuck off wanker.

I know you are a fouled mouthed brain dead Republican who is extremely frustrated your cover has been blown.
So abuse me all you want if you get a warm inner glow from it.
You must be fun at parties.

Now I am a republican? You know this? My cover has been blown?

Embarrass yourself some more and make another stupid assumption.

Face it son, you are an idiot.

 

[ding]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

I always pray for my soul. Everyone should pray for their soul. It's good for the soul.

 

[ding]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

Actually consciousness is the sum of one's being. It involves all of the senses. It doesn't reside in one place.

 

[ding]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

I love how you are secular humanizing this. I need to thank Collin for this. He's bringing out your deception better than I ever could.

 

[ding]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed by a despicable human being.

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind.

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone.

You are an asshole

I could be all that but I can assure you there is no God and never has been.
No one has evidence that there ever was. You've been conned.
If you believe in immaculate conception and virgin births etc, it's your mind that's needs s clean out.

Science and medicine have never found a soul and that's a fact. Consciousness is a completely thing but you godbotherers like to link everything to God.

A filthy mind?Do you mean someone who can blow your God crap away and you can't refute it?
Next you will condemn me to hell.
That's just after you call me a troll.
Had it all before boy.
Keep going. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.

Maybe you should ask ding if I believe that a trinity diddled a virgin to father himself so the could become fully god and fully human only to be tortured, crucified, and eaten every other sunday and high holiday because God loved the roman empire so much.

You know nothing whatever about me. Fuck off wanker.

Maybe you should confirm his position instead. That is what he is asking you to do. Go ahead. It's OK.

 

[fncceo]

These kids must have been terribly confused,

No, just terribly bemused.

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

Actually consciousness is the sum of one's being. It involves all of the senses. It doesn't reside in one place.

Where's you evidence from science to prove that? You don't have any but your silly God had conned you again.
You're just live in your butt with all the dumb as statements you make.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Hello everyone I'm new here and I'm interested in civilized discourse about our great nation

Hello.

Are you interested in a civilized discussion about the fact that many of the laws of this great nation are based on the most superficial superstitious perverse and ignorant interpretation of the divine commands possible whatever anyone believes or doesn't believe about God, Jesus, or the bible, which makes it way less great than it should be given the founding principles and professed dedication to truth equality and justice?

I’m willing to rent you a nice little, cozy thatch-and-tarp townhouse in Rwanda.

Pft...

I'll say what I damn well please. I'm an American goddamnit!

And if you don't see any room for improvement peckerwood you are an idiot.

I never suggested censoring you. That’s what demmunists do.
You don’t want to live in Rwanda? After all, it was Rwandans who discovered America in 1619.

Liar.

Your suggestion amounted to 'if you don't like it leave' while never responding to the simple fact that I pointed out. And its not about me not wanting to live in Rwanda it's about making where I do live better by shedding light on ugly truths about this place where religious insanity has been normalized and people have been subjugated through unjust laws set in place under an illusion of a separation between church and state.

Still have one more hut left in Rwanda. Better hurry. Going fast!

You can just say "ni88er countries". We all know you are thinking it. Don't be shy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Could be said to anyone, since "soul" is a false, somewhat childish idea that is an artifact of our introspective self awareness.

 

[ding]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

Actually consciousness is the sum of one's being. It involves all of the senses. It doesn't reside in one place.

Where's you evidence from science to prove that? You don't have any but your silly God had conned you again.
You're just live in your butt with all the dumb as statements you make.

The evidence is that there is no one part of the brain that where consciousness resides. The evidence is that every part of your body senses reality.

George Wald, Nobel Laureate explains:

The problem of consciousness was hardly avoidable for someone like me, who has spent most of his scientific life working on mechanisms of vision. That is by now a very active field, with thousands of workers. We have learned a lot, and expect to learn much more; yet none of it touches or even points however tentatively in the direction of telling us what it means to see.​

​

I learned my business on the eyes of frogs. The retina of a frog is very much like a human retina. Both contain two kinds of light receptors, rods for vision in dim light and cones for bright light; the visual pigments are closely similar in chemistry and behavior; both have the same three fundamental nerve layers, and the nervous connections to the brain are much alike. But I know that I see. Does a frog see? It reacts to light -- so does a photocell‑activated garage door. But does it know it is responding, is it aware of visual images?​

​

There is nothing whatever that I can do as a scientist to answer that question. That is the problem of consciousness: it is altogether impervious to scientific approach. As I worked on visual systems -- it would have been the same for any other sensory mode, let alone more subtle or complex manifestations of mental activity -- this realization lay always in the background. Now for me it is in the foreground. I think that it involves a permanent condition: that it never will become possible to identify physically the presence or absence of consciousness, much less its content.​

​

I of course have some preconceptions, but the only unequivocally sure thing is what goes on in my own consciousness. Everything else that I think I know involves some degree of inference. I have all kinds of evidence that other persons are conscious. It helps that they tell me so, and display other evidences of consciousness in speech and writing, art and technology. I believe that other mammals are conscious; and birds -- that business of singing at dawn and sunset makes me think that they are essentially poetic creatures. But when I get to frogs I worry, and fishes even more so. Those animals at least respond reasonably to light and some visual images. But I have worked also on the numerous and anatomically magnificent eyes of scallops, without finding any indication that these animals see, beyond reacting to a passing shadow. The last animals whose vision I worked on with my own hands were worms with great big bulging eyes, with everything you could ask for in an eye. The eyes yielded fine electrical responses to light, but I never could get the worms themselves to give any indication whatever that they responded to light. Maybe they didn’t like being with me.​

​

Any assumption regarding the presence or absence of awareness in any nonhuman animal remains just that: an unsupported assumption. Matters are no different with inorganic devices. Does the photoelectrically activated garage door resent having to open when a car’s headlights shine on it? I think not. Does a computer that has just beaten a human opponent at chess feel elated? I believe not. But there is nothing I can do to shore up those assumptions either.​

​

Consciousness is not part of that universe of space and time, of observable and measurable quantities, that is amenable to scientific investigation. For a scientist, it would be a relief to dismiss it as unreal or irrelevant. I have heard distinguished scientists do both. In a discussion with the physicist P. W. Bridgman some years ago, he spoke of consciousness as “just a way of talking.” His thesis was that only terms that can be defined operationally have meaning; and there are no operations that define consciousness. In the same discussion, the psychologist B. F. Skinner dismissed consciousness as irrelevant to science, since confined to a private world, not accessible to others.​

​

Unfortunately for such attitudes, consciousness is not just an epiphenomenon, a strange concomitant of our neural activity that we project onto physical reality. On the contrary, all that we know, including all our science, is in our consciousness. It is part, not of the superstructure, but of the foundations. No consciousness, no science. Perhaps, indeed, no consciousness, no reality -- of which more later.​

​

Though consciousness is the essential condition for all science, science cannot deal with it. That is not because it is an unassimilable element within science, but just the opposite: science is a highly digestible element within consciousness, which includes science as a limited territory within the much wider reality of whose existence we are conscious. Consciousness itself lies outside the parameters of space and time that would make it accessible to science, and that realization carries an enormous consequence: consciousness cannot be located. But more: it has no location.​

​

Some years ago I talked about this with Wilder Penfield, the great Canadian neurosurgeon. In the course of his therapeutic activities he had unprecedented opportunities to explore the exposed brains of conscious patients, and hoped in this way to discover the seat of human consciousness. I asked him, “Why do you think consciousness is in the brain? Maybe it’s all over the body.”​

​

He chuckled, and said, “Well, I’ll keep on trying.”​

​

About two years later, I met him again and he said to me, “I’ll tell you one thing: it’s not in the cerebral cortex!”​

​

Shortly afterward came the exciting announcement that the so‑called reticular formation in the brain stem of mammals contains an arousal center, a center that seems to wake creatures up and produce awareness. The problem with all such observations is that one cannot know whether one is dealing with a source or with part of the machinery of reception and transmission. It is as though, finding that the removal of a transistor from a television set stopped the transmission, one concluded it to be the source of the program.​

​

How could one possibly locate a phenomenon that one has no means of identifying -- neither its presence nor absence -- nor any known parameters of space, time, energy exchange, by which to characterize merely its occurrence, let alone its content? The very idea of a location of consciousness is absurd. Just as with Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, we have more to deal with here than technical inadequacy, with a perhaps temporary lack of means of observation and measurement. What we confront is an intrinsic condition of reality. It is not only that we are unable to locate consciousness: it has no location.​

​

Consider pain, the most primitive of sensory responses, and most closely connected with survival. I have had to kill many animals in the course of my work, and have tried always to inflict a minimum of pain. But do other animals than man feel pain? Many physiologists assert that only warm‑blooded animals feel pain, and some of their publications have stated this as an official view. The National Eye Institute announced only in 1979 a first break with this position, asking workers with cold‑blooded animals to try to avoid giving them “unnecessary pain.” When I lop off the head of a frog, I assume that the headless body is beyond pain; but is the head? So I hastily destroy the brain, and hope that ends the problem. Yet I have heard Wilder Penfield say that once a human brain has been exposed, one could operate on it with a spoon without causing an unanesthetized patient any great discomfort. And what of a worm, any small piece of which writhes on being pinched?​

​

Recently there has been a controversy in the American press involving some physicians having asserted that a human fetus feels pain in an abortion. The very idea should raise deep concern about the very widespread Arnerican practice of circumcising male newborns, performed routinely without anesthesia, the physicians having assured the rnothers that the nervous systems of their infants have not yet developed sufficiently for them to feel pain. All such assertions are equally groundless. Even as regards so primitive a concept as pain, we are altogether baffled in trying to substantiate its occurrence or absence.​

​

I used to show students a film made by the French zoologist Faure‑Fremiet on the feeding behavior of protozoa. Many of our sturdiest concepts of the apparatus required for animal behavior are mocked by these animalcules, particularly by the ciliates; for in one cell they do everything: move about, react to stimuli, feed, digest, excrete, on occasion copulate and reproduce. In this film one saw them encountering problems and solving them, much as would a mammal. I remember best a carnivorous protozoon tackling a microscopic bit of muscle. It took hold of the end of a fibril, and backed off at an angle, as though to tear it loose. When the fibril would not give, the protozoon came in again, then backed away at a new angle, worrying the fibril loose, much as a dog might have done, worrying loose a chunk of meat. It was hard, watching that single cell at work, not to anthropomorphize. Did it know what it was doing?​

​

But then, ciliate protozoa are the most complex cells we know. How about a cell highly specialized to perform a single function in a higher organism, a nerve cell for example, that can only transmit an impulse? Once, years ago, I was visiting the invertebrate physiologist, Ladd Prosser, at the University of Illinois in Urbana. He took me into his laboratory, where he was recording the electrical responses from a single nerve cell in the ventral nerve cord (which takes the place of our spinal cord) of a cockroach. It was set up to display the electrical potentials on an oscilloscope screen, and simultaneously to let them sound through a loudspeaker. I was hearing a slow, rhythmic reverberation, coming to a peak, then falling off to silence, then starting again, each cycle a few seconds, like a breathing rhythm. Prosser remarked, “That kind of response is typical of a dying nerve cell.”​

​

“My God!” I said, “It’s groaning! You’ve given it a voice, and it’s groaning!”​

​

Was that nerve cell expressing a conscious distress? Is something like that the source of a person’s groaning? There is no way whatever of knowing.​

​

So that is the problem of mind -- consciousness -- a vast, unchartable domain that includes all science, yet that science cannot deal with, has no way of approaching; not even to identify its presence or absence; that offers nothing to measure, and nothing to locate, since it has no location.​

​

George Wald: Life and Mind in the Universe

 

[ding]

Of course if that doesn't prove that consciousness resides through our anatomy maybe this will.



Is the brain controlling the micro machines in our body? Does the brain tell the cells to produce antibodies in response to a virus? Or are our cells aware at a cellular level of their surroundings and respond on their own?

 

[Colin norris]

if scripture is true

It is but you clearly don't understand it if you are going around condemning people to hell.

Ahem....As I have told you many times I am not condemning you or anyone to hell. Have you forgotten? I am telling you that because you violate the commands of God as a matter of religious devotion and desecrate the teachings of Jesus by worshiping and eating the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL, not because I say so but because of what you say and openly admit to doing.

Your idiotic rationales for doing what you do at mass and inability to perceive the stupidity of it prove that you are under a curse, the death promised for your failure to conform to the will of God.

You have your reward already!

What a load of bollocks. Its always the same when religious republicans cannot justify the crazy religion they support. Our comes the obligatory threat of eternal fire.
Now you've extended it to doing gods commands without his authority and suggesting you know the appropriate punishment on gods behalf.
Who Do you think you are?
How arrogant of you to suggest you speak on behalf of your ghost?
You have nothing and never will. You're delusional.

lol.... Relax. I am being a sanctimonious prick on purpose. I am paying back these religious hypocrites in their own coin. Do you have any idea how much suffering they have caused throughout the ages? Should I coddle them? Pretend they are living according to the instruction in the bible when they obviously are not? Do you want these people to influence customs and laws to turn the world into a living hell based on their perverse views of life inspired by their inability to comprehend the simple hidden teaching in ancient hebrew children stories?

I am basing everything I said on what ding professes to believe, that the bible is the truth, the very word of God. Whether he exists or not he is a character in that book. As that character he says "do this, don't do that" and according to what is written ding is under the condemnation of that God for doing what God said to not do under penalty of death.

Remember these stories were written to educate children about the many types of personalities in this world, either clean or unclean. Every creature described in kosher law is a metaphor for a human archetype. Eat the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and you will defile and contaminate your mind and devolve into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate, think deeply.

Defy that instruction and you will lose your mind, your very soul. Have a go at trying to have a rational conversation with ding about his irrational beliefs that contradict his own holy book.

Maybe then you will realize that those fairy tales teach timeless truths about actual reality not because I am speaking for a ghost but because you will see and hear their insanity with your own eyes and ears, the consequence for failing to stand guard over the sanctity of their own mind.

I'm bookmarking this post.

Screw that.

Just go to confession and tell the priest to tell God for you just how sorry you are for your sins and then to prove your sincerity violate the law of God, sin some more, and get down on your knees and worship the lifeless work of human hands and then eat it for spiritual life.

Go ahead, Eat it. I'm sure that God will be very impressed

I am

Did you know that confessing one's sins has a practical benefit? One might even say it's a functional advantage.

lol... Confess sins that are not sinful and do that which is sinful?

Sure its a functional advantage to the church and state, getting people to confess their so called sins was an old fashioned way of gathering and weaponizing information before wiretaps.....

smarten up.

It would do you some good to speak your sins out loud to someone. It doesn't even have to be a priest. Just the act of speaking them out load will release the power it holds over you. I'm going to pray for you now.

Dear Lord, please help hobelim reach rock bottom as fast and as humanely as possible so that he may see the depths which he has fallen and repent like the prodigal son.

lol.... I do not sin. I always do exactly as God commands and so I dwell within the sanctuary of God. I never worship false gods, I never eat the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. I never worship the work of human hands, I never murder which is misleading others to defy the divine commands, I never pay homage to the devil; any species of serpent, never have eaten the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly, never eaten the flesh of teeming vermin who go down on all fours, I have never perjured myself in the name of God, never have spoken falsely about anybody, I eat the flesh and blood of Jesus daily, (the fruit of the tree of life), and so I have already risen from among the dead and have hold of eternal life. I have my reward already.

And there are a million ways to say FU. "I'll pray for you" is one of them. You want be to hit rock bottom? lol..What a guy! is that where you found your edible triune mangod? Fuck you back.

So take your phoney prayers and ram them up your snout. Your sins are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field, your prayers are meaningless. Your poison has no effect.

You will never understand me, never understand a word of what Jesus taught, and you will never see or hear from the living God for the rest of your miserable life in hell unless you learn to say;

Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai.

It was a sincere prayer. Help me help you.

lol...Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin...I'd rather be drawn and quartered.

You prayed for me to hit rock bottom so that becoming an idolator would seem like a step in the right direction. lol.

What a guy!

Is that what happened to you? You fucked up numbskull. In the hierarchy of hell the higher you climb the lower you get. There is no bottom to the abyss.

I prayed for your soul, brother.

lol... my soul is just fine, just as pure as the day I was born.

Pray for yourself.

You are the one without a soul, bro.

Absolute rubbish. The only soul you have is your -as hole and it's not pure.
You know there's no such thing. Why make a fool of yourself by suggesting you have knowledge of who has these magical gifts from god.
You've been praying to your ghost all your life and not one thing have you ever received in return. Nothing.
You've been conned son. Admit it.

Soul or spirit were the ancient words for consciousness. No such thing? Moron. Maybe yours is s source of shit but thats just you.

The ancients thought that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. we now know that consciousness is seated in the brain. Anytime scripture speaks of what is going on in the heart they are speaking about what is going on in the mind. My ancestors were far more intelligent than you can imagine. They just had different words and expression and a knowledge of the human mind that by far surpasses the psychiatric chemical imbalance bullshit you were force fed in school. You were conned.

A person possessed by a demon was a person brainwashed and controlled by one or many despicable human beings. No such thing?

A person with an unclean spirit was a person with a filthy mind. No such thing?

And , btw, I never pray, and cannot be conned by anyone. Even you.

You are an asshole.

Actually consciousness is the sum of one's being. It involves all of the senses. It doesn't reside in one place.

Where's you evidence from science to prove that? You don't have any but your silly God had conned you again.
You're just live in your butt with all the dumb as statements you make.

The evidence is that there is no one part of the brain that where consciousness resides. The evidence is that every part of your body senses reality.

George Wald, Nobel Laureate explains:

The problem of consciousness was hardly avoidable for someone like me, who has spent most of his scientific life working on mechanisms of vision. That is by now a very active field, with thousands of workers. We have learned a lot, and expect to learn much more; yet none of it touches or even points however tentatively in the direction of telling us what it means to see.​

​

I learned my business on the eyes of frogs. The retina of a frog is very much like a human retina. Both contain two kinds of light receptors, rods for vision in dim light and cones for bright light; the visual pigments are closely similar in chemistry and behavior; both have the same three fundamental nerve layers, and the nervous connections to the brain are much alike. But I know that I see. Does a frog see? It reacts to light -- so does a photocell‑activated garage door. But does it know it is responding, is it aware of visual images?​

​

There is nothing whatever that I can do as a scientist to answer that question. That is the problem of consciousness: it is altogether impervious to scientific approach. As I worked on visual systems -- it would have been the same for any other sensory mode, let alone more subtle or complex manifestations of mental activity -- this realization lay always in the background. Now for me it is in the foreground. I think that it involves a permanent condition: that it never will become possible to identify physically the presence or absence of consciousness, much less its content.​

​

I of course have some preconceptions, but the only unequivocally sure thing is what goes on in my own consciousness. Everything else that I think I know involves some degree of inference. I have all kinds of evidence that other persons are conscious. It helps that they tell me so, and display other evidences of consciousness in speech and writing, art and technology. I believe that other mammals are conscious; and birds -- that business of singing at dawn and sunset makes me think that they are essentially poetic creatures. But when I get to frogs I worry, and fishes even more so. Those animals at least respond reasonably to light and some visual images. But I have worked also on the numerous and anatomically magnificent eyes of scallops, without finding any indication that these animals see, beyond reacting to a passing shadow. The last animals whose vision I worked on with my own hands were worms with great big bulging eyes, with everything you could ask for in an eye. The eyes yielded fine electrical responses to light, but I never could get the worms themselves to give any indication whatever that they responded to light. Maybe they didn’t like being with me.​

​

Any assumption regarding the presence or absence of awareness in any nonhuman animal remains just that: an unsupported assumption. Matters are no different with inorganic devices. Does the photoelectrically activated garage door resent having to open when a car’s headlights shine on it? I think not. Does a computer that has just beaten a human opponent at chess feel elated? I believe not. But there is nothing I can do to shore up those assumptions either.​

​

Consciousness is not part of that universe of space and time, of observable and measurable quantities, that is amenable to scientific investigation. For a scientist, it would be a relief to dismiss it as unreal or irrelevant. I have heard distinguished scientists do both. In a discussion with the physicist P. W. Bridgman some years ago, he spoke of consciousness as “just a way of talking.” His thesis was that only terms that can be defined operationally have meaning; and there are no operations that define consciousness. In the same discussion, the psychologist B. F. Skinner dismissed consciousness as irrelevant to science, since confined to a private world, not accessible to others.​

​

Unfortunately for such attitudes, consciousness is not just an epiphenomenon, a strange concomitant of our neural activity that we project onto physical reality. On the contrary, all that we know, including all our science, is in our consciousness. It is part, not of the superstructure, but of the foundations. No consciousness, no science. Perhaps, indeed, no consciousness, no reality -- of which more later.​

​

Though consciousness is the essential condition for all science, science cannot deal with it. That is not because it is an unassimilable element within science, but just the opposite: science is a highly digestible element within consciousness, which includes science as a limited territory within the much wider reality of whose existence we are conscious. Consciousness itself lies outside the parameters of space and time that would make it accessible to science, and that realization carries an enormous consequence: consciousness cannot be located. But more: it has no location.​

​

Some years ago I talked about this with Wilder Penfield, the great Canadian neurosurgeon. In the course of his therapeutic activities he had unprecedented opportunities to explore the exposed brains of conscious patients, and hoped in this way to discover the seat of human consciousness. I asked him, “Why do you think consciousness is in the brain? Maybe it’s all over the body.”​

​

He chuckled, and said, “Well, I’ll keep on trying.”​

​

About two years later, I met him again and he said to me, “I’ll tell you one thing: it’s not in the cerebral cortex!”​

​

Shortly afterward came the exciting announcement that the so‑called reticular formation in the brain stem of mammals contains an arousal center, a center that seems to wake creatures up and produce awareness. The problem with all such observations is that one cannot know whether one is dealing with a source or with part of the machinery of reception and transmission. It is as though, finding that the removal of a transistor from a television set stopped the transmission, one concluded it to be the source of the program.​

​

How could one possibly locate a phenomenon that one has no means of identifying -- neither its presence nor absence -- nor any known parameters of space, time, energy exchange, by which to characterize merely its occurrence, let alone its content? The very idea of a location of consciousness is absurd. Just as with Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, we have more to deal with here than technical inadequacy, with a perhaps temporary lack of means of observation and measurement. What we confront is an intrinsic condition of reality. It is not only that we are unable to locate consciousness: it has no location.​

​

Consider pain, the most primitive of sensory responses, and most closely connected with survival. I have had to kill many animals in the course of my work, and have tried always to inflict a minimum of pain. But do other animals than man feel pain? Many physiologists assert that only warm‑blooded animals feel pain, and some of their publications have stated this as an official view. The National Eye Institute announced only in 1979 a first break with this position, asking workers with cold‑blooded animals to try to avoid giving them “unnecessary pain.” When I lop off the head of a frog, I assume that the headless body is beyond pain; but is the head? So I hastily destroy the brain, and hope that ends the problem. Yet I have heard Wilder Penfield say that once a human brain has been exposed, one could operate on it with a spoon without causing an unanesthetized patient any great discomfort. And what of a worm, any small piece of which writhes on being pinched?​

​

Recently there has been a controversy in the American press involving some physicians having asserted that a human fetus feels pain in an abortion. The very idea should raise deep concern about the very widespread Arnerican practice of circumcising male newborns, performed routinely without anesthesia, the physicians having assured the rnothers that the nervous systems of their infants have not yet developed sufficiently for them to feel pain. All such assertions are equally groundless. Even as regards so primitive a concept as pain, we are altogether baffled in trying to substantiate its occurrence or absence.​

​

I used to show students a film made by the French zoologist Faure‑Fremiet on the feeding behavior of protozoa. Many of our sturdiest concepts of the apparatus required for animal behavior are mocked by these animalcules, particularly by the ciliates; for in one cell they do everything: move about, react to stimuli, feed, digest, excrete, on occasion copulate and reproduce. In this film one saw them encountering problems and solving them, much as would a mammal. I remember best a carnivorous protozoon tackling a microscopic bit of muscle. It took hold of the end of a fibril, and backed off at an angle, as though to tear it loose. When the fibril would not give, the protozoon came in again, then backed away at a new angle, worrying the fibril loose, much as a dog might have done, worrying loose a chunk of meat. It was hard, watching that single cell at work, not to anthropomorphize. Did it know what it was doing?​

​

But then, ciliate protozoa are the most complex cells we know. How about a cell highly specialized to perform a single function in a higher organism, a nerve cell for example, that can only transmit an impulse? Once, years ago, I was visiting the invertebrate physiologist, Ladd Prosser, at the University of Illinois in Urbana. He took me into his laboratory, where he was recording the electrical responses from a single nerve cell in the ventral nerve cord (which takes the place of our spinal cord) of a cockroach. It was set up to display the electrical potentials on an oscilloscope screen, and simultaneously to let them sound through a loudspeaker. I was hearing a slow, rhythmic reverberation, coming to a peak, then falling off to silence, then starting again, each cycle a few seconds, like a breathing rhythm. Prosser remarked, “That kind of response is typical of a dying nerve cell.”​

​

“My God!” I said, “It’s groaning! You’ve given it a voice, and it’s groaning!”​

​

Was that nerve cell expressing a conscious distress? Is something like that the source of a person’s groaning? There is no way whatever of knowing.​

​

So that is the problem of mind -- consciousness -- a vast, unchartable domain that includes all science, yet that science cannot deal with, has no way of approaching; not even to identify its presence or absence; that offers nothing to measure, and nothing to locate, since it has no location.​

​

George Wald: Life and Mind in the Universe

You went to great lengths to
prove nothing.
Here's a bit from wiki that quotes a lot more researchers at than the one you cherry picked.

Consciousness - Wikipedia

I'm don't with you. I've never gained a stimulated neuron from a godbotherer. You have not changed that.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Hello everyone I'm new here and I'm interested in civilized discourse about our great nation

Yeah right. Which would mean God has abandoned China.

The only country with post Covid growth, the country that's doubling its GDP every 8 years or so.... right.....

They’re devil worshipers.
And they don’t even know it.

But has God abandoned China? Or perhaps there is no God in the first place. I mean, if China can rise with no religion...... doesn't say much about your God, does it?

God is spiritual and china’s ill-gotten success is temporal.

Everyone's success, whether you think it's "ill-gotten" or not, is temporary.

Every empire has risen and fallen. The US's is falling.

And "God is spiritual" has what to do with anything?