Zone1 When and Why Did Lucifer Change His Name To Satan?

[Road Runner]

Is it like the opposite of Saul becoming good by changing his name to Paul? Also did he do this right after the fall from Heaven? Can anybody help me find scripture for this?

 

[Ropey]

’Lucifer’ is the Latin interpretation of the ‘King of Babylon.’

Christianity took it up as ha-Satan. There is no Lucifer in Torah.

 

[Road Runner]

So then I guess naming a child Lucifer isn't the same as naming them Satan because at first Lucifer was an angel, although it would still probably have a negative association just the same. I guess that's why it's reserved for cats.

 

[White 6]

Is it like the opposite of Saul becoming good by changing his name to Paul? Also did he do this right after the fall from Heaven? Can anybody help me find scripture for this?

Try this:

How Did Lucifer Fall and Become Satan?

Prior to the fall, Lucifer was an angel of light. How did he fall and become Satan? Learn more about the devil and how he ultimately became the adversary.

www.beliefnet.com

 

[Road Runner]

Try this:

How Did Lucifer Fall and Become Satan?

Prior to the fall, Lucifer was an angel of light. How did he fall and become Satan? Learn more about the devil and how he ultimately became the adversary.

www.beliefnet.com

Thanks, so Lucifer actually meaning "morning star" should I feel ashamed that although I don't believe I would name my child it, I sort of like it as a name considering the fact that it was actually originally a good name for a good guy?

 

[Ropey]

Satan is simply the adversary to truth, placed there in order to give us a choice and as an entity only appears twice in Torah as a figure of G-ds creation.

And hundreds of times in the New Testament. Which is > three times the size of the N.T. Some even say Lucifer is Jesus. Jesus attributed himself as the bright morning star.

Revelation 22:16
Verse Concepts
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

Source: 6 Bible verses about The Morning Star
say that lucifer is the name of Jesus since he called himself the morning star.

Why is Jesus Called the "Morning Star"? - Names of Jesus

Read about Why is Jesus Called the "Morning Star"? - Names of Jesus. Grow in your understanding of Christianity and faith.

www.christianity.com

 

[presonorek]

There is very little about Satan, Devil, and Lucifer in the Bible. I have read the Bible three times. Either there is no story of the fallen Angel in the Bible or it was such an unremarkable story that I seemed to skim past it. The most memorable references to Satan is in the book of Job and the book of Matthew.

Satan and God seemed to be old friends that haven’t seen each other in a while and made a friendly wager over Job’s loyalty. In the book of Matthew Satan makes a deal with Jesus to give him rule over all the governments of the earth in exchange for a little good ole fashioned groveling.

If there are other stories about him I need to be reminded.

 

[Likkmee]

Is it like the opposite of Saul becoming good by changing his name to Paul? Also did he do this right after the fall from Heaven? Can anybody help me find scripture for this?

This should cause some thoughts

The Unexpected Origins of Lucifer's Name - Planet Venus

The true meaning and origin of Lucifer is not what you'd expect. Lucifer is known as the devil but the truth is that it was originally the planet Venus at dawn.

chasinggods.com

 

[Muhammed]

Lucifer = The bringer of light.

Satan = Enemy.

 

[Votto]

Is it like the opposite of Saul becoming good by changing his name to Paul? Also did he do this right after the fall from Heaven? Can anybody help me find scripture for this?

satan attended public school gender class and the next thing you knew he/she/it had a gender identify crisis and started the hormone therapy and name change crap

Happens every time.

 

[norwegen]

Try this:

How Did Lucifer Fall and Become Satan?

Prior to the fall, Lucifer was an angel of light. How did he fall and become Satan? Learn more about the devil and how he ultimately became the adversary.

www.beliefnet.com

Ezekiel 28 laments the fall of the Prince of Tyre.

Isaiah 14 taunts the king of Babylon.

Neither refers to some underworld overlord that Christians call Satan.

 

[norwegen]

Satan is simply the adversary to truth, placed there in order to give us a choice and as an entity only appears twice in Torah as a figure of G-ds creation.

And hundreds of times in the New Testament. Which is > three times the size of the N.T. Some even say Lucifer is Jesus. Jesus attributed himself as the bright morning star.

Revelation 22:16
Verse Concepts
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

Source: 6 Bible verses about The Morning Star
say that lucifer is the name of Jesus since he called himself the morning star.

Why is Jesus Called the "Morning Star"? - Names of Jesus

Read about Why is Jesus Called the "Morning Star"? - Names of Jesus. Grow in your understanding of Christianity and faith.

www.christianity.com

Whereas others used the term Day Star or Bright Morning Star to taunt or mock tyrannical rulers, the Revelator used it in reference to the real Bright Morning Star.

 

[Road Runner]

This should cause some thoughts

The Unexpected Origins of Lucifer's Name - Planet Venus

The true meaning and origin of Lucifer is not what you'd expect. Lucifer is known as the devil but the truth is that it was originally the planet Venus at dawn.

chasinggods.com

Sort off topic but I wonder if the word Helel evolved into the word halo at some point since it sounds awfully similar, but Lucifer as a name and keeping the original origin sounds really pretty so it's too bad it's mostly associated with the devil now. This little baby Lucifer is so cute.

 

[Likkmee]

Sort off topic but I wonder if the word Helel evolved into the word halo at some point since it sounds awfully similar, but Lucifer as a name and keeping the original origin sounds really pretty so it's too bad it's mostly associated with the devil now. This little baby Lucifer is so cute.

Fight over. Tell "them" you're buddhist and name the kid Fhuh KHew. Hi lil boy, what B yo name:
FHUH KHEW
Tell them the Bhutso, LykkMiy recommended it

 

[Clyde 154]

Is it like the opposite of Saul becoming good by changing his name to Paul? Also did he do this right after the fall from Heaven? Can anybody help me find scripture for this?

Is "Lucifer" and "Satan.....the evil one" one and the same? In short simple terms..........not exactly. Lucifer began first to be compared to Satan because of 2 things. (1.).......people falsely assume the passage in Isaiah 14:12 which mentions Lucifer is speaking about Satan when in reality the term is translated from the meaning "Helel son of Shachar"........which is then tranlated into modern langauges to mean "The Morning Star" or "The shinning one".

When the text and content of these passages in Isaiah speak of Lucifer......its the "remnant" of Biblical Israel that is taunting or teasing ....... not Satan, but all powerful and evil leaders of its day. (Isaiah 14:3-21). Its no single or individual king/leader...etc., that is being addressed but a composite of all the evil and proud leaders of that age such as the King of Babylon that rule on earth on this physical plane of reality/existence.

Read these vss. in Isaiah 14 in context. Such Kings like the King of Babylon shine brightly in the beginning of their reign on earth much like the "morning star" is the bightest light in the morning sky...........but eventually they fall from their lofty bright high throne of arrogrance (13,14), they (Kings) fall like all things physcial in decay to a "bed of maggots" and a "cover of worms" in total disgrace. (11,15, 19-20) Its human rulers that are being addressed because the passage stated very clearly its addressing a "man" (vs.16) which possesses a "Corporeal" body. (vss. 19-20) (physcial form and substance)

(2.) How did Satan come to be AKA Lucifier? That is due to human error. Our modern culture et.al., has adopted Lucifer as Satan because of the author "John Milton's" epic poem "Paradise Lost" published in the 1600s were Milton uses the term (Lucifer) to indicate that the Devil is being addressed.

 

[Road Runner]

Is "Lucifer" and "Satan.....the evil one" one and the same? In short simple terms..........not exactly. Lucifer began first to be compared to Satan because of 2 things. (1.).......people falsely assume the passage in Isaiah 14:12 which mentions Lucifer is speaking about Satan when in reality the term is translated from the meaning "Helel son of Shachar"........which is then tranlated into modern langauges to mean "The Morning Star" or "The shinning one".

When the text and content of these passages in Isaiah speak of Lucifer......its the "remnant" of Biblical Israel that is taunting or teasing ....... not Satan, but all powerful and evil leaders of its day. (Isaiah 14:3-21). Its no single or individual king/leader...etc., that is being addressed but a composite of all the evil and proud leaders of that age such as the King of Babylon that rule on earth on this physical plane of reality/existence.

Read these vss. in Isaiah 14 in context. Such Kings like the King of Babylon shine brightly in the beginning of their reign on earth much like the "morning star" is the bightest light in the morning sky...........but eventually they fall from their lofty bright high throne of arrogrance (13,14), they (Kings) fall like all things physcial in decay to a "bed of maggots" and a "cover of worms" in total disgrace. (11,15, 19-20) Its human rulers that are being addressed because the passage stated very clearly its addressing a "man" (vs.16) which possesses a "Corporeal" body. (vss. 19-20) (physcial form and substance)

(2.) How did Satan come to be AKA Lucifier? That is due to human error. Our modern culture et.al., has adopted Lucifer as being Satan because of the author "John Milton's" epic poem "Paradise Lost" published in the 1600s were Milton uses the term (Lucifer) to indicate that the Devil is being addressed.

So in other words I don't have to feel guilty about liking the name Lucifer?

 

[Clyde 154]

So in other words I don't have to feel guilty about liking the name Lucifer?

Nope.........you've been enlightened. This often happens when the Word of God is read and comprehended by subject matter, text and content while retaining its contextual integrity.

I was much like you and assumed the 2 were the same until I studied the subject.

 

[Road Runner]

That's good because the fact that Lucifer means morning star is so pretty.

 

[Leviticus]

Lucifer was never his name. Lucifer is whatGreek scolars used for him. It loosely translates to lighted one or bringer of light. Its their translation of his title, the Morning Star.

 

[themirrorthief]

he changed his name to Satan because Hillary Clinton was already taken