When Communism Moved Into The Classroom

[JakeStarkey]

"Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group"

most of the baby boomers condemned the actions of the weathermen.

SDS was short-lived and had few serious followers. Like right wing whacks some became academics. Oh my!

1. The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.



2. “The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51



3. “[The radicals] did not go away or change their minds; the New Left shattered into a multitude of single-issue groups. We now have, to name a few, radical feminists, black extremists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, activist homosexual organizations, multiculturalists, organizations such as People for the American Way, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), the National Organization for Women (NOW), and Planned Parenthood.” Ibid p. 53

Sigh.

But just think, PC, the older ones are almost all retired and have been replaced by Xers, Yers, and Millenials who do not give a flying flip for your reactionary clap or communist trap.

 

[Wry Catcher]

1. In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'." Winston Smith's role in 1984





2.Lest one think that the position isn't a real one, you should become acquainted with Victor Kravchenko, metallurgist, engineer, executive, and captain in the Red Army. And the first Soviet “defector.” . On April 1, 1944, Victor Kravchenko left Washington for New York, where, at a press conference arranged by the NYTimes, he revealed the truth about the Soviet Union. Two years later he published “I Chose Freedom,” which played a crucial role in the formation of public opinion in the formation of the incipient Cold War. Defectors like Kravchenko faced the same sort of barrage that McCarthy did later…and for the same reasons.

3. Kravcheko revealed that the Communists did in reality what Smith did in the novel.

"Shamelessly, without so much as an explanation, it revised half a century of Russian history. I don't mean simply that it falsified some facts or gave a new interpretation of events. I mean that it deliberately stood history on its head, expunging events and inventing facts. It twisted the recent past--a past still fresh in millions of memories--into new and bizarre shapes, to conform with the version of affairs presented by the blood-purge trials and the accompanying propaganda... The roles of leading historical figures were perverted or altogether erased.... More than that, living witnesses, as far as possible, were removed. The directing staff of the Institute of Marx, Engels and Lenin in Moscow, repository of ideological truth, were removed and the more important people among them imprisoned or shot.

a. The new history" became possible. To brand the shame more deeply on our minds, "study" of the new version was made obligatory for all responsible Party people. History classes met nearly every night in this period and lecturers from Sverdlovsk came to our town to help hammer home the lies, while most of us fumed inwardly. Whatever human dignity remained in our character was humiliated...

But even the most gigantic lie, by dint of infinite repetition, takes root; Stalin knew this before Hitler discovered it. As I looked on I could see terrible falsehoods, at first accepted under pressure, become established as unquestioned "facts," particularly among younger people without personal experience to the contrary to bother them." Text collection





b. Kravchenko's defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence. FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay. On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted. Searching for Tato - latimes.com

Wonder why said asylum was withheld during FDR's lifetime?






4. "Something very much like it did happen here, and is still happening, from the schoolroom, where 'political correctness' dictates curriculum, to the workplace where 'sensitivity training' conditions behavioral and thought patterns that didn't take hold back in the schoolroom."
West, "American Betrayal," p. 73-74.

5. “The federally funded “National History Standards” for elementary schools were released in 1994, cemented a revisionist view of American Communism for schoolteachers, as the guide mentions McCarthy over twenty times, while Edison and the Wright Brothers got no mention.

“It …repeatedly condemns McCarthyism as an unmitigated evil…[but] the Hiss-Chambers and Rosenberg cases, the two dominant controversies of the anticommunist era, are described with bland, neutral language crafted to keep from implying guilt while not being quite so foolhardy as to actually assert innocence..’National Standards’…implies that the cases are part and parcel of the McCartyite horror.”
From “In Denial,” by Haynes and Klehr, pg. 151



"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana



Is it too late?

I don't know if anyone actually read the OP, but I call bullshit. Why? Simply because PC is a loud and ridiculous member of the Ministry of Truth. In short, she spins everything to jive with her ideology and has no respect for reality, i.e. history.

 

[regent]

Yes, I think it is too late. The leftists have complete and total control of the government schools. They have effectively brainwashed millions of Americans with left wing tripe. How else could Leftism survive when it is apparent to anyone capable of effective reasoning and logical thinking, that it is totally ineffective and terribly harmful.

And regarding your post, I wonder if that old fool FDR had lived, would Kravchenko have received asylum.

When one researches (as you no doubt have) the Left's admiration and infatuation with Stalin (and so many other leftist dictators), the lengths they went to to cover up his crimes, condemn those who told the truth, their many traitorous actions, and the enormous number of lies they told....it boggles the mind that anyone would ever believe anything said by a leftist.

The Left has done so much damage to this country.

It was the leftists and their Constitution that did it. I mean all those liberal ideas floating around in that liberal age of enlightenment. Our framers unable to resist all that liberalism, so they end up putting bits and pieces of liberalism into the Constitution. I blame Locke, Madison and a whole bunch of those so called founding fathers, but mostly I blame Jefferson for his super-duper liberal Declaration of Independence.

Sorry....doesn't work.

There's no humor in the destruction wrought by the Left.


Under Wilson, the US became the first fascist nation.

Under FDR, communism was accepted by folks like you.

So sad.

This gets confusing. Is America a fascist or communist country? Is it possible to be both a communist and fascist nation? Do the people get to vote for the one they want? Still if we get to vote then are we a Democratic, fascist, communist nation?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I don't know if anyone actually read the OP, but I call bullshit. Why? Simply because PC is a loud and ridiculous member of the Ministry of Truth. In short, she spins everything to jive with her ideology and has no respect for reality, i.e. history.

PC, based on her work on the Board, does not employ critical thinking.

She begins with a claim, then twists facts to fit it, instead of twisting the conclusion to fit the facts.

I suspect she her religious social conservatism supports her attempted rationalism as well as her world view.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It was the leftists and their Constitution that did it. I mean all those liberal ideas floating around in that liberal age of enlightenment. Our framers unable to resist all that liberalism, so they end up putting bits and pieces of liberalism into the Constitution. I blame Locke, Madison and a whole bunch of those so called founding fathers, but mostly I blame Jefferson for his super-duper liberal Declaration of Independence.

Sorry....doesn't work.

There's no humor in the destruction wrought by the Left.


Under Wilson, the US became the first fascist nation.

Under FDR, communism was accepted by folks like you.

So sad.

This gets confusing. Is America a fascist or communist country? Is it possible to be both a communist and fascist nation? Do the people get to vote for the one they want? Still if we get to vote then are we a Democratic, fascist, communist nation?

Ask for her definitions and examples.

 

[jasonnfree]

"Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group"

most of the baby boomers condemned the actions of the weathermen.

SDS was short-lived and had few serious followers. Like right wing whacks some became academics. Oh my!

1. The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.



2. “The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51



3. “[The radicals] did not go away or change their minds; the New Left shattered into a multitude of single-issue groups. We now have, to name a few, radical feminists, black extremists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, activist homosexual organizations, multiculturalists, organizations such as People for the American Way, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), the National Organization for Women (NOW), and Planned Parenthood.” Ibid p. 53

So PC, if you conservatives hate communists so much, why do conservatives shill for major corporations that relocate major industries to communist china for profit? Anyone suggests raising their tax rates and your party goes ballistic. How about an answer that's not copied and pasted in your usual style? Also an answer other than "you're a moron" or some such PC response please.

 

[gipper]

Only true in the minds of the uneducated.
Raise your paw.
...

Communists: Marxists, Stalinists, Trotskyites and more...name the ones who got elected to political office. Name the communists who took over the schools. Right Wing delusion is alive and well in America. Cold warrior attacks on the threat of communism is such a waste of time, it is doing nothing but pushing the right wing back into it's dark corner of the universe.

The left in America is represented by Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich. Maybe a few obscure US Reps in the Black Caucus. Hardly a take-over of the Democratic party. And Democratic party leaders and fundraisers? Hardly leftists. Most of teh past few decades it has been run by neoliberals and new Democrats, and DLC typoes.

your pathetic propaganda war is pathetically illequipped to deal with present day realities.

Wrong again.......dunce.



1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA.

a. Before the socialist network infiltrated the Democratic Party, its ideology permeated academic institutions for decades.

b. In the 60’s, radicals attempted to overthrow the US capitalist system by actual revolution: the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group. DSA was established to transform capitalism by democratic means.





2. Michael Harrington, founder of the DSA, knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elementns
The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line.

The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world...-35/2947-the-grasp-of-socialist-international




3. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.
a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies
b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.





4. "Maybe a few obscure US Reps in the Black Caucus. Hardly a take-over of the Democratic party."



72 in the House alone......
Congressional Progressive Caucus : Caucus Members



This has not been a good day for you.......one strike-out after another.

Allen West agrees with you, but then our lefty friends HATE him...he is a stinking Uncle Tom to them...(anyone who speaks the truth must be destroyed...is that Saul Alinsky or what?).

Of course, anyone capable to thinking knows commies have infected Congress in a big way.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li1r5wrlBMY]Rep. Allen West: 78-81 House Democrats Are Communists - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

 

[gipper]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

Why is it that people like you, when shown the truth, refuse to accept it? What is it about you that makes you incapable of thinking and understanding?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's only recently that I've come to appreciate what pathological liars the Left are, pick a topic Global Warming, FDR Greatness, McCarthy, economics, and the Left is outright lying about it; it's a mental illness

 

[PoliticalChic]

It was the leftists and their Constitution that did it. I mean all those liberal ideas floating around in that liberal age of enlightenment. Our framers unable to resist all that liberalism, so they end up putting bits and pieces of liberalism into the Constitution. I blame Locke, Madison and a whole bunch of those so called founding fathers, but mostly I blame Jefferson for his super-duper liberal Declaration of Independence.

Sorry....doesn't work.

There's no humor in the destruction wrought by the Left.


Under Wilson, the US became the first fascist nation.

Under FDR, communism was accepted by folks like you.

So sad.

This gets confusing. Is America a fascist or communist country? Is it possible to be both a communist and fascist nation? Do the people get to vote for the one they want? Still if we get to vote then are we a Democratic, fascist, communist nation?

"Is it possible to be both a communist and fascist nation?"



Sure is.


Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010

Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...
Communism....international socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't know if anyone actually read the OP, but I call bullshit. Why? Simply because PC is a loud and ridiculous member of the Ministry of Truth. In short, she spins everything to jive with her ideology and has no respect for reality, i.e. history.

PC, based on her work on the Board, does not employ critical thinking.

She begins with a claim, then twists facts to fit it, instead of twisting the conclusion to fit the facts.

I suspect she her religious social conservatism supports her attempted rationalism as well as her world view.

....wait a moment, while I put down my guns and religious texts….



"....She begins with a claim, then twists facts ..."


Well....let's approach this using a technique with which you are unfamiliar: logic.


If I do as you suggest, why is your post about my fav subject....me.....rather than a show of you untwisting 'the facts' and setting the record straight?


Where is your answer?


Where is your exposition of the correct scheme of things?


Or...is the rocking chair too darn comfy?


[...don't try too hard: I love posts about me...]


OK....time for your 15 minutes of fume.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group"

most of the baby boomers condemned the actions of the weathermen.

SDS was short-lived and had few serious followers. Like right wing whacks some became academics. Oh my!

1. The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.



2. “The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51



3. “[The radicals] did not go away or change their minds; the New Left shattered into a multitude of single-issue groups. We now have, to name a few, radical feminists, black extremists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, activist homosexual organizations, multiculturalists, organizations such as People for the American Way, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), the National Organization for Women (NOW), and Planned Parenthood.” Ibid p. 53

So PC, if you conservatives hate communists so much, why do conservatives shill for major corporations that relocate major industries to communist china for profit? Anyone suggests raising their tax rates and your party goes ballistic. How about an answer that's not copied and pasted in your usual style? Also an answer other than "you're a moron" or some such PC response please.

No, friend Free-of-any-intellect, here's a piece of advice, which, if given early enough, might have kept you in school beyond third grade....

Rather than change the subject, focus like a laser, and attack, confront, rebut, the actual material in the OP.

Possible?

Didn't think so.



You are exactly what Coulter had in mind when she wrote this:

"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

OMG!

Another 'is not, is not' post from Jakal!


How you manage this insight, originality, perspicacity....post after post....is beyond me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

Why is it that people like you, when shown the truth, refuse to accept it? What is it about you that makes you incapable of thinking and understanding?

Actually.....the answer to that may be worth an OP....

Bet it involves years of being inured in Liberal propaganda combined with huge dollop of fear of having to confront the herd.

gip.....I believe you've given me the plan for today: bet you know who Representative Martin Dies was....and what he had to endure.
But not everyone does....so maybe I'll OP the great man.


OK...in your honor....and with grateful acknowledgement to the Jakal, the anti-Rep.Dies.......Dies it is!

 

[editec]

If you imagine that the communists are winning?

You must have a very interesting definition of what communism is.

Because from my POV the Banksters are in control and they are many things we can agree to loathe but COMMUNISTS they aint!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

OMG!
Another 'is not, is not' post from Jakal!How you manage this insight, originality, perspicacity....post after post....is beyond me.

You are projecting your silliness onto me, are you not?

Your OP has no insight, no critical rationale, nothing of worth.

It is what it is. When you offer an OP of worth, the Board members will be thrilled.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anybody who thinks communism has infected Congress is a follower of Saul Alinksy's reactionary colleague, Joe "any lie in our cause" McCarthy.

OMG!
Another 'is not, is not' post from Jakal!How you manage this insight, originality, perspicacity....post after post....is beyond me.

You are projecting your silliness onto me, are you not?

Your OP has no insight, no critical rationale, nothing of worth.

It is what it is. When you offer an OP of worth, the Board members will be thrilled.

I can only aspire to be what you are.....


....what is that....retired?

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you imagine that the communists are winning?

You must have a very interesting definition of what communism is.

Because from my POV the Banksters are in control and they are many things we can agree to loathe but COMMUNISTS they aint!

1. Possibly you are unfamiliar with this term: ObamaCare


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).


b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

Does he sound just like a certain President??




May I suggest you use this one: "But, it's different this time."


...then I'll use: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

OMG!
Another 'is not, is not' post from Jakal!How you manage this insight, originality, perspicacity....post after post....is beyond me.

You are projecting your silliness onto me, are you not?

Your OP has no insight, no critical rationale, nothing of worth.

It is what it is. When you offer an OP of worth, the Board members will be thrilled.

I can only aspire to be what you are.........what is that....retired?

If you aspire to reach a fulfilling retirement, PC, then please find something at which you can be successful. Or step up your writing game. Just being helpful.