When covid19 cases surge

[esalla]

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

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soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

Or be born...

Now Now Kamalla Harris aborted all of her kids, so ABORTION IS A BENEFIT TO MANKIND

 

[Vastator]

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

Or be born...

Now Now Kamalla Harris aborted all of her kids, so ABORTION IS A BENEFIT TO MANKIND

I ever said that some don’t benefit... That don’t exactly make it right though...

 

[esalla]

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

Or be born...

Now Now Kamalla Harris aborted all of her kids, so ABORTION IS A BENEFIT TO MANKIND

I ever said that some don’t benefit... That don’t exactly make it right though...

Hillary Clinton aborted all of Bills kids

How cool is that

Chelseas father is Webb Hubble

Can you imagine 5 more Bill Clintons raping

 

[Levant]

Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?

I know I'm 11 pages behind and this is probably already said but I'll jump in here anyway.

The lock down had absolutely nothing to do with reducing the count of Wuhan Virus cases. It was never possible that a lockdown could reduce the number of cases. No one is going to die because of opening up, whether early, late, or right on time.

The lockdown was us giving up our liberty so state-run hospitals (the state even running the private ones right now) would not get overloaded in spite of the mismanagement by the state. It was to keep the the hospitals from getting swamped. In the end, whether we ever locked down, locked everyone down with police ready to kill if someone peeks their head out the window, or anything in between, everyone in this country is going to get exposed to the virus. Either they are naturally immune, or they get a mild case because of their own physical condition or traits, or they're going to get very sick and go to the hospital, or they get very sick and die... That's the only options and there's virtually nothing anyone can do that will change the outcomes.

The only difference will come from the randomness, individually, whether a person might not have gotten an incompetent team one way and gets an incompetent team the other.... It switches who might die but not how many die.

So there's zero harm by opening and a lot of harm by not. The governors and politicians to sue are those who are holding Americans in house arrest without having been charged with any crime.

 

[Crepitus]

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

Oklahoma Mayor Forced To Revise Mask Mandate After Rash Of Violent Threats

Oklahoma Mayor Revised Mask Mandate After Rash Of Threats

Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise his order mandating masks in stores and restaurants amid a ferocious backlash.

talkingpointsmemo.com

A proclamation went into effect in Stillwater, Oklahoma on Friday requiring that patrons of newly reopened stores and restaurants don masks while inside. Just hours later, Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise the order amid a ferocious backlash.

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse,” said City Manager Norman McNickle in a statement. “In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.”

How dare the voters tell a politician to fuck off. Right comrad?

How hard is it, to wear a mask, for your fellow Americans? Seriously?

I don't understand why you are willing to kill off someone else's sister with asthma, or someone else's parents or grandparents that are old?

What the hell are you dragging your asthmatic sister all over town? You dragging your grandparents to the damn mall or what?

They have underlying health issues. I don’t. It’s not my job or concern to keep them healthy. That’s your job.

80 million Americans are in the high risk category, around 60 million seniors over 65 yrs old and another 20 million at minimum, that are younger, with a higher risk condition....

It's more beneficial to our economy, if those 80 million adults are contributing to our economy by their out and about spending, or by their labor, and isolate those that are sick, while they are infected or infectious. A lot fewer infectious than the high risk group.

I agree with you here. You're right on.

But here is the catch, the States have to have bountiful amounts of testing... enough to continually random test communities, and hotspots..... our problem with this virus daemon, is half or more infectious carriers, are asymptomatic, and simply do not know they are sick.... random testing of 2 to 10% of the population is needed..... to catch enough of the infectious to isolate, and tracing 10 minutes or longer, face to face contacts of theirs, to isolate them....

So please support all the people that want a lot of testing kits and materials to run the tests....

We are almost up to speed on the tests, testing, materials and processing....but not quite there yet.

Supporting this, does not mean you are against the President.... it simply means you want the economy running again, and closer to full capacity than it would be, without the testing, contact tracing testing, and isolation of them....

In the long run, Trump will be happy, with the results.

How are you going to random test 10% of the population? Send the cops out to round up people?

everyone is jumping at the bit for a test, to see if they have it or have had it..... likely everyone wants to take a test and 2% to 10% won't be enough, just be the tip of the ice berg on who would want one.....

I know that won't be a problem.....

The government will never allow everyone to be tested or will find a way to make fake test because the truth will expose this farce

Nope! Trump does not want t it, because it exposes his lies and downplaying the numbers....

Why do you think his team failed miserably on tests, and why he didn't use his defense production act, to acquire the testing g supplies and tests.....? You got it backwards!!!

Seems logical your failure is assuming that what we have been told is reasonably correct and it clearly is not. There is clearly more than one virus or virus strain loose here. I surmise that one or more strains are about as dangerous as the strain if coronavirus that causes the common cold and one or more strains or another virus completely is 100 percent fatal.

So without knowing the truth that we as the public are never told we can not judge

Lol, my bad.

It's a CONSPIRACY!!!

Actually if the Government told the public the truth that itself would be a conspiracy itself since it has never happened. But you know better because you believe everything you hear on TV

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Wanna hear a real conspiracy theory? Well here it is, the chinese shut down America with a bat virus

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Again you are arguing that everything that you hear on TV is real.

Can you prove that

Has it ever happened

LOL u mock yourself not me you NSA pig

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Tell us more about how you believe that everything on TV is real

You're the one who said that kiddo, not me.

 

[Levant]

Sue them for what exactly? They can lift restrictions and allow businesses to open back up to some degree but they can’t force them to that is still their choice.

And they can't force anyone to go out in public to any place, neither employee nor customer.

 

[Lesh]

Ask the FBI about my channel

You mean the FSB? Or is it the GRU for you...

 

[Crepitus]

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

Oklahoma Mayor Forced To Revise Mask Mandate After Rash Of Violent Threats

Oklahoma Mayor Revised Mask Mandate After Rash Of Threats

Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise his order mandating masks in stores and restaurants amid a ferocious backlash.

talkingpointsmemo.com

A proclamation went into effect in Stillwater, Oklahoma on Friday requiring that patrons of newly reopened stores and restaurants don masks while inside. Just hours later, Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise the order amid a ferocious backlash.

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse,” said City Manager Norman McNickle in a statement. “In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.”

How dare the voters tell a politician to fuck off. Right comrad?

How hard is it, to wear a mask, for your fellow Americans? Seriously?

I don't understand why you are willing to kill off someone else's sister with asthma, or someone else's parents or grandparents that are old?

What the hell are you dragging your asthmatic sister all over town? You dragging your grandparents to the damn mall or what?

They have underlying health issues. I don’t. It’s not my job or concern to keep them healthy. That’s your job.

80 million Americans are in the high risk category, around 60 million seniors over 65 yrs old and another 20 million at minimum, that are younger, with a higher risk condition....

It's more beneficial to our economy, if those 80 million adults are contributing to our economy by their out and about spending, or by their labor, and isolate those that are sick, while they are infected or infectious. A lot fewer infectious than the high risk group.

I agree with you here. You're right on.

But here is the catch, the States have to have bountiful amounts of testing... enough to continually random test communities, and hotspots..... our problem with this virus daemon, is half or more infectious carriers, are asymptomatic, and simply do not know they are sick.... random testing of 2 to 10% of the population is needed..... to catch enough of the infectious to isolate, and tracing 10 minutes or longer, face to face contacts of theirs, to isolate them....

So please support all the people that want a lot of testing kits and materials to run the tests....

We are almost up to speed on the tests, testing, materials and processing....but not quite there yet.

Supporting this, does not mean you are against the President.... it simply means you want the economy running again, and closer to full capacity than it would be, without the testing, contact tracing testing, and isolation of them....

In the long run, Trump will be happy, with the results.

How are you going to random test 10% of the population? Send the cops out to round up people?

everyone is jumping at the bit for a test, to see if they have it or have had it..... likely everyone wants to take a test and 2% to 10% won't be enough, just be the tip of the ice berg on who would want one.....

I know that won't be a problem.....

The government will never allow everyone to be tested or will find a way to make fake test because the truth will expose this farce

Nope! Trump does not want t it, because it exposes his lies and downplaying the numbers....

Why do you think his team failed miserably on tests, and why he didn't use his defense production act, to acquire the testing g supplies and tests.....? You got it backwards!!!

Seems logical your failure is assuming that what we have been told is reasonably correct and it clearly is not. There is clearly more than one virus or virus strain loose here. I surmise that one or more strains are about as dangerous as the strain of coronavirus that causes the common cold and one or more strains or another virus completely is 100 percent fatal.

So without knowing the truth that we as the public are never told we can not judge

Heck no! I don't think the numbers are accurate, it's all best guessing, without enough testing.....

We need REAL numbers, real statistics to make our best decisions on this virus, and for better guessing on the next virus to show up.

We now know, the virus has likely been here since late Nov/Dec 2019..... So it has had 3 more months to spread..... likely not as infectious or deadly on the first round of infections... though certainly there are more covid deaths that have taken place e during those months that add to our death counts....

The mutation covid showing up on the east coast later seems to be killing more people...?

It would all be about the numbers if covid-19 was the only disease that we are facing. The doctors are describing different things so perhaps they are not seeing the second fatal disease at all because they are also believing the CDC. You are falling into the trap that everything or even most of what you are seeing and hearing is real.

It isn't, it never was what we are told, and I mean not once in history

Hey!

That's a whole new conspiracy theory!

You get a gold star!
[

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Nope. You have to use population not known infected as vast majority go undiagnosed and have mild to no symptoms. But you knew that and still lied. Well done, Herr Lesh.

Oh look...the asshole is posting stupid shit again.

So you want to use some unknown number to achieve what exactly?

How do you get a solid result with one input that's little better than fantasy?

Oh wait...you're a fucking troll...never mind

We know deaths and population. What exactly is unknown? Math doesn’t lie. Herr Lesh does.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

Oklahoma Mayor Forced To Revise Mask Mandate After Rash Of Violent Threats

Oklahoma Mayor Revised Mask Mandate After Rash Of Threats

Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise his order mandating masks in stores and restaurants amid a ferocious backlash.

talkingpointsmemo.com

A proclamation went into effect in Stillwater, Oklahoma on Friday requiring that patrons of newly reopened stores and restaurants don masks while inside. Just hours later, Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise the order amid a ferocious backlash.

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse,” said City Manager Norman McNickle in a statement. “In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.”

How dare the voters tell a politician to fuck off. Right comrad?

How hard is it, to wear a mask, for your fellow Americans? Seriously?

I don't understand why you are willing to kill off someone else's sister with asthma, or someone else's parents or grandparents that are old?

What the hell are you dragging your asthmatic sister all over town? You dragging your grandparents to the damn mall or what?

They have underlying health issues. I don’t. It’s not my job or concern to keep them healthy. That’s your job.

80 million Americans are in the high risk category, around 60 million seniors over 65 yrs old and another 20 million at minimum, that are younger, with a higher risk condition....

It's more beneficial to our economy, if those 80 million adults are contributing to our economy by their out and about spending, or by their labor, and isolate those that are sick, while they are infected or infectious. A lot fewer infectious than the high risk group.

I agree with you here. You're right on.

But here is the catch, the States have to have bountiful amounts of testing... enough to continually random test communities, and hotspots..... our problem with this virus daemon, is half or more infectious carriers, are asymptomatic, and simply do not know they are sick.... random testing of 2 to 10% of the population is needed..... to catch enough of the infectious to isolate, and tracing 10 minutes or longer, face to face contacts of theirs, to isolate them....

So please support all the people that want a lot of testing kits and materials to run the tests....

We are almost up to speed on the tests, testing, materials and processing....but not quite there yet.

Supporting this, does not mean you are against the President.... it simply means you want the economy running again, and closer to full capacity than it would be, without the testing, contact tracing testing, and isolation of them....

In the long run, Trump will be happy, with the results.

How are you going to random test 10% of the population? Send the cops out to round up people?

everyone is jumping at the bit for a test, to see if they have it or have had it..... likely everyone wants to take a test and 2% to 10% won't be enough, just be the tip of the ice berg on who would want one.....

I know that won't be a problem.....

The government will never allow everyone to be tested or will find a way to make fake test because the truth will expose this farce

Nope! Trump does not want t it, because it exposes his lies and downplaying the numbers....

Why do you think his team failed miserably on tests, and why he didn't use his defense production act, to acquire the testing g supplies and tests.....? You got it backwards!!!

Seems logical your failure is assuming that what we have been told is reasonably correct and it clearly is not. There is clearly more than one virus or virus strain loose here. I surmise that one or more strains are about as dangerous as the strain of coronavirus that causes the common cold and one or more strains or another virus completely is 100 percent fatal.

So without knowing the truth that we as the public are never told we can not judge

Heck no! I don't think the numbers are accurate, it's all best guessing, without enough testing.....

We need REAL numbers, real statistics to make our best decisions on this virus, and for better guessing on the next virus to show up.

We now know, the virus has likely been here since late Nov/Dec 2019..... So it has had 3 more months to spread..... likely not as infectious or deadly on the first round of infections... though certainly there are more covid deaths that have taken place e during those months that add to our death counts....

The mutation covid showing up on the east coast later seems to be killing more people...?

It would all be about the numbers if covid-19 was the only disease that we are facing. The doctors are describing different things so perhaps they are not seeing the second fatal disease at all because they are also believing the CDC. You are falling into the trap that everything or even most of what you are seeing and hearing is real.

It isn't, it never was what we are told, and I mean not once in history

Hey!

That's a whole new conspiracy theory!

You get a gold star!

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

Or be born...

View attachment 332988

Crep, shame shame shame. You stole playtime’s gold star.

 

[Levant]

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

No I mean no rights even before covid 19 happened. You can frickin pray in your closet. Most churches have sermons online. You have every right to visit your grandma, and you just might end her life. Leave your mask at home while you visit your granny.

You can't take the Sacrament online. And, in several states, you can't go visit your granny - even to make sure she's not laying dead on the floor.

 

[Levant]

Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?

Most states in these cases you are not allowed to sue the state.

Protesters? Get serious. The group that stormed the Michigan legislative building, do you seriously believe they changed the mind of the Michigan governor? Laughable.

It seems the states are opening up and are allowed to do so. So what "clear guidelines" are being ignored?

Sue Trump for not enforcing what? States opening up?

The last sentence makes no sense. Who is "their".

The trump guidelines say a state needs to have 14 days of decreased virus infections.

Most states don't have a decrease in people being infected with the virus.

No state has 14 consecutive days of decrease in the virus.

Remember when Trump said it was up to him? Remember how upset people like you got? But now you want governors to follow Trump's guidelines..

 

[Crepitus]

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

Oklahoma Mayor Forced To Revise Mask Mandate After Rash Of Violent Threats

Oklahoma Mayor Revised Mask Mandate After Rash Of Threats

Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise his order mandating masks in stores and restaurants amid a ferocious backlash.

talkingpointsmemo.com

A proclamation went into effect in Stillwater, Oklahoma on Friday requiring that patrons of newly reopened stores and restaurants don masks while inside. Just hours later, Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise the order amid a ferocious backlash.

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse,” said City Manager Norman McNickle in a statement. “In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.”

How dare the voters tell a politician to fuck off. Right comrad?

How hard is it, to wear a mask, for your fellow Americans? Seriously?

I don't understand why you are willing to kill off someone else's sister with asthma, or someone else's parents or grandparents that are old?

What the hell are you dragging your asthmatic sister all over town? You dragging your grandparents to the damn mall or what?

They have underlying health issues. I don’t. It’s not my job or concern to keep them healthy. That’s your job.

80 million Americans are in the high risk category, around 60 million seniors over 65 yrs old and another 20 million at minimum, that are younger, with a higher risk condition....

It's more beneficial to our economy, if those 80 million adults are contributing to our economy by their out and about spending, or by their labor, and isolate those that are sick, while they are infected or infectious. A lot fewer infectious than the high risk group.

I agree with you here. You're right on.

But here is the catch, the States have to have bountiful amounts of testing... enough to continually random test communities, and hotspots..... our problem with this virus daemon, is half or more infectious carriers, are asymptomatic, and simply do not know they are sick.... random testing of 2 to 10% of the population is needed..... to catch enough of the infectious to isolate, and tracing 10 minutes or longer, face to face contacts of theirs, to isolate them....

So please support all the people that want a lot of testing kits and materials to run the tests....

We are almost up to speed on the tests, testing, materials and processing....but not quite there yet.

Supporting this, does not mean you are against the President.... it simply means you want the economy running again, and closer to full capacity than it would be, without the testing, contact tracing testing, and isolation of them....

In the long run, Trump will be happy, with the results.

How are you going to random test 10% of the population? Send the cops out to round up people?

everyone is jumping at the bit for a test, to see if they have it or have had it..... likely everyone wants to take a test and 2% to 10% won't be enough, just be the tip of the ice berg on who would want one.....

I know that won't be a problem.....

The government will never allow everyone to be tested or will find a way to make fake test because the truth will expose this farce

Nope! Trump does not want t it, because it exposes his lies and downplaying the numbers....

Why do you think his team failed miserably on tests, and why he didn't use his defense production act, to acquire the testing g supplies and tests.....? You got it backwards!!!

Seems logical your failure is assuming that what we have been told is reasonably correct and it clearly is not. There is clearly more than one virus or virus strain loose here. I surmise that one or more strains are about as dangerous as the strain of coronavirus that causes the common cold and one or more strains or another virus completely is 100 percent fatal.

So without knowing the truth that we as the public are never told we can not judge

Heck no! I don't think the numbers are accurate, it's all best guessing, without enough testing.....

We need REAL numbers, real statistics to make our best decisions on this virus, and for better guessing on the next virus to show up.

We now know, the virus has likely been here since late Nov/Dec 2019..... So it has had 3 more months to spread..... likely not as infectious or deadly on the first round of infections... though certainly there are more covid deaths that have taken place e during those months that add to our death counts....

The mutation covid showing up on the east coast later seems to be killing more people...?

It would all be about the numbers if covid-19 was the only disease that we are facing. The doctors are describing different things so perhaps they are not seeing the second fatal disease at all because they are also believing the CDC. You are falling into the trap that everything or even most of what you are seeing and hearing is real.

It isn't, it never was what we are told, and I mean not once in history

I don't live in that world of paranoia... I tried for a while... but it just wasn't for me!!!

Then you live in a world where you believe everything that you see on TV is real

And you have no escape until you wake up

Taken with the conspiracy theories you've been spouting you may have just crashed the irony market.

 

[Lesh]

And they can't force anyone to go out in public to any place, neither employee nor customer.

Allowing ..or in some cases forcing businesses to open..FORCES those workers to expose themselves or starve

 

[Crepitus]

Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?

I know I'm 11 pages behind and this is probably already said but I'll jump in here anyway.

The lock down had absolutely nothing to do with reducing the count of Wuhan Virus cases. It was never possible that a lockdown could reduce the number of cases. No one is going to die because of opening up, whether early, late, or right on time.

The lockdown was us giving up our liberty so state-run hospitals (the state even running the private ones right now) would not get overloaded in spite of the mismanagement by the state. It was to keep the the hospitals from getting swamped. In the end, whether we ever locked down, locked everyone down with police ready to kill if someone peeks their head out the window, or anything in between, everyone in this country is going to get exposed to the virus. Either they are naturally immune, or they get a mild case because of their own physical condition or traits, or they're going to get very sick and go to the hospital, or they get very sick and die... That's the only options and there's virtually nothing anyone can do that will change the outcomes.

The only difference will come from the randomness, individually, whether a person might not have gotten an incompetent team one way and gets an incompetent team the other.... It switches who might die but not how many die.

So there's zero harm by opening and a lot of harm by not. The governors and politicians to sue are those who are holding Americans in house arrest without having been charged with any crime.

Cool, another conspiracy nut.

A buncha yer buddies are here.

 

[Lesh]

It was never possible that a lockdown could reduce the number of cases.

Except it did just that in South Korea and other places

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Soon the democrats will have no disease to rely on. They might have to start relying on outright murder.

So it's just going to disappear eh?

When all the projections of deaths are double now at minimum, of what they were for projected deaths by August 4th before all these states decided to open up before they met the CDC and White House standards for being able to open up?

What exactly do you get for your lying bull crud you spew each day???

Would have disappeared sooner if we unlocked on April 24th. You need to learn how viruses work and how immunity works.

 

[Levant]

I'm certain PROGS are just dumb and corrupt. Then they spin things around and blame the opponent for all their problems. Don't forget people.............

A. PROGS were more concerned about impeaching Trump for any possible reason when the virus was becoming a world pandemic.

B. PROGS blamed Trump for the world pandemic, and they paint story books intended to support their desire. meanwhile Trump accomplishments are best unreported and ignored.

C. PROGS blamed Trump for his actions in the name of racism, because racism lives in their heads rent-free. PROGS enjoy victim roles, and their leaders entertain them with victim roles.

D. PROGS promoted a "emergency bill" stuffed with a progressive pipe-dream full of money for their interests and "gender/race" diversity. Then the mother fuckers had the audacity to suggest the bail-out was intended to support Trump interests.

I don't know much, but it's worth saying again PROGS are plain dumb and corrupt.

What's a PROG? Oh, wait. I got it.

Definition of prog

intransitive verb
chiefly dialectal
: to search aboutespecially : FORAGE

prog
noun

chiefly dialectal
: FOOD, VICTUALS

Translation:

I'm certain victuals are just dumb and corrupt. Then they spin things around and blame the opponent for all their problems. Don't forget people.............

A. Foods were more concerned about impeaching Trump for any possible reason when the virus was becoming a world pandemic.

B. Victuals blamed Trump for the world pandemic, and they paint story books intended to support their desire. meanwhile Trump accomplishments are best unreported and ignored.

C. Victuals blamed Trump for his actions in the name of racism, because racism lives in their heads rent-free. Foods enjoy victim roles, and their leaders entertain them with victim roles.

D. Food promoted a "emergency bill" stuffed with a progressive pipe-dream full of money for their interests and "gender/race" diversity. Then the mother fuckers had the audacity to suggest the bail-out was intended to support Trump interests.

I don't know much, but it's worth saying again Victuals are plain dumb and corrupt.

Interesting... I never thought of food as thinking.. but maybe you were talking about food before butchering or even worse, you were thinking of people as food; I hope not.

 

[Crepitus]

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

Oklahoma Mayor Forced To Revise Mask Mandate After Rash Of Violent Threats

Oklahoma Mayor Revised Mask Mandate After Rash Of Threats

Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise his order mandating masks in stores and restaurants amid a ferocious backlash.

talkingpointsmemo.com

A proclamation went into effect in Stillwater, Oklahoma on Friday requiring that patrons of newly reopened stores and restaurants don masks while inside. Just hours later, Mayor Will Joyce was forced to revise the order amid a ferocious backlash.

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse,” said City Manager Norman McNickle in a statement. “In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.”

How dare the voters tell a politician to fuck off. Right comrad?

How hard is it, to wear a mask, for your fellow Americans? Seriously?

I don't understand why you are willing to kill off someone else's sister with asthma, or someone else's parents or grandparents that are old?

What the hell are you dragging your asthmatic sister all over town? You dragging your grandparents to the damn mall or what?

They have underlying health issues. I don’t. It’s not my job or concern to keep them healthy. That’s your job.

80 million Americans are in the high risk category, around 60 million seniors over 65 yrs old and another 20 million at minimum, that are younger, with a higher risk condition....

It's more beneficial to our economy, if those 80 million adults are contributing to our economy by their out and about spending, or by their labor, and isolate those that are sick, while they are infected or infectious. A lot fewer infectious than the high risk group.

I agree with you here. You're right on.

But here is the catch, the States have to have bountiful amounts of testing... enough to continually random test communities, and hotspots..... our problem with this virus daemon, is half or more infectious carriers, are asymptomatic, and simply do not know they are sick.... random testing of 2 to 10% of the population is needed..... to catch enough of the infectious to isolate, and tracing 10 minutes or longer, face to face contacts of theirs, to isolate them....

So please support all the people that want a lot of testing kits and materials to run the tests....

We are almost up to speed on the tests, testing, materials and processing....but not quite there yet.

Supporting this, does not mean you are against the President.... it simply means you want the economy running again, and closer to full capacity than it would be, without the testing, contact tracing testing, and isolation of them....

In the long run, Trump will be happy, with the results.

How are you going to random test 10% of the population? Send the cops out to round up people?

everyone is jumping at the bit for a test, to see if they have it or have had it..... likely everyone wants to take a test and 2% to 10% won't be enough, just be the tip of the ice berg on who would want one.....

I know that won't be a problem.....

The government will never allow everyone to be tested or will find a way to make fake test because the truth will expose this farce

Nope! Trump does not want t it, because it exposes his lies and downplaying the numbers....

Why do you think his team failed miserably on tests, and why he didn't use his defense production act, to acquire the testing g supplies and tests.....? You got it backwards!!!

Seems logical your failure is assuming that what we have been told is reasonably correct and it clearly is not. There is clearly more than one virus or virus strain loose here. I surmise that one or more strains are about as dangerous as the strain of coronavirus that causes the common cold and one or more strains or another virus completely is 100 percent fatal.

So without knowing the truth that we as the public are never told we can not judge

Heck no! I don't think the numbers are accurate, it's all best guessing, without enough testing.....

We need REAL numbers, real statistics to make our best decisions on this virus, and for better guessing on the next virus to show up.

We now know, the virus has likely been here since late Nov/Dec 2019..... So it has had 3 more months to spread..... likely not as infectious or deadly on the first round of infections... though certainly there are more covid deaths that have taken place e during those months that add to our death counts....

The mutation covid showing up on the east coast later seems to be killing more people...?

It would all be about the numbers if covid-19 was the only disease that we are facing. The doctors are describing different things so perhaps they are not seeing the second fatal disease at all because they are also believing the CDC. You are falling into the trap that everything or even most of what you are seeing and hearing is real.

It isn't, it never was what we are told, and I mean not once in history

Hey!

That's a whole new conspiracy theory!

You get a gold star!

McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.

McConnell’s Stimulus Scam: Vaccinate Businesses, Expose Workers

The Senate leader wants to block businesses from being sued for putting people at risk of Covid-19—thus ensuring people are put at risk.

www.thenation.com

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soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

No rights? You mean like the people who have no right to go to work, go to church or visit grandma?

Or be born...

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Crep, shame shame shame. You stole playtime’s gold star.

I found it on a Google search.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It was never possible that a lockdown could reduce the number of cases.

Except it did just that in South Korea and other places

We don’t know that. LOL
Lets wait 90 days and see and SK’s lockdown was nothing like our soft lockdown. Don’t be so obtuse, Herr Lesh.