When exactly does the Democrats' socialism kick in?

[citygator]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

 

[1srelluc]

Seems to me that the batshit crazy leftist dems have found their niche.

 

[Plagerist]

They have been ushering it in for decades. Duh.

 

[22lcidw]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

It's here in many forms.

 

[SweetSue92]

Per my latest thread: when conservative/independent school teachers--57% of us in total--stop spending the average $650 to supply our own rooms, that will be a start.

That's over ONE BILLION DOLLARS every school year

You all want socialism? We should give you JUST what you want.

 

[citygator]

Three strikes so far. I dont see the socialism in any post so far.

 

[Anathema]

The Socialism has been here for decades… Socisl Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, Affirmative Action, etc… Most of what the Feds do today is Socialism, and contrary to the limits laid out in the US Constitution.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Seems to me that the batshit crazy leftist dems have found their niche.

Damn, even your memes are wrong.

No wonder you are so ignorant.

The real definition of a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

 

[Votto]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

The reason socialism has historically appealed to some many blood thirsty dictators over the years is not because they are ideologues and love the philosophy of socialism, rather, it is because to give socialism half a chance to work the government needs absolute control over pretty much everything, including your thought life.

Take Hitler, for example, he was a National Socialist, but socialists divorce him as not being one of them because he did not privatize industry. Of course, they divorce him also because he was universally vilified, and rightly so, for all of his atrocities. But consider for a second, had Hitler nationalized industry. They would have no grounds to divorce him as being one of their own. Really, what difference would it have made regarding his universal evil he inflicted upon the world?

But at the end of the day, Hitler knew that all that mattered was control over industry, which he had. Hiter once said, "Why nationalize industry when we can nationalize the people?" Hitler was at least smart enough to know he was not an expert in running industry, so he allowed the experts to do the work as they then had to answer to him in the end. That is why it was a superior model to the Stalin communist model.

But both the Hitler model and Stalin model were evil. In fact, Stalin controlled industry and interestingly enough murdered millions more than Hitler, yet to this day it is considered an insult to be called a Nazi but it is cool to be called a Marxist. Why?

That is the power of the media in the West that has sold their soul to a Marxist like philosophy that saw Stalin murder hundreds of millions of people. They use propaganda to make the young folk think it is cool.


The issue is really collectivism. Centralized power has the greatest potential to inflict misery and suffering and oppression, something the Left and Progressives in the US don't understand, or if they do, don't care. This is why they seek to centralize power in the US at every turn and no matter how successful they are, it is never enough.

 

[Darkwind]

in·cre·men·tal·ism
/ˌiNGkrəˈmen(t)lˌizəm/
noun

1. belief in or advocacy of change by degrees; gradualism.

 

[CowboyTed]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

Meanwhile the MAGA is pushing Elite Theory from Karl Marx..

 

[rightwinger]

To Conservatives

Anything you do to help Corporations is Patriotism
Anything you do to help the People is Socialism

 

[MarcATL]

Republicans have wielded the word "socialism" like a club and have bludgeoned Democrats, and the country in general,with it.

As I've been predicting for years, including on here, it would lose it's power.

That time has finally arrived.

Thank God!!

 

[SweetSue92]

To Conservatives

Anything you do to help Corporations is Patriotism
Anything you do to help the People is Socialism

You really can't help people who are determined to vote like women. It is what it is.

 

[Votto]

To Conservatives

Anything you do to help Corporations is Patriotism
Anything you do to help the People is Socialism

Wrong.

Corporations are government creations stupid, and are currently more woke than Kamala.

And how many people is socialism helping in countries like North Korea and Venezuela?

Hmm?

Try again.

I know you can't do it, but I like being proven wrong every 10 years or so if possible.

 

[Mac1958]

When will I see the socialism?

That's a tough call, because their definition of "socialism" appears to be "doesn't think exactly like me on everything".

(For convenience, that definition also applies to "communism", "fascism", "Hitler", "evil", "Satanic" and "demonic".)

 

[CowboyTed]

Seems to me that the batshit crazy leftist dems have found their niche.

So you want to get rid of public roads as they are inefficient...

Just to refute your next comment:

A Public Road paid for by tax payers is "Government monopolization of an essential service'

Thanks for telling your views and it explains why ye voted against the infrastructure act..

Inside the MAGA head right now the computer chip is going
Public Road = Socialism,
Socialism = BAD,
Public Road = BAD
This doesn't compute

 

[SweetSue92]

That's a tough call, because their definition of "socialism" appears to be "doesn't think exactly like me on everything".

(For ease of use, that definition also applies to "communism", "fascism", "Hitler", "evil", "Satanic" and "demonic".)

Well, per my thread, if the 57% of teachers who are not Democrats stop funding their own classrooms, that's 1.2 BILLION dollars per year the gov will have to pony up.

"Oh. Your child says there's no tissues in the room? Well, the govt doesn't supply those, so he can bring his own I guess."

Etc, etc, etc

 

[SweetSue92]

So you want to get rid of public roads as they are inefficient...

Just to refute your next comment:

A Public Road paid for by tax payers is "Government monopolization of an essential service'

Thanks for telling your views and it explains why ye voted against the infrastructure act..

Inside the MAGA head right now the computer chip is going
Public Road = Socialism,
Socialism = BAD,
Public Road = BAD
This doesn't compute

Oh no, not at all.

We just want to the govt to FULLY FUND all your initiatives.

If teachers stop supplying their own classrooms, and just CONSERVATIVE teachers, that's 1.2 BILLION per year.

 

[22lcidw]

To Conservatives

Anything you do to help Corporations is Patriotism
Anything you do to help the People is Socialism

To Progs when they attack it is because the other side is not for everything of an issue, so they are accused of wanting nothing. much of what we see is good. What is not good though is not allowed to be thinned out or stopped. And that is where many of the Prog's accusations of death, destruction, calamity and worse happens with their stupid self-important voters falling for it. And they are used from their own who want power and money. Prog Women for Prog women candidates. Prog African Americans for Prog African American candidates. Just a couple of examples on race and gender alone. No matter if they are idiots or extremists that the voters do not even know what they pass in legislation. This is why we are in trouble.