Middleman
Defender of the month
Washington State has had some serious tragedies against police this year. I think we need to cut the guy some slack. There have been a lot of police funerals of late.
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I have no problem with what ended up happening, but I will say this. If Seattle has so many police officers available that they have time to ticket people for something as stupid and petty as jaywalking, then they have too many police officers and should probably save the taxpayers some money and lighten the load a bit.
How wonderful that you are now in charge of deciding what laws should be enforced.
I dont recall reading any post like that.
But if a jaywalking incident ends up in people injured, at what point do you suppose something went wrong?
The officer was clearly out of his ability to handle the situation, which was a tough one. I wouldn't suspend him but I would see he got better training.
Of course, this being the internet, he should have grabbed the "gage" in his cruiser and opened fire.
I have no problem with what ended up happening, but I will say this. If Seattle has so many police officers available that they have time to ticket people for something as stupid and petty as jaywalking, then they have too many police officers and should probably save the taxpayers some money and lighten the load a bit.
The officer should have waited until he was disarmed by the sweet young ladies and then he could have begged for his life on his knees like any good oppressor should. I must admit that as far as entertainment value goes, nothing beats a disarmed officer.Don't know about the right cross- I always thought when force was necessary they were supposed to use an open palm. Just don't know enough about police protocol; However, he seemed pretty sloppy in the subsequent arrest. She was 90lbs soaking wet, he should have had her pinned and cuffed in about 10 seconds.
[edit] meh, maybe she was a buck 30, 140 tops. But I stand by my statement.
The second the dummie put her hands on him the Officer could have arrested her for assault on a PO.
He over reacted in my book. He never should have hit her.
Both parties overreacted. The ladies should have just taken the citation for jaywalking and the PO should have kept his cool.
The officer will probably be suspended or moved to another area. Sure hope they don't fire him.
I usually am against over forceful cops, but in this case I think the bitch got what she deserved, video at link:
Seattle Police Officer Caught on Tape Punching Woman During Jaywalking Stop - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly
My question is though, what are the guidelines to police officers in cases like this? From what I see he had two people fighting against him while a rowdy crowd around him cheered them on. They didn't cooperate at all and they forcefully fought back, what he following guidelines when he hit her or should he try something else?
He had more patience than me, I would have pepper sprayed her as soon as she put a hand on me.
To answer your question, the smart move would have been to wait for backup, but LEO do have the right to defend themselves. Like I said personally I would have peppers sprayed both of them as soon as things got physical.
I would have that ****** in the background to who was clearly trying to incite the crowd.
I usually am against over forceful cops, but in this case I think the bitch got what she deserved, video at link:
Seattle Police Officer Caught on Tape Punching Woman During Jaywalking Stop - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly
My question is though, what are the guidelines to police officers in cases like this? From what I see he had two people fighting against him while a rowdy crowd around him cheered them on. They didn't cooperate at all and they forcefully fought back, what he following guidelines when he hit her or should he try something else?
Never. After you unload the mag into the cop's gut, he/she can return fire.
Obviously, the cop was still coherent/awake; therefore, should not have used "deadly force".
He had more patience than me, I would have pepper sprayed her as soon as she put a hand on me.
To answer your question, the smart move would have been to wait for backup, but LEO do have the right to defend themselves. Like I said personally I would have peppers sprayed both of them as soon as things got physical.
I would have that ****** in the background to who was clearly trying to incite the crowd.
glad to hear that you would not piss on her and break her arm.
You guys throw "******" around quite freely. I am stunned but not surprised.
You guys throw "******" around quite freely. I am stunned but not surprised.
Would you prefer I tell you what you are allowed to say?
I can.
Do you think hiding idiots makes them disappear?
Losers hide behind stupid rules. I want anyone that says "******" out on the stage, in the spotlight, for ALL to see.
Let me know when you get it.
He had more patience than me, I would have pepper sprayed her as soon as she put a hand on me.
To answer your question, the smart move would have been to wait for backup, but LEO do have the right to defend themselves. Like I said personally I would have peppers sprayed both of them as soon as things got physical.
I would have that ****** in the background to who was clearly trying to incite the crowd.
glad to hear that you would not piss on her and break her arm.
Someone should make clear at this point that conjob is not a police officer. He is just some police flunkie who likes to use non-specific language to give the misimpression that he knows what he's talking about. When he talks about what he'd do, he is just fantasizing.
IOW, conjob will never be in a position to do what he says he would do. He's just playing tough guy on the internet = ten feet tall in ASCII, 2" long IRL
glad to hear that you would not piss on her and break her arm.
Someone should make clear at this point that conjob is not a police officer. He is just some police flunkie who likes to use non-specific language to give the misimpression that he knows what he's talking about. When he talks about what he'd do, he is just fantasizing.
IOW, conjob will never be in a position to do what he says he would do. He's just playing tough guy on the internet = ten feet tall in ASCII, 2" long IRL
and someone should make it clear that Sangha can't read, although that is self evident.
I have never once, not even by a small margin intimated that I am an LEO. I am a Captain in the Arkansas National Guard. I serve full time and my duty station is in one of the many judicial drug task forces we have in Arkansas. I work with local,state, and federal agents , most of my duty involves acting as a SWAT team captain in rural areas where the local police dept does in fact not have a SWAT team.
I think it's clear to anyone other than a complete boob that I know what I'm talking about on most issues, whether you agree with my opinion is another matter.