When is the time to talk about gun violence?

[PaintMyHouse]

Only when you look at it from an emotional viewpoint.

No... only when you look a it using the definition of compromise.
For gun owners to compromise, they must be offered something in return for what they give up.
If the side that wants gun owners to give something up and have no intention of offering something in return. that side seeks acquiescence, not compromise.
There's no sound reason for gun owners to acquiesce.
Pro-gun, pro-NRA guy, willing to comprimise! | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Why would anybody need to be given anything before they even consider trying to reduce senseless deaths?

Thank you for illustrating that anti-gun loons do not seek compromise.

What kind of scum demands a gift before they agree to reduce senseless deaths? The NRA opposes even studying the problem.

Thank you for further illustrating that anti-gun loons do not seek compromise.

No compromise with you could ever be found...

 

[2aguy]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

FAR more violent crime is committed without guns than with -- better than 2:1.
So, rather than focus on "gun" violence, we should focus on all kinds of violence.
That, however, will lead to convulsions that does not advance the liberal agenda-- so it won't happen.

More young people die from guns than die from cars. What other type of violence kills as many of our young people as gun violence?

I like how you avoided my point and proved my point at the same time. Nicely done.

I avoided nothing. Why is the NRA afraid to even study what might or might not work to prevent so many deaths? We spend millions per year studying how and why people die in car crashes, and finding ways to limit the danger. You don't think something that kills more 26 and younger people than cars deserves special study?

Why is it that guns end up in peoples hands who want to KILL other people? Why is it that in GUN FREE ZONES, more people are dying and not in areas that are full of guns, like gun shows? Why is it after 6 3/4 years of Obama and Hope and Change, people want to kill other people? Wasn't it the thought that liberalism is the answer to the worlds problems? Why do liberals go out of their way to kill Christians who just want to live their lives in peace and happiness? Maybe liberalism is a mental disorder and insane asylums need to be opened back up and put the liberals back where they belong?

 

[2aguy]

Very simply because neither side is actually interested in solving the problem.....

Bingo, we have a winner. Both parties are merely interested in keeping and expanding government reach and power.

That is a lie. We want to solve the problem but the anti gunners don't suggest anything that would work…but they do focus all of their effort in getting law abiding people to surrender their guns.

Licensing gun owners…would that have stopped this guy or the others? No.

Registering guns….would that have stopped this guy or the others? No.

Universal BAckground checks…would that have stopped this guy or any of the others? No.

How do we know…because none of the other mass shooters were stopped by any of these things and since most of them never committed a crime before the shooting or stole their guns…all three things would be useless to stop them.

But….one or more concealed carry people in that room or nearby might have saved lives…and we know this because concealed carriers have stopped mass shooters before.

 

[2aguy]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

How would you make guns cease to exist….? Magic?

 

[2aguy]

When is the time to talk about gun violence?

Before it happens, obviously, but Americans love their deadly toys and shit like this only makes them more stubborn about what is, in nearly all cases, no longer necessary.

No…Americans like to be safe from violent criminal attack and use guns…according to bill clinton…1.5 million times a year to stop criminals each year.

That number is garbage, utter.

It is the number bill clinton got when he did the research. So tell him.

Adjusted for current crime rates the number would be much lower.

Moron. 1.5 million….adjusted to population levels today….no….wrong again.

 

[Pete7469]

Maybe we should try focusing on what is driving people to commit these acts of violence instead of focusing so much attention on the weapon they use.

That solution won't work for bed wetters.

The only solution they will accept is "The Final Solution" where all the guns get turned in to the government.

Everyone knows what happens after that.

They can bullshit all they want about mag capacity, AWB's "sporting purposes" but that's all it is...

BULLSHIT.

The goal is total disarmament soviet style, so that the human resources can be properly managed.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

How would you make guns cease to exist….? Magic?

Hard work. Other nations have managed to do so eh?

 

[2aguy]

I like how you avoided my point and proved my point at the same time. Nicely done.

I avoided nothing.

Ok then...
Tell us why you focus on gun violence when better than 70% of violent crime is committed without a gun?

You happy with this chart?
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are those countries proud of the innocent civilians murdered by their governments……Europe sent 12 million people to death in German death camps…….Russia 25 million, China 70 million, and that doesn't include the Armenian genocide the or any of the other mass murders by governments against unarmed people around the world.

Europe? That isn't a country. And your claim is obviously false.

France and other countries handed over their citizens to Germans to be murdered in their death camps……almost all of them did……..to the tune of 12 million people.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Maybe we should try focusing on what is driving people to commit these acts of violence instead of focusing so much attention on the weapon they use.

That solution won't work for bed wetters.

The only solution they will accept is "The Final Solution" where all the guns get turned in to the government.

Everyone knows what happens after that.

They can bullshit all they want about mag capacity, AWB's "sporting purposes" but that's all it is...

BULLSHIT.

The goal is total disarmament soviet style, so that the human resources can be properly managed.

The goal of getting all the guns is to stop shit like this, not make you a slave. Besides, you've now brought a gun to a drone fight. Get over it, it's no longer 1789.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

When is the time to talk about gun violence? Never, thats the dodge

 

[2aguy]

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

How would you make guns cease to exist….? Magic?

Hard work. Other nations have managed to do so eh?

No they haven't ….Australia…gun crime on the rise….France…..gun crime happens all the time in Marseilles, SWeden…over the summer shootings and grenade attacks, Britain…19 year old got a gun for a school shooting with pipe bombs…he said it was as easy as getting chocolates….France, 3 terrorists, 2 on government terrorist watch lists, one a felon got fully automatic guns easily, and pistols and grenades and a rocket propelled grenade…

And of course the guy on the train, the guy in Belgium, the guy in Denmark…….

So no…you are wrong…

And they have just imported jihadis….so their gun violence will be going up…..

 

[jc456]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

because anyone can go nuts at anytime. Someone may be completely sane pass every piece of gun law legislation and then one day lose it. How do you suppose anyone knows this? What is with people like you who think the government can protect everyone from everything? People lose it, there is no magic eight ball to let anyone know who is going nuts today, tomorrow, or next week. Why can't you people understand this? my lord.

 

[ClosedCaption]

That is a lie. We want to solve the problem but the anti gunners don't suggest anything that would work…but they do focus all of their effort in getting law abiding people to surrender their guns.

Well the easy solution is to suggest something that works instead of just saying "that wont work" to everyone else.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

How would you make guns cease to exist….? Magic?

Hard work. Other nations have managed to do so eh?

No they haven't ….Australia…gun crime on the rise….France…..gun crime happens all the time in Marseilles, SWeden…over the summer shootings and grenade attacks, Britain…19 year old got a gun for a school shooting with pipe bombs…he said it was as easy as getting chocolates….France, 3 terrorists, 2 on government terrorist watch lists, one a felon got fully automatic guns easily, and pistols and grenades and a rocket propelled grenade…

And of course the guy on the train, the guy in Belgium, the guy in Denmark…….

So no…you are wrong…

And they have just imported jihadis….so their gun violence will be going up…..

All of that only shows the need for better gun control, like Japan.

 

[BULLDOG]

FAR more violent crime is committed without guns than with -- better than 2:1.
So, rather than focus on "gun" violence, we should focus on all kinds of violence.

That, however, will lead to convulsions that does not advance the liberal agenda-- so it won't happen.

More young people die from guns than die from cars. What other type of violence kills as many of our young people as gun violence?

No…that is not true….the number one death among teenagers and children is car accidents…..

The number of children killed by accidental gun death….69 in 2013…according to the CDC table 10.

Wrong. I noticed your info just covers until 2013, and doesn't show the trend. This is more recent
More Young Americans Now Die From Guns Than Cars

 

[jc456]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

When is the time to talk about gun violence? Never, thats the dodge

so, do you have a magic eight ball that gives you the names of those humans who are all of the sudden going to lose it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I hear people on both sides of the aisle saying, now is not the time to talk about guns. Well, when is the time? What is the answer?

Is it more guns? Is it less guns? Is it more gun restrictions or is it less gun laws?

WHY CAN'T THESE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLIGENT, SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT?

because anyone can nuts at anytime. Someone may be completely sane pass every piece of gun law legislation and then one day lose it. How do you suppose anyone know this? What is with people like you who think the government can protect everyone from everything? People lose it, there is no magic eight ball to let anyone know who is going nuts today, tomorrow, or next week. Why can't you people understand this? my lord.

When the guy who loses it has to use a kitchen knife or a baseball bat, we'll deal with it.

 

[2aguy]

They have figured it out….it is against the law to commit a crime with a gun. It is against the law for a felon to own, carry or use a gun. When either person is caught with a gun they can be arrested and sent to jail.

Where they can improve things…sentencing for gun crimes. They need to make sentences for gun crimes by actual criminals longer….

We have a gun trafficker sentenced today…brought 43 guns into Chicago…tried to sell them to criminals, got 3 years he will be out in less than 2. That is the problem…not law abiding people owning and carrying guns.

And he was caught with police work…they had an informant…..licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks did not, and would not have stopped this guy.

And the Oregon shooter was a "law abiding" person. So, now what?

As were many of the shooters. You can't stop them, not even in Britain, Australia or the rest of Europe…..their guys can get guns just as easily…..what you need is to get rid of gun free zones..these guys do not go to places where people have guns…we know this from the shooters who left messages before the event.

That is why licensing gun owners…would not have stopped this guy. Registering guns…would not have stopped this guy. Univrsal background checks…would not have stoppe this guy….

Someone in that classroom or in an adjacent classroom with a gun..might have saved lives….

Or, and much safer, there could have been no guns, a thought that scares the panties off of you.

How would you make guns cease to exist….? Magic?

Hard work. Other nations have managed to do so eh?

You mean like Sweden…

read these and rewrite your post….

Sweden s 3rd largest city hit by multiple blasts police plead for help to tackle violence spike RT News

on Sweden being the rape capitol of Europe...

http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2015/02/15/the-swedes-and-the-clash-of-civilizations/

June 2015 violence in Sweden...

Violence Erupts in Sweden as Ethnic Groups Clash in Race Riots

Serial shooter from 09-10 in Sweden..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009–10_Malmö_shootings

The cause of violence in Sweden....immigration from violent 3rd world countries...


Another shooting in Roseng rd. Was Fox News right about Malm 12 years ago Swedish Surveyor


2015-06-04 -On Wednesday night, at 19.30 a 35-year-old man was found by emergency services in a car after having been shot in the head in Rosengård, one of Malmös “no-go zones“.

The man was transported to the hospital and the police have labelled the crime attempted murder/manslaughter.

On a more positive note: 6 men (ethnicity withheld) were indicted this Tuesday for the bombings which plagued Malmö last year.

[…] Rosengard was once one of the programme’s proudest achievements: a high-rise development that was close to the centre of Malmö, one of Sweden’s industrial powerhouses, but surrounded by open space. Today over 80% of its population of 24,000 are immigrants. The local shops have names such as Babylon and Lebanon. Women in hijabs and headscarves cart their shopping through the freezing rain. Men sit in cafés drinking strong coffee and keeping dry. A truck sells falafel sandwiches.

[…] Mass immigration is posing serious problems for the region. For the Nordic countries to be able to afford their welfare states they need to have 80% of their adults in the workforce, but labour-force participation among non-European immigrants is much lower than that. In Sweden only 51% of non-Europeans have a job, compared with over 84% of native Swedes. The Nordic countries need to persuade their citizens that they are getting a good return on their taxes, but mass immigration is creating a class of people who are permanently dependent on the state.

– the Economist, Feb 2nd 2013



A look at the muslim violence in Sweden...



Warring Migrant Tribes, Grenade Attacks, Authorities That Don't Give a Damn...What Is Going On In Sweden? - Breitbart





Swedish rape problem...

The Swedes and the Clash of Civilizations


On the shooting in Sweden 2 guys shot watching soccer game


Sweden shooting puts focus on life in 'ghettoes without hope'

This is an update on violence in Sweden...

The anti gun extremists,always tell us that Europe is a gun grabbers paradise, and that we should be more like them. the problem....their criminals get guns as easily as ours do...and worse, in Sweden, they like to throw grenades at each other....2014 and 2015 have seen record numbers of grenade attacks in Sweden as violent games shoot at each other and toss grenades, funny that we in the U.S. Haven't been clued in to this violence. Of course, that info would go against the anti gun extremist meme about Europe. and the idea that Europe is a gun free paradise is slowly giving way to the truth, that criminals in Europe get guns as easily as they do here in the States, and they have a fondness for fully automatic, military rifles, and grenades....

'You get street smart when you live in Malmö' - The Local

It is early morning on a sunny day and Malmö is just coming to life. Sweden's third biggest city is slowly getting back on its feet after a long summer of tensions, including numerous shootings, dozens of hand grenade attacks and car burnings. Yet, there is a surreal feeling of normality.

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However, the statistics suggest that violent crime in the form of explosions is rocketing in the city. In 2014 a total of 25 blasts took place in Malmö. This year, the tally is at 33 and counting. Malmö's deputy police chief makes no secret of the fact that his organization almost found itself stretched to the limit this summer. But he believes they have turned a corner.

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“It's bad enough when they use guns, because they've got such poor aim, but grenades are really worrying. They have a 360-degree reach,” explains Mats Karlsson. But he adds a caveat: “I don't want to question people who say they are afraid, but you should filter the things you read. Media reports are skewed towards Malmö, but when something happens elsewhere it barely gets a mention. I am not scared.”


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But this idyllic image sharply contrasts with another: the park is also the hotspot for Malmö's underground drugs trade. Two worlds operating side by side.

“You do get a bit street smart. If you see a gang you don't walk right into them. It's not okay that they shoot out in the street among people, and you think a lot about the drugs and the weapons. When you walk past a gang you know that at least one of them is carrying a gun,” adds Malin Karlsson, who lives with her young baby and family not far from Folkets Park.
Gun violence in Sweden.........
Good quotes in here about Malmo and Guthenberg and increased gang shootings.
Malmö police worry about wave of violence - The Local




One person was taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries after a Midsummer Day shooting in the Söderkulla square in Malmö. A 24-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after he reportedly handed himself over to the police on Monday afternoon.

No new details have emerged about two hand grenades being thrown at an apartment block in the southern Swedish city on the same day, June 20th.

Officers are also investigating a separate shooting on Ramel's street in the Rosengård area of Malmö on Monday morning. No one was believed to have been injured.

Malmö has experienced growing violence in recent years. Some of its inner-city areas and suburbs have a reputation for gun and gang-related crimes as well as race-related violence between different immigrant groups.

As a result, the force has stepped up its presence in known trouble-hit areas such as Rosengård and Seved, where around 30 people believed to be from criminal backgrounds are being tracked by officers.

“The availability [of weapons] is something which worries us a lot, that it really is this simple to get hold of them,” Patrik Johansson of the Malmö police told Swedish news wire TT on Monday.

Although police were unable to comment on this weekend's incidents, they have in general been able to link many of the shootings and explosions.

“We have seen certain connections,” Ewa-Gun Westford, police press spokeswoman, told TT, but added that not all the incidents were related to each other.

According to Daniel Vesterhav, interim departmental head of Sweden's crime statistics agency Brottsförebyggande Rådet (Brå), public shoot-outs between criminal gangs have become increasingly common in the past decade.

“We're talking about easily offended individuals who, when they perceive themselves to be offended, take action to protect their honour. It could be a car deal that has gone awry, unpaid narcotics debts or something really trivial like someone spending too long talking to someone else's girlfriend,” he told TT.

Sweden's second-biggest city, Gothenburg, has also been hit by dozens of shootings involving criminal gangs in recent years.

“Today, the gang environment is…I don't want to exactly call it the Wild West, but something in that direction,” Amir Rostami, a leading authority on Sweden's organized crime groups told The Local after two people died in a shooting in the suburb of Hisingen in March.

Rare Gun Violence Erupts In Stockholm: 1 Dead, 3 Injured In Shooting And Stabbing In Sweden



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A Tale of Two Cities: Retired Police Chief Talks Malmo to Breitbart London



Recalling his early days on the force, Elofsson said the nature and volume of crime in Malmo had changed significantly, going from the organised crime perpetrated by biker gangs decades ago to the migrant crime boom of modern Sweden. Despite the population of Malmo growing by a 50 per cent in 20 years, the amount of crimes committed has increased out of all proportion – and the number of officers available to police the streets has halved.

The reasons for this are complex, Elofsson explains. As Malmo becomes a less easy place to police, officers with any experience request to transfer elsewhere, leaving the force with mainly young, rookie cops. These officers are at the typical time of life to get married and have children, and generous Swedish child care leave laws can take professionals, both male and female, away from their jobs for months at a time. This “negative circle”, as Elofsson calls it, combined with again generous annual leave allowance can render much of Malmo with no police officers at all over the summer, as Breitbart London discovered when it called on an empty police station this week.

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“We are part of the Schengen treaty, so you have that freedom of movement which has also brought criminality here… Gun and drug related crime has definitely increased. Until recently the possession of guns by criminals was very rare – now finding people with firearms is a daily occurrence here… most of the guns we seize are used in criminal activity, are held illegally, and are smuggled into Sweden.

“Slovakia is very interesting right now – it is very easy to buy deactivated guns there but they are converted back when they are imported here”.