Where have the liberals gone?

[gipper]

The larger question is: what price will the American people and the rest of the world pay for the constraints the military/security complex has placed on Trump’s ability to normalize relations with Russia?

If you missed it, PCR recently addressed his own question. Of course the answer was always obvious.

"My conclusion is that Trump has surrendered to the real rulers of America—the powerful interest groups such as the military/security complex, the Israel Lobby, the environmental polluters, Wall Street and the banks “too big to fail.”"
Trump’s National Security Speech - PaulCraigRoberts.org

Yes he appears to have surrendered. He has to know if he didn’t, he might get his head blown off in broad daylight.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Government Spending for Every Quarter of Trump & Repubtards are HIGHER than ANY for Obama & Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what you are saying is that 1.5 trillion dollars over 10 years is more than 10 trillion dollars over 8 years? Damn the public education system sure has brainwashed you to the Nth degree.

The Republicans just had to raise the debt ceiling again, idiot. That's BEFORE the extra 1.5 trillion of debt they just put around our necks.

I've lost count of how many times Trump has had to sign off on increasing the debt ceiling since he took office.

We passed the significant $20 trillion milestone a while back, and not one of your propagandists told you to make a screech about it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Do you really think career politicians dislike debt? It is the cornerstone why they are elected. People now days in general think debt is a good thing... People used to think the opposite.


How about let’s cut back spending before raising taxes?
That would be the much more responsible thing to do… Progressives have a major spending problem… And it does not matter the side of the aisle they pick to be on

Agreed, and start with our yugely over bloated military budget.

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

 

[gipper]

So what you are saying is that 1.5 trillion dollars over 10 years is more than 10 trillion dollars over 8 years? Damn the public education system sure has brainwashed you to the Nth degree.

The Republicans just had to raise the debt ceiling again, idiot. That's BEFORE the extra 1.5 trillion of debt they just put around our necks.

I've lost count of how many times Trump has had to sign off on increasing the debt ceiling since he took office.

We passed the significant $20 trillion milestone a while back, and not one of your propagandists told you to make a screech about it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Do you really think career politicians dislike debt? It is the cornerstone why they are elected. People now days in general think debt is a good thing... People used to think the opposite.


How about let’s cut back spending before raising taxes?
That would be the much more responsible thing to do… Progressives have a major spending problem… And it does not matter the side of the aisle they pick to be on

Agreed, and start with our yugely over bloated military budget.

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

If Trump ordered closure of foreign military bases outside the US, he would be dead before sundown.

 

[Pete7469]

I thought liberals were anti-war, anti-GMO, for free speech, suspicious of government power, concerned about privacy rights, concerned about the power of big business and Wall Street, anti-NWO, anti-globalist, etc..... What happened to liberals?

They have been drowned out by the Regressives.

Similar to the way conservatives have been drowned out by the Trumpsters & Libertarians.

That's the primary reason divisions continue to get worse.
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Why are divisions a bad thing?

Sometimes you have to take a stand and refuse to move. If your cause is just, the public will support it and the opposition will slink away to pursue another unjust cause.

 

[danielpalos]

It's not politicians who like debt. It's every American. They demand it.

"Gimme gimme gimme, and make that guy over there pay for it."

True, go to any Walmart or Costco during the holiday season or any other time for that matter and see how many people are walking out of there with LED big screen TVs that are on food stamps… LOL
We really don’t know what “poor” is, is in this country, a disproportionate amount of people in this country that are supposedly poor are obese...



Career politicians love spending other People’s Money, that is obvious.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The ObamaPhone is now the TrumpPhone.

Food stamps are dwarfed by tax expenditures. Not even a drop in the bucket compared to the $1.4 trillion of government gifts in the form of tax expenditures.

It's funny how tards always focus on the poor, as if they are the ones running up the debt.

If you want to know who to blame for our $20 trillion debt (and climbing), look in the mirror.

You’re half right, but the fact remains, the poor are an liability. And they always will be.

Where you are backwards on, is you don’t raise taxes to spend more, that is insanity. The responsible thing is to spend less before raising taxes... Raising taxes should be the last resort, in fact maybe not even an option.

Socialist entitlement programs are the reason, the sole reason for the 20,000,000,000,000+ debt, in fact that number is not even right it’s more like 200+ trillion in unfunded liabilities which is absolutely due to Spending more than what we have. Thanks to career politicians, and those that keep on voting them into office.
Easiest thing in the world is to spend less than what you have, I have been doing it for 20+ years, I don’t think I’m the part of the demographic that is responsible for our national debt… LOL

Nothing but right wing propaganda. Our wars on crime, drugs, and terror are the reason.

Na, every year looks similar...

I make a motion to have this pie audited. Our wars on crime, drugs, and terror should be listed under defense spending not welfare spending.

 

[Aldo Raine]

The Republicans just had to raise the debt ceiling again, idiot. That's BEFORE the extra 1.5 trillion of debt they just put around our necks.

I've lost count of how many times Trump has had to sign off on increasing the debt ceiling since he took office.

We passed the significant $20 trillion milestone a while back, and not one of your propagandists told you to make a screech about it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Do you really think career politicians dislike debt? It is the cornerstone why they are elected. People now days in general think debt is a good thing... People used to think the opposite.


How about let’s cut back spending before raising taxes?
That would be the much more responsible thing to do… Progressives have a major spending problem… And it does not matter the side of the aisle they pick to be on

Agreed, and start with our yugely over bloated military budget.

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

If Trump ordered closure of foreign military bases outside the US, he would be dead before sundown.

By who, the non white guy made it through 8 years. Nothing like that is going to happen to Trump.

 

[gipper]

Do you really think career politicians dislike debt? It is the cornerstone why they are elected. People now days in general think debt is a good thing... People used to think the opposite.


How about let’s cut back spending before raising taxes?
That would be the much more responsible thing to do… Progressives have a major spending problem… And it does not matter the side of the aisle they pick to be on

Agreed, and start with our yugely over bloated military budget.

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

If Trump ordered closure of foreign military bases outside the US, he would be dead before sundown.

By who, the non white guy made it through 8 years. Nothing like that is going to happen to Trump.

Who do you think? And they don’t about race.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Agreed, and start with our yugely over bloated military budget.

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

If Trump ordered closure of foreign military bases outside the US, he would be dead before sundown.

By who, the non white guy made it through 8 years. Nothing like that is going to happen to Trump.

Who do you think? And they don’t about race.

Nobody, it won't happen.

 

[gipper]

That is drop in the bucket compared to socialist entitlement programs, but ok let’s start with all military support/embassy of Western Europe.

Sounds good to me!

If Trump ordered closure of foreign military bases outside the US, he would be dead before sundown.

By who, the non white guy made it through 8 years. Nothing like that is going to happen to Trump.

Who do you think? And they don’t about race.

Nobody, it won't happen.

Already did. Check out Dallas 1963.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump was killed in 1963? Keyrist that explains it, his orange body was taken over by aliens!

 

[gipper]

Trump was killed in 1963? Keyrist that explains it, his orange body was taken over by aliens!

Damn your slow and here I thought you knew what was going on.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump was killed in 1963? Keyrist that explains it, his orange body was taken over by aliens!

Damn your slow and here I thought you knew what was going on.

I respect many of your posts, but often times you go off into lala land. Anarchy for the sake of anarchy is just foolish folly. Nothing is happening to the orange lizard. He will not be assassinated nor will he be impeached.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I thought liberals were anti-war, anti-GMO, for free speech, suspicious of government power, concerned about privacy rights, concerned about the power of big business and Wall Street, anti-NWO, anti-globalist, etc.....

What happened to liberals?

The traditional, old school stand-up Liberals I know are embarrassed to admit they're "Liberals"....as most Liberals have gone full blown Progressive and totally lost their minds and all their shit.

 

[gipper]

Trump was killed in 1963? Keyrist that explains it, his orange body was taken over by aliens!

Damn your slow and here I thought you knew what was going on.

I respect many of your posts, but often times you go off into lala land. Anarchy for the sake of anarchy is just foolish folly. Nothing is happening to the orange lizard. He will not be assassinated nor will he be impeached.

I know that.

The point I was making was IF HE WERE TO GO AGAINST THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, his demise would be most likely.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump was killed in 1963? Keyrist that explains it, his orange body was taken over by aliens!

Damn your slow and here I thought you knew what was going on.

I respect many of your posts, but often times you go off into lala land. Anarchy for the sake of anarchy is just foolish folly. Nothing is happening to the orange lizard. He will not be assassinated nor will he be impeached.

I know that.

The point I was making was IF HE WERE TO GO AGAINST THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, his demise would be most likely.

We will have to disagree, it happens!

 

[Mac1958]

I thought liberals were anti-war, anti-GMO, for free speech, suspicious of government power, concerned about privacy rights, concerned about the power of big business and Wall Street, anti-NWO, anti-globalist, etc..... What happened to liberals?

They have been drowned out by the Regressives.

Similar to the way conservatives have been drowned out by the Trumpsters & Libertarians.

That's the primary reason divisions continue to get worse.
.

Why are divisions a bad thing?

Sometimes you have to take a stand and refuse to move. If your cause is just, the public will support it and the opposition will slink away to pursue another unjust cause.

Divisions are fine when they're constructive. Refusing to budge leads to wild swings at the ballot box. As we're seeing.
.

 

[the other mike]

I thought liberals were anti-war, anti-GMO, for free speech, suspicious of government power, concerned about privacy rights, concerned about the power of big business and Wall Street, anti-NWO, anti-globalist, etc.....

What happened to liberals?

The corporate media took over thanks to "liberal" Bill Clinton signing the Telecom Act in 96.
Who are we hearing now ? Fake liberals lying to us.

 

[the other mike]

If Americans would wake up and realize that Donald Trump is not really a Republican or a Democrat, we could actually get him to do whatever we want him to. Obama knew that when he quoted Frederick Douglass about power never conceding without popular demand.....unfortunately, Trump didn't even know Frederick Douglass was dead.