Where Loyalties Lie

[TemplarKormac]

So... I'm hearing this stuff about Donald Trump's liberal past. I've heard many a conservative claim that he isn't loyal to the party. So say the conservative purists. So say those who wish to preserve and maintain the status quo. But wait! Here's a burning question: Is he not allowed to change his mind? Reagan made a similar exodus from the Democratic Party and spent the rest of his life supporting Republican ideals, and he is almost worshiped as a god by the conservative Republican sphere.

Oh, but saying good things about Hillary, donating to her foundation, or being a liberal in the past makes him a RINO now? As I recall, he never voted for Bill Clinton, he voted for Bush twice and for Romney, he also helped with John McCain's presidential campaign. As an aside, when prominent "conservative" Glenn Beck accused Trump of voting for Obama, he had to apologize.

Then, The National Review, a magazine founded by none other than William F. Buckley, is planning to dedicate an entire issue for the sole purpose of trashing Donald Trump. Led by a group of 22 conservative thinkers like Dana Loesch and Glenn Beck, they aim in that issue to make the case as to why Donald Trump shouldn't win the nomination. So what happens if he does? What will they do? What will the Republican party for that matter do? Are they prepared to alienate a great chunk of their electorate simply for the attainment of such a goal?

Now, how can those people, or anti-Trump conservatives here for that matter, lecture Donald Trump about not being loyal to conservative ideals or to the Republican Party, when they are unprepared to support him should he become the nominee? All that bluster about Hillary or Bernie winning the White House, all the fear of such an occurrence; and they are prepared to vote for Hillary or even sit home on election night, running the risk of putting a Democrat in the oval office. Simply because of his political past. It only goes to show you how fleeting things such as loyalty can be.

I am sorely disappointed in the Republican Party, not only for deviating from its stated purposes and goals in the past, but for attempting to sabotage their own front runner who is seeking the nomination of his party. It is disgusting. This shows that expressed loyalties can be nothing more but a lie. The is the behavior engaged in by a collective of hypocrites, whose undying loyalty to the party or conservative ideals suddenly goes deep six because of a man named Donald J. Trump. This is why I stopped being a Republican.

This is also why legions of people support Trump. The pro-establishment Republicans show their colors when it comes to true devotion to the party and its supporters.

What's the deal you guys? What are you so afraid of?

 

[Pogo]

You know -- Hillary Rodham grew up a Republican.

Just sayin'.

 

[Indeependent]

You know -- Hillary Rodham grew up a Republican.

Just sayin'.

Vertical or Horizontal?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know -- Hillary Rodham grew up a Republican.

Just sayin'.

Vertical or Horizontal?

In four dimensions.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Oh, but saying good things about Hillary, donating to her foundation, or being a liberal in the past makes him a RINO now" and voting for Bush makes him a RINO now.

Of course it does.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Like most rabid RWNJs, he's a flip-flopper and bends with the wind. Hell, he just became a "christian" because he was running for prez. Before that, HE was god and to the uninformed RW, he still is.

RWNJs are professional victims. Like the OP. Its all about getting on the gravy train and leeching off of others - usually blue states, Dems, you know -- those who actually work for a living.

 

[The Great Goose]

His target audience aren't democrats.

actually THAT would shake things up. He should have been a democrat.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know -- Hillary Rodham grew up a Republican.

Just sayin'.

So, I wonder why that doesn't take away from her appeal? That's quite intriguing...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Like most rabid RWNJs, he's a flip-flopper and bends with the wind. Hell, he just became a "christian" because he was running for prez. Before that, HE was god and to the uninformed RW, he still is.

Please, for your edification, reference Obama's previous stances on gay marriage.

 

[Pogo]

You know -- Hillary Rodham grew up a Republican.

Just sayin'.

Vertical or Horizontal?

Radio waves?

 

[emilynghiem]

According to the Code of Ethics for Govt Service, passed unanimously by Congress in 1980, "loyalty to party" isn't supposed to come between federal govt and upholding the Constitution:

"Any person in Government service should:

"I. Put loyalty to the highest moral principles and to country above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department.

"II. Uphold the Constitution, laws, and regulations of the United States and of all governments therein and never be a party to their evasion.

"III. Give a full day's labor for a full day's pay; giving earnest effort and best thought to the performance of duties.

"IV. Seek to find and employ more efficient and economical ways of getting tasks accomplished.

"V. Never discriminate unfairly by the dispensing of special favors or privileges to anyone, whether for remuneration or not; and never accept, for himself or herself or for family members, favors or benefits under circumstances which might be construed by reasonable persons as influencing the performance of governmental duties.

"VI. Make no private promises of any kind binding upon the duties of office, since a Governmental employee has no private word which can be binding on public duty.

"VII. Engage in no business with the Government, either directly or indirectly, which is inconsistent with the conscientious performance of governmental duties.

"VIII. Never use any information gained confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means of making a private profit.

"IX. Expose corruption wherever discovered.

"X. Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

 

[MarcATL]

LMBAO!!!

I love it!

 

[TemplarKormac]

According to the Code of Ethics for Govt Service, passed unanimously by Congress in 1980, "loyalty to party" isn't supposed to come between federal govt and upholding the Constitution:

"Any person in Government service should:

"I. Put loyalty to the highest moral principles and to country above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department.

"II. Uphold the Constitution, laws, and regulations of the United States and of all governments therein and never be a party to their evasion.

"III. Give a full day's labor for a full day's pay; giving earnest effort and best thought to the performance of duties.

"IV. Seek to find and employ more efficient and economical ways of getting tasks accomplished.

"V. Never discriminate unfairly by the dispensing of special favors or privileges to anyone, whether for remuneration or not; and never accept, for himself or herself or for family members, favors or benefits under circumstances which might be construed by reasonable persons as influencing the performance of governmental duties.

"VI. Make no private promises of any kind binding upon the duties of office, since a Governmental employee has no private word which can be binding on public duty.

"VII. Engage in no business with the Government, either directly or indirectly, which is inconsistent with the conscientious performance of governmental duties.

"VIII. Never use any information gained confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means of making a private profit.

"IX. Expose corruption wherever discovered.

"X. Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

Trump isn't a government employee. Yet.

 

[emilynghiem]

According to the Code of Ethics for Govt Service, passed unanimously by Congress in 1980, "loyalty to party" isn't supposed to come between federal govt and upholding the Constitution:

"Any person in Government service should:

"I. Put loyalty to the highest moral principles and to country above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department.

"II. Uphold the Constitution, laws, and regulations of the United States and of all governments therein and never be a party to their evasion.

"III. Give a full day's labor for a full day's pay; giving earnest effort and best thought to the performance of duties.

"IV. Seek to find and employ more efficient and economical ways of getting tasks accomplished.

"V. Never discriminate unfairly by the dispensing of special favors or privileges to anyone, whether for remuneration or not; and never accept, for himself or herself or for family members, favors or benefits under circumstances which might be construed by reasonable persons as influencing the performance of governmental duties.

"VI. Make no private promises of any kind binding upon the duties of office, since a Governmental employee has no private word which can be binding on public duty.

"VII. Engage in no business with the Government, either directly or indirectly, which is inconsistent with the conscientious performance of governmental duties.

"VIII. Never use any information gained confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means of making a private profit.

"IX. Expose corruption wherever discovered.

"X. Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

Trump isn't a government employee. Yet.

We ALL can invoke, enforce and live by the Constitution and the "democratic values" embodied therein.*
Especially if we are going to hold police, lawyers as officers of the court, and other civil servants and govt officials equally responsible for the same.

See HPD police mission statement
http://www.isocracytx.net/ec/hpdmissn.gif
linked on the right side of the same webpage at ethics-commission.net

* "We shall uphold this country's democratic values as embodied in the Constitution and shall dedicate ourselves to the preservation of liberty and justice for all"

"The mission of the HPD is to enhance the quality of life in the City of Houston by working cooperative with the public and within the framework of the U.S. Constitution to enforce the law, preserve the peace, reduce fear, and provide for a safe environment."

"The role of the police is to resolve problems through the enforcement of laws -- not through the imposition of judgement or punishment"

"Because law enforcement and public safety reflect community wide concern, the police must actively seek the involvement of citizens in all aspects of policing."

TemplarKormac by the power vested in me as a citizen sworn under public oath to uphold the laws, democratic principles, and due process embodied in the U.S. Constitution,
I do hereby deputize you as a fellow Constitutionalist to enforce these same standards -- that we may faithfully serve the public in checking all levels of govt against abuses of power, while seeking corrections, in order to restore proper balance to government power that reflects, represents and protects equal justice and interests for all citizens under law.

 

[MisterBeale]

I am sorely disappointed in the Republican Party, not only for deviating from its stated purposes and goals in the past, but for attempting to sabotage their own front runner who is seeking the nomination of his party. It is disgusting. This shows that expressed loyalties can be nothing more but a lie. The is the behavior engaged in by a collective of hypocrites, whose undying loyalty to the party or conservative ideals suddenly goes deep six because of a man named Donald J. Trump. This is why I stopped being a Republican.

This is also why legions of people support Trump. The pro-establishment Republicans show their colors when it comes to true devotion to the party and its supporters.

What's the deal you guys? What are you so afraid of?

Watch the three following YouTube films in their entirety and you will get it. If you don't, I have added an article at the end of this post for you to read.

The problem stems from clandestine interests and the internationalists.

The Democratic party is entirely composed of internationalists. They all support the UN, the Federal Reserve, the international banking cartel and Keynesian economic policies in so much as it can bring them closer to a more socialistic governmental structure. This is an international socialism and an international intergovernmental plan. Research Agenda 21.

The Republican party is more of a coalition of two governing philosophies. There is a more conservative ruling philosophy that is believes in international control of the nation, so it is much in tune with the thinking of the Democrats. This is the party establishment, it has always given the people their candidates, and supports all the same policies as the Democrats. They support the wars, the Fed, the UN, etc. They even support the Keynesian economic policies, as this produces interest and debt, and debt is good according to Keynesian theory. Rather than social programs though, they prefer to build war machines and project hard power and clandestine power, either through covert tech research, or covert economic ops. Both the Democrats, and the party establishment of the Republican party support all international organizations to reach these goals, such as the world bank, the IMF, etc. They have no problem subsuming US sovereignty to these organizations. If that means letting in lots of immigrants, so be it. If it means the world government wants your guns, eventually? Well, that's on the agenda too. The establishment Republicans are on board with Agenda 21 as well.

But, there has always been another part of the Republican party. The Libertarian wing. The grass roots wing. This is where the Tea party came from. If the two party system didn't have a strangle hold on the media and the electoral process, perhaps a third party would emerge, but as it is, it is impossible for that to be achieved.

The establishment Republicans have more in common with the elite Democrats than they do with the main-street conservatives.

Establishment Republicans don't want to lose their cheap labor. They have no idea how or what Trump's Fed Reserve policy will be.

Remember, Rand Paul, his father's audit the fed bill just got shot down, again. If that hadn't happened, folks would have seen what dire straights we truly are in. Sanders voted for it! Do you think he would have done that if it hadn't been running for president? Nearly every Democrat voted against it. Anyone that even THINKS about voting for Cruz, needs to rethink it, this vote was crucial, and he didn't help get it passed. . .

Don't be fooled, Cruz is an establishment Republican.

Banksters Win Again - "Audit the Fed" Bill Fails In The Senate | Zero Hedge

This is why the establishment Republicans will stand with Hillary before they will roll the dice with Trump. . .

And remember, these elites OWN the media, so they pretty much decide how the ignorant and uninformed will vote. IOW, once they make up their minds that Trump is going to lose, he pretty much will have to go broke if he wants to fight them on this. Otherwise, he is just part of the game. . . .







Elites Push Government-funded "Public" Media

RULING CLASS JOURNALISTS

 

[MisterBeale]

Like most rabid RWNJs, he's a flip-flopper and bends with the wind. Hell, he just became a "christian" because he was running for prez. Before that, HE was god and to the uninformed RW, he still is.

RWNJs are professional victims. Like the OP. Its all about getting on the gravy train and leeching off of others - usually blue states, Dems, you know -- those who actually work for a living.

As opposed to LWNJs?

 

[MisterBeale]

According to the Code of Ethics for Govt Service, passed unanimously by Congress in 1980, "loyalty to party" isn't supposed to come between federal govt and upholding the Constitution:

"Any person in Government service should:

"I. Put loyalty to the highest moral principles and to country above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department.

"II. Uphold the Constitution, laws, and regulations of the United States and of all governments therein and never be a party to their evasion.

"III. Give a full day's labor for a full day's pay; giving earnest effort and best thought to the performance of duties.

"IV. Seek to find and employ more efficient and economical ways of getting tasks accomplished.

"V. Never discriminate unfairly by the dispensing of special favors or privileges to anyone, whether for remuneration or not; and never accept, for himself or herself or for family members, favors or benefits under circumstances which might be construed by reasonable persons as influencing the performance of governmental duties.

"VI. Make no private promises of any kind binding upon the duties of office, since a Governmental employee has no private word which can be binding on public duty.

"VII. Engage in no business with the Government, either directly or indirectly, which is inconsistent with the conscientious performance of governmental duties.

"VIII. Never use any information gained confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means of making a private profit.

"IX. Expose corruption wherever discovered.

"X. Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

In that case, I'd estimate 95% of federal politicians are guilty of violating this Code of ethics.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So... I'm hearing this stuff about Donald Trump's liberal past. I've heard many a conservative claim that he isn't loyal to the party. So say the conservative purists. So say those who wish to preserve and maintain the status quo. But wait! Here's a burning question: Is he not allowed to change his mind? Reagan made a similar exodus from the Democratic Party and spent the rest of his life supporting Republican ideals, and he is almost worshiped as a god by the conservative Republican sphere.

Oh, but saying good things about Hillary, donating to her foundation, or being a liberal in the past makes him a RINO now? As I recall, he never voted for Bill Clinton, he voted for Bush twice and for Romney, he also helped with John McCain's presidential campaign. As an aside, when prominent "conservative" Glenn Beck accused Trump of voting for Obama, he had to apologize.

Then, The National Review, a magazine founded by none other than William F. Buckley, is planning to dedicate an entire issue for the sole purpose of trashing Donald Trump. Led by a group of 22 conservative thinkers like Dana Loesch and Glenn Beck, they aim in that issue to make the case as to why Donald Trump shouldn't win the nomination. So what happens if he does? What will they do? What will the Republican party for that matter do? Are they prepared to alienate a great chunk of their electorate simply for the attainment of such a goal?

Now, how can those people, or anti-Trump conservatives here for that matter, lecture Donald Trump about not being loyal to conservative ideals or to the Republican Party, when they are unprepared to support him should he become the nominee? All that bluster about Hillary or Bernie winning the White House, all the fear of such an occurrence; and they are prepared to vote for Hillary or even sit home on election night, running the risk of putting a Democrat in the oval office. Simply because of his political past. It only goes to show you how fleeting things such as loyalty can be.

I am sorely disappointed in the Republican Party, not only for deviating from its stated purposes and goals in the past, but for attempting to sabotage their own front runner who is seeking the nomination of his party. It is disgusting. This shows that expressed loyalties can be nothing more but a lie. The is the behavior engaged in by a collective of hypocrites, whose undying loyalty to the party or conservative ideals suddenly goes deep six because of a man named Donald J. Trump. This is why I stopped being a Republican.

This is also why legions of people support Trump. The pro-establishment Republicans show their colors when it comes to true devotion to the party and its supporters.

What's the deal you guys? What are you so afraid of?

This is one of they many problems with the GOP: extremist factions whose ideologues demand that everyone abide by their perception of what a 'real' republican is.

 

[aaronleland]

Reagan didn't spend 60 years of his life as a Democrat, only to conveniently switch parties the year he decided to run for president.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Dear JakeStarkey

You are even less of a conservative than aaron claims Trump to be. You have zero room to talk.