While we're at it, Palestinians really did get kicked out of their homes to create Israel in 1948

It was swamp, farmland, and desert and they DID NOT purchase it…

Land purchases​

KKL collection boxes to fund land purchases in Palestine were distributed among Jews from 1904
In the first half of the 19th century, no foreigners were allowed to purchase land in Palestine.[citation needed] This was official Ottoman policy until 1856 and in practice until 1867.[8] When it came to the national aspirations of the Zionist movement, the Ottoman Empire opposed the idea of Jewish self-rule in Palestine, fearing it might lose control of Palestine after recently having lost other territories to various European powers. It also took issue with the Jews, as many came from Russia, which sought the empire's demise.[9] In 1881 the Ottoman governmental administration (the Sublime Porte) decreed that foreign Jews could immigrate to and settle anywhere within the Ottoman Empire, except in Palestine and from 1882 until their defeat in 1918, the Ottomans continuously restricted Jewish immigration and land purchases in Palestine.[9] In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens.[10] Nevertheless, during the late 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, many successful land purchases were made through organizations such as the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PJCA), Palestine Land Development Company and the Jewish National Fund.


Jewish rabbis purchasing land from an Arab landowner, 1920s.

The Ottoman Land Code of 1858 "brought about the appropriation by the influential and rich families of Beirut, Damascus, and to a lesser extent Jerusalem and Jaffa and other sub-district capitals, of vast tracts of land in Syria and Palestine and their registration in the name of these families in the land registers".[11]

Many of the fellahin did not understand the importance of the registers and therefore the wealthy families took advantage of this.[citation needed] Jewish buyers who were looking for large tracts of land found it favorable to purchase from the wealthy owners.[citation needed] As well many small farmers became in debt to rich families which led to the transfer of land to the new owners and then eventually to the Jewish buyers.[citation needed]

According to Palestinian-American anthropologist Nasser Abufarha, "In 1858 the Ottoman Authority introduced the law of tabu to fix rights of ownership of the land. Land owners were instructed to have their property inscribed in the land register. The tabu was resisted by the fellahin. They saw a threat to their community in registering their land for two main reasons: 1) the cultivated fields were classified as ardh ameriyeh (the land of the Emarit) and were taxed. Owners of registered fertile land were forced to pay tax on it; 2) data from the land register were used by the Turkish Army for the purpose of the draft. Owners of registered lands were often drafted to fight with the Turkish Army in Russia."[12]

In 1918, after the British conquest of Palestine, the military administration closed the Land Register and prohibited all sale of land. The Register was reopened in 1920, but to prevent speculation and ensure a livelihood for the fellahin, an edict was issued forbidding the sale of more than 300 dunams of land or the sale of land valued at more than 3000 Palestine pounds without the approval of the High Commissioner.[13]

From the 1880s to the 1930s, most Jewish land purchases were made in the coastal plain, the Jezreel Valley, the Jordan Valley and to a lesser extent the Galilee.[11] This was due to a preference for land that was cheap and without tenants.[11] There were two main reasons why these areas were sparsely populated. The first reason being when the Ottoman power in the rural areas began to diminish in the seventeenth century, many people moved to more centralized areas to secure protection against the Bedouin tribes.[11] The second reason for the sparsely populated areas of the coastal plains was the soil type. The soil, covered in a layer of sand, made it impossible to grow the staple crop of Palestine, corn.[11] As a result, this area remained uncultivated and underpopulated.[5] "The sparse Arab population in the areas where the Jews usually bought their land enabled the Jews to carry out their purchase without engendering a massive displacement and eviction of Arab tenants".[11]

In the 1930s, most of the land was bought from landowners. Of the land that the Jews bought, 52.6% were bought from non-Palestinian landowners, 24.6% from Palestinian landowners, 13.4% from government, churches, and foreign companies, and only 9.4% from fellaheen (farmers).[14]

On 31 December 1944, out of 1,732.63 dunums of land owned in Palestine by large Jewish Corporations and private owners, about 44% was in possession of Jewish National Fund. The table below shows the land ownership of Palestine by large Jewish Corporations (in square kilometres) on 31 December 1945.



(full article online)

 
:sleeping-smiley-015: You are now boring me. All fanatics do.

Look, Jews deserve a place. But they cannot waltz in and take someone else's land just because their forefathers lived there a freaking 1000 years ago.

Give me a break.
Learn history and stop boring ME !!!

Lack of interest is no excuse for being ignorant and you are ignorant on purpose.
 
Jews BOUGHT the land. End of story.

Only up to Israel. Sure !

Not up to the PLO, PA, Hamas, all of whom have it in their covenants that they are going to destroy Israel and send the Jews away, and nothing else is acceptable.

And you cannot figure out why Hamas, like the PLO, PA and Fatah, have been doing nothing but sending rockets and killing Jews since they were given all of Gaza in 2005.


Nope, you cannot or will ever be able to figure it out.
They did NOT buy the land. They. TOOK it stop lying.

No. The Palestinians have not been good actors, but Irael has NEVER done the right thing regarding he Palestinians. They built settlements on top of Palestinian homes they had bulldozed. They cut water off to. Palestinian farms, they CAUSED this mess.

And now? I don’t see how it can end in any good way.
 
That is the operative sentence right there. 1909. What happened before that? No one lived there?

Look guy. I have read all the history you have and then some. I know every argument you are going to make.

But sorry, just because their ancestors lived there a thousand years ago does not make it their eternal homeland. Other people have been living in that same land from the time the Jews were kicked out.

As I wrote before, I will state it again. I sympathize with the Jewish people. They have been hounded for a long time. It is about time they get a place of their own. And yet...

The Jews cannot just land in some land and kick the people who lived there all with a vague mythical commandment from their God.

Sorry. That will lead to war and that is what the Jews are finding out.
You do not know the history but you do state arab propaganda....
 
It is a myth that it was just empty desert and mean Arabs just don't want Jews to have a home.

I recall from reading Exodus that God directed the Jews from Egypt to the Promised Land in a round-about way to avoid war with those in the Land of the Philistines.
 
They did NOT buy the land. They. TOOK it stop lying.

No. The Palestinians have not been good actors, but Irael has NEVER done the right thing regarding he Palestinians. They built settlements on top of t
You are lying to yourself in spite all the documentation.

You are extremist about history you know nothing about and do not care to learn.

Stay that way.
 
You are lying to yourself in spite all the documentation.

You are extremist about history you know nothing about and do not care to learn.

Stay that way.
Everyone disputes history or has their own. The globalists created Israel. They were involved in WW 1 and WW 2 and the Holocaust as they knew. Hitler was duped even as he was a monster.
 
And your proof is where, when it is all recorded by the Ottoman Empire and the British during the Mandate for Palestine?
Ottoman Empire?

Are you doing shrooms?

Prove they bought that land ya fucking maniac
 
Everyone disputes history or has their own. The globalists created Israel. They were involved in WW 1 and WW 2 and the Holocaust as they knew. Hitler was duped even as he was a monster.
Hitler was duped?

Good Lord

You ever hear of Mein Kampf?

Now you’re gonna tell us he was tricked into writing that huh?

Jesus
 
It was a swamp no body wanted and the jews BOUGHT it. They can build anything they want on it or leave it as a swamp.

They built Tel Aviv, a place you have not been to, and made a success of it, in spite of all the odds.

The Jews did not kick anyone. From 1920 on, because of the Mandate, one Arab clan started creating riots against the Jews and kicking the Jews out.

1920 Out of Gaza
1929 Out of Hebron
1949 Out of Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem.


You have no grasp of history at all and continue to just throw pebbles thinking they are making ripples.


Truly learn the history before alleging that you do know anything about it.
LOL yeah, sure. Once the Jews were kicked out, no one lived there.

Every single history you quote, seems to start from 1900s. And that too, with the Jews living in a tiny parcel of land.

What happened before 1900? What happened around them with the other land?
 
I recall from reading Exodus that God directed the Jews from Egypt to the Promised Land in a round-about way to avoid war with those in the Land of the Philistines.

No........
It was because a couple of years after being freed from slavery, God led the people to the border of Canaan, the land which God had promised them.

God had Moses send out 12 scouts to check out the land. When they came back 40 days later, 10 of the 12 scouts said that the Israelites were not strong enough to take the land from the inhabitants. The people believed them and rebelled against Moses and God.

Since the people sinned by not trusting God, he made them wander the desert for 40 years before entering the land to insure that all those who rebelled against Moses and The Lord God of Israel had all died off....and eventually Moses himself was not allowed to go into Canaan because he violated a commandment of the Lord.

God told Moses to speak to the rock, and Moses struck the rock twice. Based on Moses' actions, his frustration with these people had reached a boiling point. He had enough. Because of Moses' disobedience and lack of trust in God, the Lord told him, “You would not lead these people into the promised land.”
 
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Was it an equitable partition and who originally owned or occupied the land in question?
Imagine someone moving into your yard and raising hell and then someone else comes along and tells you they’re going to solve things by partitioning your property
 
Ottoman Empire?

Are you doing shrooms?

Prove they bought that land ya fucking maniac
You do not want any proof.

How does one prove anything to someone who does not want to accept facts?

I gave you the article, you can find any other articles which show that Zionism with Herzl started by buying land from owners who did not live on the land.

You do not wish to believe it and are totally into the Arab narrative, so be it.

We do not have to prove or excuse, or apologize for doing things legally, just as Abraham did with the Cave, and King David did with Jerusalem.


Jews buy land, even land that used to belong to them long ago.



Lots of that land was taken by force by the Hashemites in the 1948 war.



Now, stuff your lack of interest in the truth.
 
No........
It was because a couple of years after being freed from slavery, God led the people to the border of Canaan, the land which God had promised them.

God had Moses send out 12 scouts to check out the land. When they came back 40 days later, 10 of the 12 scouts said that the Israelites were not strong enough to take the land from the inhabitants. The people believed them and rebelled against Moses and God.

Since the people sinned by not trusting God, he made them wander the desert for 40 years before entering the land.
Keep the Hebrew Scripture out of this. This is not about 3800 years ago.
 
LOL yeah, sure. Once the Jews were kicked out, no one lived there.

Every single history you quote, seems to start from 1900s. And that too, with the Jews living in a tiny parcel of land.

What happened before 1900? What happened around them with the other land?
You are not ignorant. You are dumb.
Only dumb people do not bother in doing research online, which is replete with information, in order to find out that Jews never left the land, were always there through the Romans, the Byzantine, the Muslims, the Crusaders, the Ottoman Empire and the British after WWI.


Stay ignorant, because that is who you want to be.
 

Land purchases​

KKL collection boxes to fund land purchases in Palestine were distributed among Jews from 1904
In the first half of the 19th century, no foreigners were allowed to purchase land in Palestine.[citation needed] This was official Ottoman policy until 1856 and in practice until 1867.[8] When it came to the national aspirations of the Zionist movement, the Ottoman Empire opposed the idea of Jewish self-rule in Palestine, fearing it might lose control of Palestine after recently having lost other territories to various European powers. It also took issue with the Jews, as many came from Russia, which sought the empire's demise.[9] In 1881 the Ottoman governmental administration (the Sublime Porte) decreed that foreign Jews could immigrate to and settle anywhere within the Ottoman Empire, except in Palestine and from 1882 until their defeat in 1918, the Ottomans continuously restricted Jewish immigration and land purchases in Palestine.[9] In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens.[10] Nevertheless, during the late 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, many successful land purchases were made through organizations such as the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PJCA), Palestine Land Development Company and the Jewish National Fund.


Jewish rabbis purchasing land from an Arab landowner, 1920s.

The Ottoman Land Code of 1858 "brought about the appropriation by the influential and rich families of Beirut, Damascus, and to a lesser extent Jerusalem and Jaffa and other sub-district capitals, of vast tracts of land in Syria and Palestine and their registration in the name of these families in the land registers".[11]

Many of the fellahin did not understand the importance of the registers and therefore the wealthy families took advantage of this.[citation needed] Jewish buyers who were looking for large tracts of land found it favorable to purchase from the wealthy owners.[citation needed] As well many small farmers became in debt to rich families which led to the transfer of land to the new owners and then eventually to the Jewish buyers.[citation needed]

According to Palestinian-American anthropologist Nasser Abufarha, "In 1858 the Ottoman Authority introduced the law of tabu to fix rights of ownership of the land. Land owners were instructed to have their property inscribed in the land register. The tabu was resisted by the fellahin. They saw a threat to their community in registering their land for two main reasons: 1) the cultivated fields were classified as ardh ameriyeh (the land of the Emarit) and were taxed. Owners of registered fertile land were forced to pay tax on it; 2) data from the land register were used by the Turkish Army for the purpose of the draft. Owners of registered lands were often drafted to fight with the Turkish Army in Russia."[12]

In 1918, after the British conquest of Palestine, the military administration closed the Land Register and prohibited all sale of land. The Register was reopened in 1920, but to prevent speculation and ensure a livelihood for the fellahin, an edict was issued forbidding the sale of more than 300 dunams of land or the sale of land valued at more than 3000 Palestine pounds without the approval of the High Commissioner.[13]

From the 1880s to the 1930s, most Jewish land purchases were made in the coastal plain, the Jezreel Valley, the Jordan Valley and to a lesser extent the Galilee.[11] This was due to a preference for land that was cheap and without tenants.[11] There were two main reasons why these areas were sparsely populated. The first reason being when the Ottoman power in the rural areas began to diminish in the seventeenth century, many people moved to more centralized areas to secure protection against the Bedouin tribes.[11] The second reason for the sparsely populated areas of the coastal plains was the soil type. The soil, covered in a layer of sand, made it impossible to grow the staple crop of Palestine, corn.[11] As a result, this area remained uncultivated and underpopulated.[5] "The sparse Arab population in the areas where the Jews usually bought their land enabled the Jews to carry out their purchase without engendering a massive displacement and eviction of Arab tenants".[11]

In the 1930s, most of the land was bought from landowners. Of the land that the Jews bought, 52.6% were bought from non-Palestinian landowners, 24.6% from Palestinian landowners, 13.4% from government, churches, and foreign companies, and only 9.4% from fellaheen (farmers).[14]

On 31 December 1944, out of 1,732.63 dunums of land owned in Palestine by large Jewish Corporations and private owners, about 44% was in possession of Jewish National Fund. The table below shows the land ownership of Palestine by large Jewish Corporations (in square kilometres) on 31 December 1945.



(full article online)

You documented the purchase of 5% of the land prior to 1900 and then tiny purchase later… according to your source those purchases mostly came from people other than Palestinians.

They simply TOOK ALL THE REST
 
Learn history and stop boring ME !!!

Lack of interest is no excuse for being ignorant and you are ignorant on purpose.
LOL I do have interest in history. I also have a high regard to facts.

I get it. You are Jewish and so for you this is personal. I get that. I am sorry but facts are facts.

I know you won’t read this but here is a pretty balanced history of the ME.
 
Jews have been in Palestine for more than 3,000 years. They are not going anywhere, kids.
Exactly. They gotta come up with something better than what they do now. It's their responsibility to create a viable state for the Palestinians. It's long overdue thanks to the US who is complicit in the crimes against Palestinians
 
LOL yeah, sure. Once the Jews were kicked out, no one lived there.

Every single history you quote, seems to start from 1900s. And that too, with the Jews living in a tiny parcel of land.

What happened before 1900? What happened around them with the other land?
Not talking about 2000 years ago.
Imagine someone moving into your yard and raising hell and then someone else comes along and tells you they’re going to solve things by partitioning your property
Ignorance.

Arabs invaded the land in the 7th century. The Jews were always there, living with the Christians and Muslims.


You think in a very hollow way. If the Ottomans had not joined Germany in WWI, they would have still been an Empire.


The Allies who won WWI became the landlords of all of that land, and did with those lands, all four mandates, as they wished.


You are so empty about history of that land, at any time of history.
 

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